Rejecting the bad and accepting the good
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Cup, I know you views on Jews are far from orthodox, let alone correct, but it's a very hard thing for you to prove that the Pharisees and teachers of the Law were not zealous for God and the respected religious teachers of the day who preached God's Word (although some were hypocrites in doing so). As long as they preached Torah what's the problem? If you know your history, not all Pharisees were Jesus-murdering hypocrites.
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Of course they should be. But they already have been tested so they are trustworthy. What needs to be tested is people's interpretations of Paul's teachings. A good way to test is to compare what Paul said with what Christ said. One good example is losing salvation. Some say you cannot and quote Paul. But Jesus was not afraid to warn his own disciples of the dangers of hellfire, even saying that unless they forgave others, God would not forgive them, and that it was better to cut off their hand then end up in hell. Since Jesus and Paul cannot and did not disagree, we know that Paul must also have believed Christ's words that it was possible to be in danger of hellfire for unforgiveness, and other things. And Christ, being God, who is no respector of persons, spoke that to all listening, his disciples, the pharisees, and unbelievers present..,so yes it applies to us christians as well.
I guess how I believe is a little convaluted... perhaps the best way is by example. What I am saying is not that the daily missteps of the pastor are not to be forgiven the pastor by the congregation as he is forgiven by the Lord. What I'm speaking of is the Homosexual who decides to be a pastor & doesnt turn from this... The pastor who has an illegal grow operation... the willful disobedience to the law or God... Ok i';m kinda laughing here cause i was about to write the pastor who runs illegal guns.... & it struck me as funny... just as a pastor who's a homosexual should also strike me as ludicrus & funny but unfortunately its reality. I'm not speaking to the situation where a pastor hooked up with the piano player and had a tryst that he regreted. Now if he was running hookers i'd have an issue... hee hee again I'm laughing at the visual of my pastor running hookers. Pulling up in the ole ministry van to do the collecting on the strip... ROFL! ok I must be in a goofy mood. Everyone mis-steps and makes mistakes & in that there is forgiveness but the pastor has to hold himself to a higher standard and not lay with other men, run drugs, trade illegal guns using 6 year olds as mules. world missions from the avails of prostitution is not a worthy street ministry for pastors. Ok i need to go, i'm laughing too hard to type.
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They did not teach the law, that is the problem;
"Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees"
"Woe unto you scribes and Pharisees that sit in the seat of Moses, observe (watch) what they do, but DO NOT do after their works, for they speak yet do not, for they bind heavy burdens and grevious to be bourne and lay them on men shoulders but they themselves will not move them with one finger." Mat 23:2-4
Jesus says watch these hypocrites and oppressors of men they do not do as they say, do not follow their works.
If you think that the Pharisees preached the word and the law of God, then you have no comprehension of Christianity.
Here is someone who will defend the Pharisees even when I quote the words of Jesus, you know one like this would have in time of the Lord would have been amongst His accusers and unable to recognize God even when He stood before him.
Once again 'Snail you are grossly in error. You reject the good and accept the bad.
"Beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees"
"Woe unto you scribes and Pharisees that sit in the seat of Moses, observe (watch) what they do, but DO NOT do after their works, for they speak yet do not, for they bind heavy burdens and grevious to be bourne and lay them on men shoulders but they themselves will not move them with one finger." Mat 23:2-4
Jesus says watch these hypocrites and oppressors of men they do not do as they say, do not follow their works.
If you think that the Pharisees preached the word and the law of God, then you have no comprehension of Christianity.
Here is someone who will defend the Pharisees even when I quote the words of Jesus, you know one like this would have in time of the Lord would have been amongst His accusers and unable to recognize God even when He stood before him.
Once again 'Snail you are grossly in error. You reject the good and accept the bad.
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come to the conclusion it wasnt that funny. apologies. Seriously though I spent my dinner prep pondering the righteousness of pastors vs the righteousness of moss. Why should they have to be better than me? Suppose cause they are in authority is why I think this way.. not that that makes it right, its just how I feel about it... the ones who mentor us are ones we look up to... should be ones like you Shad.
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There is only one person that lived as we have lived that never knew sin and He is the one we are to look to and be occupied with and put before our face. He is the one that we put between us so that when we look at one another all we see is Christ. The pastor puts Christ between him and every member of the assembly, likewise each member does the same with their pastor and with one another. We do that in our families and with our brothers and sisters. This is part of Christ being all in all in our life. Paul said be ye imitators of me as I am of Christ and for me to live is Christ. So should it be with us. We are in Christ's stead and ambassadors for Christ. Everything that we do and say should minister grace, edify and reveal Christ, even the gospel we preach to a lost world of sinners.
Acts 17:28 a 'For in him we live, and move, and have our being'...
Acts 17:28 a 'For in him we live, and move, and have our being'...
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1 Tim 5:17Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honor, especially those who labor in the Word and doctrine.
18For the Scripture saith, "Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn," and, "The laborer is worthy of his reward."
19Against an elder receive not an accusation, except before two or three witnesses.
20Those who sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
18For the Scripture saith, "Thou shalt not muzzle the ox that treadeth out the corn," and, "The laborer is worthy of his reward."
19Against an elder receive not an accusation, except before two or three witnesses.
20Those who sin rebuke before all, that others also may fear.
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If you are applying the instruction of rebuking the elder who is being accused in verse 20, that is a misapplication. Verse 20 should be applied to the one who is bringing the accusation against the elder. Paul instructs Timothy in this passage based on Deut 19:15-20.
15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
16 If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong;
17 Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days;
18 And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;
19 Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.
20 And those which remain shall hear, and fear, and shall henceforth commit no more any such evil among you.
I could say plenty about this but I am only going to say a couple of things. Deut 19:16-18 is talking about a false witness which could be only (1) witness who has no other witness to corroborate the accusation being made against another. You need at least two witnesses / verse 15, so one is not enough. If only one witness testifies it will be considered a false witness. (Not too kosher). If two or three witnesses bring an accusation and one of them is a hearsay witness, (who was told by another), that will be considered a false witness when the judges make an inquisition and find that the witness was not an eye witness but only a hearsay witness and have to throw it out, leaving only one witness that would also have to be rejected.
So to bring an accusation you have to have two or three eye witnesses or you have no case. I'll give you another example. If a woman was brought to the judges and she admitted committing adultery with a man, she would be considered only one witness. If the man who she accused of having committed adultery denied her claim and there was no other eye witness, her witness would only be one witness and the case could not be heard because the testimony has to be established in the mouth of two or three witnesses. Our justice system has no such standard when accusing another.
Don't be so quick to use 1Tim 5:20 to rebuke an elder (presbuteros). I wonder just how many cases that have been made against an elder in the days of the church that we live, that deal with accusations in the manner described. Notice the conclusions in verse 20 of each passage having to do with fear. That's all I will say for now.
15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.
16 If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong;
17 Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days;
18 And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;
19 Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.
20 And those which remain shall hear, and fear, and shall henceforth commit no more any such evil among you.
I could say plenty about this but I am only going to say a couple of things. Deut 19:16-18 is talking about a false witness which could be only (1) witness who has no other witness to corroborate the accusation being made against another. You need at least two witnesses / verse 15, so one is not enough. If only one witness testifies it will be considered a false witness. (Not too kosher). If two or three witnesses bring an accusation and one of them is a hearsay witness, (who was told by another), that will be considered a false witness when the judges make an inquisition and find that the witness was not an eye witness but only a hearsay witness and have to throw it out, leaving only one witness that would also have to be rejected.
So to bring an accusation you have to have two or three eye witnesses or you have no case. I'll give you another example. If a woman was brought to the judges and she admitted committing adultery with a man, she would be considered only one witness. If the man who she accused of having committed adultery denied her claim and there was no other eye witness, her witness would only be one witness and the case could not be heard because the testimony has to be established in the mouth of two or three witnesses. Our justice system has no such standard when accusing another.
Don't be so quick to use 1Tim 5:20 to rebuke an elder (presbuteros). I wonder just how many cases that have been made against an elder in the days of the church that we live, that deal with accusations in the manner described. Notice the conclusions in verse 20 of each passage having to do with fear. That's all I will say for now.
Peace be to you
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
Men of God aften take on the form of other pastors,preach in all churches,we do this to convert followers and gather Gods children.God talks to people threw whoever he wants.Many speak to angels not even knowing it.
I have attended many churchs,I listen and pray my own prayers.Watching a child learn to pray by the spirit is amazing.I wish I was cool like God
Love a friend in God
Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.
Men of God aften take on the form of other pastors,preach in all churches,we do this to convert followers and gather Gods children.God talks to people threw whoever he wants.Many speak to angels not even knowing it.
I have attended many churchs,I listen and pray my own prayers.Watching a child learn to pray by the spirit is amazing.I wish I was cool like God
Love a friend in God
Peace be to you
There is there elderly woman near where I live,We were speaking about God,I asked her if she believes in God she said everyone knows theres only one God,What I hate she said is that everyone in the world with a formed reigion thinks the only way to get to him is threw there religion.I said very true.The truth is God is always here and the relationship you have with him is between you and him.So many attend church and think as soon as they leave God's not there,If you Love God church is just a meeting place where you can share company and good tidings between others sharing the same love/faith and morals as you.
Church is more for the people who dont believe to bring them to faith by the hearing of the word,for God found it funny that salvation should be attained threw the preaching of the gospel.
In the many churchs I have attended I have often heard the exact same msg being told in the sermons on the same day.To me there is only one church that is the church of God that not only resides on earth but is also in heaven.The same church Jesus and the apostals belong too.We men of God belong to this church and it will last forevermore.
I Hope imoss many Jehovas witness make it,I dont have a problem with there actions.I dont hold lack of understanding against them and pray for them much knowing God's children are amoung them,As I do for the many others that they should return.Looking to the only one true God "I Am" for all Hope
One more thing revelations speaks of problems with the churchs.I pray they repent
Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
One thing about Jesus,He loves God soooo much, his first love and mine God almightly
Giving thanks to God for are shining example ;Jesus christ
Love and peace be to you
There is there elderly woman near where I live,We were speaking about God,I asked her if she believes in God she said everyone knows theres only one God,What I hate she said is that everyone in the world with a formed reigion thinks the only way to get to him is threw there religion.I said very true.The truth is God is always here and the relationship you have with him is between you and him.So many attend church and think as soon as they leave God's not there,If you Love God church is just a meeting place where you can share company and good tidings between others sharing the same love/faith and morals as you.
Church is more for the people who dont believe to bring them to faith by the hearing of the word,for God found it funny that salvation should be attained threw the preaching of the gospel.
In the many churchs I have attended I have often heard the exact same msg being told in the sermons on the same day.To me there is only one church that is the church of God that not only resides on earth but is also in heaven.The same church Jesus and the apostals belong too.We men of God belong to this church and it will last forevermore.
I Hope imoss many Jehovas witness make it,I dont have a problem with there actions.I dont hold lack of understanding against them and pray for them much knowing God's children are amoung them,As I do for the many others that they should return.Looking to the only one true God "I Am" for all Hope
One more thing revelations speaks of problems with the churchs.I pray they repent
Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
One thing about Jesus,He loves God soooo much, his first love and mine God almightly
Giving thanks to God for are shining example ;Jesus christ
Love and peace be to you
Peace be to you
There is there elderly woman near where I live,We were speaking about God,I asked her if she believes in God she said everyone knows theres only one God,What I hate she said is that everyone in the world with a formed reigion thinks the only way to get to him is threw there religion.I said very true.The truth is God is always here and the relationship you have with him is between you and him.So many attend church and think as soon as they leave God's not there,If you Love God church is just a meeting place where you can share company and good tidings between others sharing the same love/faith and morals as you.
Church is more for the people who dont believe to bring them to faith by the hearing of the word,for God found it funny that salvation should be attained threw the preaching of the gospel.
In the many churchs I have attended I have often heard the exact same msg being told in the sermons on the same day.To me there is only one church that is the church of God that not only resides on earth but is also in heaven.The same church Jesus and the apostals belong too.We men of God belong to this church and it will last forevermore.
I Hope imoss many Jehovas witness make it,I dont have a problem with there actions.I dont hold lack of understanding against them and pray for them much knowing God's children are amoung them,As I do for the many others that they should return.Looking to the only one true God "I Am" for all Hope
One more thing revelations speaks of problems with the churchs.I pray they repent
Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
One thing about Jesus,He loves God soooo much, his first love and mine God almightly
Giving thanks to God for are shining example ;Jesus christ
Love and peace be to you
There is there elderly woman near where I live,We were speaking about God,I asked her if she believes in God she said everyone knows theres only one God,What I hate she said is that everyone in the world with a formed reigion thinks the only way to get to him is threw there religion.I said very true.The truth is God is always here and the relationship you have with him is between you and him.So many attend church and think as soon as they leave God's not there,If you Love God church is just a meeting place where you can share company and good tidings between others sharing the same love/faith and morals as you.
Church is more for the people who dont believe to bring them to faith by the hearing of the word,for God found it funny that salvation should be attained threw the preaching of the gospel.
In the many churchs I have attended I have often heard the exact same msg being told in the sermons on the same day.To me there is only one church that is the church of God that not only resides on earth but is also in heaven.The same church Jesus and the apostals belong too.We men of God belong to this church and it will last forevermore.
I Hope imoss many Jehovas witness make it,I dont have a problem with there actions.I dont hold lack of understanding against them and pray for them much knowing God's children are amoung them,As I do for the many others that they should return.Looking to the only one true God "I Am" for all Hope
One more thing revelations speaks of problems with the churchs.I pray they repent
Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
One thing about Jesus,He loves God soooo much, his first love and mine God almightly
Giving thanks to God for are shining example ;Jesus christ
Love and peace be to you
I absolutely want their salvation, I suppose I just miss her as she's not allowed to attend any of our family gatherings.
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Peace be to you
There is there elderly woman near where I live,We were speaking about God,I asked her if she believes in God she said everyone knows theres only one God,What I hate she said is that everyone in the world with a formed reigion thinks the only way to get to him is threw there religion.I said very true.The truth is God is always here and the relationship you have with him is between you and him.So many attend church and think as soon as they leave God's not there,If you Love God church is just a meeting place where you can share company and good tidings between others sharing the same love/faith and morals as you.
Church is more for the people who dont believe to bring them to faith by the hearing of the word,for God found it funny that salvation should be attained threw the preaching of the gospel.
In the many churchs I have attended I have often heard the exact same msg being told in the sermons on the same day.To me there is only one church that is the church of God that not only resides on earth but is also in heaven.The same church Jesus and the apostals belong too.We men of God belong to this church and it will last forevermore.
I Hope imoss many Jehovas witness make it,I dont have a problem with there actions.I dont hold lack of understanding against them and pray for them much knowing God's children are amoung them,As I do for the many others that they should return.Looking to the only one true God "I Am" for all Hope
One more thing revelations speaks of problems with the churchs.I pray they repent
Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
One thing about Jesus,He loves God soooo much, his first love and mine God almightly
Giving thanks to God for are shining example ;Jesus christ
Love and peace be to you
There is there elderly woman near where I live,We were speaking about God,I asked her if she believes in God she said everyone knows theres only one God,What I hate she said is that everyone in the world with a formed reigion thinks the only way to get to him is threw there religion.I said very true.The truth is God is always here and the relationship you have with him is between you and him.So many attend church and think as soon as they leave God's not there,If you Love God church is just a meeting place where you can share company and good tidings between others sharing the same love/faith and morals as you.
Church is more for the people who dont believe to bring them to faith by the hearing of the word,for God found it funny that salvation should be attained threw the preaching of the gospel.
In the many churchs I have attended I have often heard the exact same msg being told in the sermons on the same day.To me there is only one church that is the church of God that not only resides on earth but is also in heaven.The same church Jesus and the apostals belong too.We men of God belong to this church and it will last forevermore.
I Hope imoss many Jehovas witness make it,I dont have a problem with there actions.I dont hold lack of understanding against them and pray for them much knowing God's children are amoung them,As I do for the many others that they should return.Looking to the only one true God "I Am" for all Hope
One more thing revelations speaks of problems with the churchs.I pray they repent
Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.Nevertheless I have somewhat against thee, because thou hast left thy first love.
One thing about Jesus,He loves God soooo much, his first love and mine God almightly
Giving thanks to God for are shining example ;Jesus christ
Love and peace be to you
Maybe you need to be refreshed a little.
2Jn 1:7-11
7 For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8 Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
10 If there come any unto you, and bring not this doctrine, receive him not into your house, neither bid him God speed:
11 For he that biddeth him God speed is partaker of his evil deeds.
Do you know that because they abide in false doctrine that they are a transgressor? They are a transgressor because they go beyond the limits of sound doctrine. If they come to your home, with the intent to spread their false doctrine, we are not to receive them into our house nor bid them God speed. We are not to extend any greeting unto them nor show them hospitality. If we bid them God speed we become a partaker and sharer of the intent and actions of their evil deeds. Some balance here. If you have a relative or neighbor, who is a JW, that you invite to your home for some kind of social or honor, they should understand that they are not permitted to speak of their doctrine. If they do not honor that request, you should escort them out of your home and never invite them again. If they come to you searching for the truth, we should give them the truth based on the terms of sound doctrine with no reservations or respect for any false doctrine. Sounds a little cold and unloving, but it is the right thing to do because it honors God, His word, His plan of salvation through Christ and it keeps us from giving place to the devil and any doctrines of demons. Do you have a problem with JWs, you should because they represent another Christ and another Spirit which are not God.
Peace be to you
The first historical attempt at blood transfusion was described by the 15th-century chronicler Stefano Infessura. Infessura relates that, in 1492, as Pope Innocent VIII sank into a coma, the blood of three boys was infused into the dying pontiff (through the mouth, as the concept of circulation and methods for intravenous access did not exist at that time) at the suggestion of a physician. The boys were ten years old, and had been promised a ducat each. However, not only did the pope die, but so did the three children. Some authors have discredited Infessura's account, accusing him of anti-papalism.[1]
World War II syringe for direct interhuman blood transfusion
Beginning with Harvey's experiments with circulation of the blood, more sophisticated research into blood transfusion began in the 17th century, with successful experiments in transfusion between animals. However, successive attempts on humans continued to have fatal results.
The first fully documented human blood transfusion was administered by Dr. Jean-Baptiste Denys, eminent physician to King Louis XIV of France, on June 15, 1667.[2] He transfused the blood of a sheep into a 15-year old boy, who survived the transfusion.[3] Denys performed another transfusion into a labourer, who also survived. Both instances were likely due to the small amount of blood that was actually transfused into these people. This allowed them to withstand the allergic reaction. Denys' third patient to undergo a blood transfusion was Swedish Baron Bonde. He received two transfusions. After the second transfusion Bonde died.[4] In the winter of 1667, Denys performed several transfusions on Antoine Mauroy with calf's blood, who on the third account died.[5] Much controversy surrounded his death. Mauroy's wife asserted Denys was responsible for her husband's death. But Mauroy's wife was accused of causing his death. Though it was later determined that Mauroy actually died from arsenic poisoning, Denys' experiments with animal blood provoked a heated controversy in France.[4] Finally, in 1670 the procedure was banned. In time, the British Parliament and even the pope followed suit. Blood transfusions fell into obscurity for the next 150 years.
Successfull ones;
The science of blood transfusion dates to the first decade of the 19th century, with the discovery of distinct blood types leading to the practice of mixing some blood from the donor and the receiver before the transfusion (an early form of cross-matching).
In 1818, Dr. James Blundell, a British obstetrician, performed the first successful blood transfusion of human blood, for the treatment of postpartum hemorrhage. He used the patient's husband as a donor, and extracted four ounces of blood from his arm to transfuse into his wife. During the years 1825 and 1830, Dr. Blundell performed 10 transfusions, five of which were beneficial, and published his results. He also invented many instruments for the transfusion of blood. He made a substantial amount of money from this endeavour, roughly $50 million (about $2 million in 1827) real dollars (adjusted for inflation).[citation needed]
In 1840, at St George's Hospital Medical School in London, Samuel Armstrong Lane, aided by Dr. Blundell, performed the first successful whole blood transfusion to treat hemophilia.
George Washington Crile is credited with performing the first surgery using a direct blood transfusion at the Cleveland Clinic.
Many patients had died and it was not until 1901, when the Austrian Karl Landsteiner discovered human blood groups, that blood transfusions became safer. Mixing blood from two individuals can lead to blood clumping or agglutination. The clumped red cells can crack and cause toxic reactions, which can have fatal consequences. Karl Landsteiner discovered that blood clumping was an immunological reaction which occurs when the receiver of a blood transfusion has antibodies (A, B, both A & B, or neither) against the donor blood cells. Karl Landsteiner's work made it possible to determine blood groups (A, B, AB, O) and thus paved the way for blood transfusions to be carried out safely. For this discovery he was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1930.
Blood transfusion are very new to the world,Everyone has the right to refuse them.In fact in many countrys I would advise against them.Many people have died from them.Hep c,aids ect ect are passed threw the blood
Far as I know they believe Jesus is the son of God,He came in the flesh and is exalted on the right hand of God.They pass the test we are to give them
Love a friend in God
The first historical attempt at blood transfusion was described by the 15th-century chronicler Stefano Infessura. Infessura relates that, in 1492, as Pope Innocent VIII sank into a coma, the blood of three boys was infused into the dying pontiff (through the mouth, as the concept of circulation and methods for intravenous access did not exist at that time) at the suggestion of a physician. The boys were ten years old, and had been promised a ducat each. However, not only did the pope die, but so did the three children. Some authors have discredited Infessura's account, accusing him of anti-papalism.[1]
World War II syringe for direct interhuman blood transfusion
Beginning with Harvey's experiments with circulation of the blood, more sophisticated research into blood transfusion began in the 17th century, with successful experiments in transfusion between animals. However, successive attempts on humans continued to have fatal results.
The first fully documented human blood transfusion was administered by Dr. Jean-Baptiste Denys, eminent physician to King Louis XIV of France, on June 15, 1667.[2] He transfused the blood of a sheep into a 15-year old boy, who survived the transfusion.[3] Denys performed another transfusion into a labourer, who also survived. Both instances were likely due to the small amount of blood that was actually transfused into these people. This allowed them to withstand the allergic reaction. Denys' third patient to undergo a blood transfusion was Swedish Baron Bonde. He received two transfusions. After the second transfusion Bonde died.[4] In the winter of 1667, Denys performed several transfusions on Antoine Mauroy with calf's blood, who on the third account died.[5] Much controversy surrounded his death. Mauroy's wife asserted Denys was responsible for her husband's death. But Mauroy's wife was accused of causing his death. Though it was later determined that Mauroy actually died from arsenic poisoning, Denys' experiments with animal blood provoked a heated controversy in France.[4] Finally, in 1670 the procedure was banned. In time, the British Parliament and even the pope followed suit. Blood transfusions fell into obscurity for the next 150 years.
Successfull ones;
The science of blood transfusion dates to the first decade of the 19th century, with the discovery of distinct blood types leading to the practice of mixing some blood from the donor and the receiver before the transfusion (an early form of cross-matching).
In 1818, Dr. James Blundell, a British obstetrician, performed the first successful blood transfusion of human blood, for the treatment of postpartum hemorrhage. He used the patient's husband as a donor, and extracted four ounces of blood from his arm to transfuse into his wife. During the years 1825 and 1830, Dr. Blundell performed 10 transfusions, five of which were beneficial, and published his results. He also invented many instruments for the transfusion of blood. He made a substantial amount of money from this endeavour, roughly $50 million (about $2 million in 1827) real dollars (adjusted for inflation).[citation needed]
In 1840, at St George's Hospital Medical School in London, Samuel Armstrong Lane, aided by Dr. Blundell, performed the first successful whole blood transfusion to treat hemophilia.
George Washington Crile is credited with performing the first surgery using a direct blood transfusion at the Cleveland Clinic.
Many patients had died and it was not until 1901, when the Austrian Karl Landsteiner discovered human blood groups, that blood transfusions became safer. Mixing blood from two individuals can lead to blood clumping or agglutination. The clumped red cells can crack and cause toxic reactions, which can have fatal consequences. Karl Landsteiner discovered that blood clumping was an immunological reaction which occurs when the receiver of a blood transfusion has antibodies (A, B, both A & B, or neither) against the donor blood cells. Karl Landsteiner's work made it possible to determine blood groups (A, B, AB, O) and thus paved the way for blood transfusions to be carried out safely. For this discovery he was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1930.
Blood transfusion are very new to the world,Everyone has the right to refuse them.In fact in many countrys I would advise against them.Many people have died from them.Hep c,aids ect ect are passed threw the blood
Far as I know they believe Jesus is the son of God,He came in the flesh and is exalted on the right hand of God.They pass the test we are to give them
Love a friend in God
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Peace be to you
The first historical attempt at blood transfusion was described by the 15th-century chronicler Stefano Infessura. Infessura relates that, in 1492, as Pope Innocent VIII sank into a coma, the blood of three boys was infused into the dying pontiff (through the mouth, as the concept of circulation and methods for intravenous access did not exist at that time) at the suggestion of a physician. The boys were ten years old, and had been promised a ducat each. However, not only did the pope die, but so did the three children. Some authors have discredited Infessura's account, accusing him of anti-papalism.[1]
World War II syringe for direct interhuman blood transfusion
Beginning with Harvey's experiments with circulation of the blood, more sophisticated research into blood transfusion began in the 17th century, with successful experiments in transfusion between animals. However, successive attempts on humans continued to have fatal results.
The first fully documented human blood transfusion was administered by Dr. Jean-Baptiste Denys, eminent physician to King Louis XIV of France, on June 15, 1667.[2] He transfused the blood of a sheep into a 15-year old boy, who survived the transfusion.[3] Denys performed another transfusion into a labourer, who also survived. Both instances were likely due to the small amount of blood that was actually transfused into these people. This allowed them to withstand the allergic reaction. Denys' third patient to undergo a blood transfusion was Swedish Baron Bonde. He received two transfusions. After the second transfusion Bonde died.[4] In the winter of 1667, Denys performed several transfusions on Antoine Mauroy with calf's blood, who on the third account died.[5] Much controversy surrounded his death. Mauroy's wife asserted Denys was responsible for her husband's death. But Mauroy's wife was accused of causing his death. Though it was later determined that Mauroy actually died from arsenic poisoning, Denys' experiments with animal blood provoked a heated controversy in France.[4] Finally, in 1670 the procedure was banned. In time, the British Parliament and even the pope followed suit. Blood transfusions fell into obscurity for the next 150 years.
Successfull ones;
The science of blood transfusion dates to the first decade of the 19th century, with the discovery of distinct blood types leading to the practice of mixing some blood from the donor and the receiver before the transfusion (an early form of cross-matching).
In 1818, Dr. James Blundell, a British obstetrician, performed the first successful blood transfusion of human blood, for the treatment of postpartum hemorrhage. He used the patient's husband as a donor, and extracted four ounces of blood from his arm to transfuse into his wife. During the years 1825 and 1830, Dr. Blundell performed 10 transfusions, five of which were beneficial, and published his results. He also invented many instruments for the transfusion of blood. He made a substantial amount of money from this endeavour, roughly $50 million (about $2 million in 1827) real dollars (adjusted for inflation).[citation needed]
In 1840, at St George's Hospital Medical School in London, Samuel Armstrong Lane, aided by Dr. Blundell, performed the first successful whole blood transfusion to treat hemophilia.
George Washington Crile is credited with performing the first surgery using a direct blood transfusion at the Cleveland Clinic.
Many patients had died and it was not until 1901, when the Austrian Karl Landsteiner discovered human blood groups, that blood transfusions became safer. Mixing blood from two individuals can lead to blood clumping or agglutination. The clumped red cells can crack and cause toxic reactions, which can have fatal consequences. Karl Landsteiner discovered that blood clumping was an immunological reaction which occurs when the receiver of a blood transfusion has antibodies (A, B, both A & B, or neither) against the donor blood cells. Karl Landsteiner's work made it possible to determine blood groups (A, B, AB, O) and thus paved the way for blood transfusions to be carried out safely. For this discovery he was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1930.
Blood transfusion are very new to the world,Everyone has the right to refuse them.In fact in many countrys I would advise against them.Many people have died from them.Hep c,aids ect ect are passed threw the blood
Far as I know they believe Jesus is the son of God,He came in the flesh and is exalted on the right hand of God.They pass the test we are to give them
Love a friend in God
The first historical attempt at blood transfusion was described by the 15th-century chronicler Stefano Infessura. Infessura relates that, in 1492, as Pope Innocent VIII sank into a coma, the blood of three boys was infused into the dying pontiff (through the mouth, as the concept of circulation and methods for intravenous access did not exist at that time) at the suggestion of a physician. The boys were ten years old, and had been promised a ducat each. However, not only did the pope die, but so did the three children. Some authors have discredited Infessura's account, accusing him of anti-papalism.[1]
World War II syringe for direct interhuman blood transfusion
Beginning with Harvey's experiments with circulation of the blood, more sophisticated research into blood transfusion began in the 17th century, with successful experiments in transfusion between animals. However, successive attempts on humans continued to have fatal results.
The first fully documented human blood transfusion was administered by Dr. Jean-Baptiste Denys, eminent physician to King Louis XIV of France, on June 15, 1667.[2] He transfused the blood of a sheep into a 15-year old boy, who survived the transfusion.[3] Denys performed another transfusion into a labourer, who also survived. Both instances were likely due to the small amount of blood that was actually transfused into these people. This allowed them to withstand the allergic reaction. Denys' third patient to undergo a blood transfusion was Swedish Baron Bonde. He received two transfusions. After the second transfusion Bonde died.[4] In the winter of 1667, Denys performed several transfusions on Antoine Mauroy with calf's blood, who on the third account died.[5] Much controversy surrounded his death. Mauroy's wife asserted Denys was responsible for her husband's death. But Mauroy's wife was accused of causing his death. Though it was later determined that Mauroy actually died from arsenic poisoning, Denys' experiments with animal blood provoked a heated controversy in France.[4] Finally, in 1670 the procedure was banned. In time, the British Parliament and even the pope followed suit. Blood transfusions fell into obscurity for the next 150 years.
Successfull ones;
The science of blood transfusion dates to the first decade of the 19th century, with the discovery of distinct blood types leading to the practice of mixing some blood from the donor and the receiver before the transfusion (an early form of cross-matching).
In 1818, Dr. James Blundell, a British obstetrician, performed the first successful blood transfusion of human blood, for the treatment of postpartum hemorrhage. He used the patient's husband as a donor, and extracted four ounces of blood from his arm to transfuse into his wife. During the years 1825 and 1830, Dr. Blundell performed 10 transfusions, five of which were beneficial, and published his results. He also invented many instruments for the transfusion of blood. He made a substantial amount of money from this endeavour, roughly $50 million (about $2 million in 1827) real dollars (adjusted for inflation).[citation needed]
In 1840, at St George's Hospital Medical School in London, Samuel Armstrong Lane, aided by Dr. Blundell, performed the first successful whole blood transfusion to treat hemophilia.
George Washington Crile is credited with performing the first surgery using a direct blood transfusion at the Cleveland Clinic.
Many patients had died and it was not until 1901, when the Austrian Karl Landsteiner discovered human blood groups, that blood transfusions became safer. Mixing blood from two individuals can lead to blood clumping or agglutination. The clumped red cells can crack and cause toxic reactions, which can have fatal consequences. Karl Landsteiner discovered that blood clumping was an immunological reaction which occurs when the receiver of a blood transfusion has antibodies (A, B, both A & B, or neither) against the donor blood cells. Karl Landsteiner's work made it possible to determine blood groups (A, B, AB, O) and thus paved the way for blood transfusions to be carried out safely. For this discovery he was awarded the Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine in 1930.
Blood transfusion are very new to the world,Everyone has the right to refuse them.In fact in many countrys I would advise against them.Many people have died from them.Hep c,aids ect ect are passed threw the blood
Far as I know they believe Jesus is the son of God,He came in the flesh and is exalted on the right hand of God.They pass the test we are to give them
Love a friend in God