Reproving the world of sin
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Okay thanks for clarifying that, just so you know also I didnt even know what OSAS even stood for for a decade and even then when someone told me I never knew what the actual doctrine was because I dont dig into these type of things. By that I mean these "catch phrase" doctrine type things that blow through chriistianity (or the various sects of protestantism) so I dont really look into these things (or often care to). I stated this before as well
This was archived at CC (as it looks different) but this is a post by me (under the username DesiredHaven) in May 2015
And listen you are always forgiven I dont hold it against you but lots of folks assume you are all into their stuff and I step back from it, but even if I do my freinds might not, and I cant avoid every thread however if something seems off I try very hard to present my case using scripture when I see a problem and try not to take so much of an angle but shoot straight with them.
I might seem unbending at times but if you have I am of Fred and I am of Bill and I am of Scott (all coming in from their little angles) you have to pay attention that you dont take one up too, I try not to. So Scott will likely hate me and Bill and Fred but Im not into wanting to make freinds with them anyway.
But it has nothing to do with hating Fred and his stuff, or the other guys its what is on the table at the time and being honest with it. Not striving and paying attention to my vertical relationship first as it pertains to these things.
Thats all.
And we might not agree on things, and if the scriptures I post are at fault point that out. I try to let those speak more then myself (and obviously there are exceptions) this thread being one of them) But I wont hunt someone down if I dont, I gravitate to those who I agree more with sure. I post scripture to something and try to remain nuetral for the most part (not involving myself with folks who speak from themselves too much or who are a walking snark fest or or who explode emotionally all over the threads) I think that ruins the hearer to Jesus Christ.
God bless
This was archived at CC (as it looks different) but this is a post by me (under the username DesiredHaven) in May 2015
And listen you are always forgiven I dont hold it against you but lots of folks assume you are all into their stuff and I step back from it, but even if I do my freinds might not, and I cant avoid every thread however if something seems off I try very hard to present my case using scripture when I see a problem and try not to take so much of an angle but shoot straight with them.
I might seem unbending at times but if you have I am of Fred and I am of Bill and I am of Scott (all coming in from their little angles) you have to pay attention that you dont take one up too, I try not to. So Scott will likely hate me and Bill and Fred but Im not into wanting to make freinds with them anyway.
But it has nothing to do with hating Fred and his stuff, or the other guys its what is on the table at the time and being honest with it. Not striving and paying attention to my vertical relationship first as it pertains to these things.
Thats all.
And we might not agree on things, and if the scriptures I post are at fault point that out. I try to let those speak more then myself (and obviously there are exceptions) this thread being one of them) But I wont hunt someone down if I dont, I gravitate to those who I agree more with sure. I post scripture to something and try to remain nuetral for the most part (not involving myself with folks who speak from themselves too much or who are a walking snark fest or or who explode emotionally all over the threads) I think that ruins the hearer to Jesus Christ.
God bless
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Okay thanks for clarifying that, just so you know also I didnt even know what OSAS even stood for for a decade and even then when someone told me I never knew what the actual doctrine was because I dont dig into these type of things. By that I mean these "catch phrase" doctrine type things that blow through chriistianity (or the various sects of protestantism) so I dont really look into these things (or often care to). I stated this before as well
This was archived at CC (as it looks different) but this is a post by me (under the username DesiredHaven) in May 2015
And listen you are always forgiven I dont hold it against you but lots of folks assume you are all into their stuff and I step back from it, but even if I do my freinds might not, and I cant avoid every thread however if something seems off I try very hard to present my case using scripture when I see a problem and try not to take so much of an angle but shoot straight with them.
I might seem unbending at times but if you have I am of Fred and I am of Bill and I am of Scott (all coming in from their little angles) you have to pay attention that you dont take one up too, I try not to. So Scott will likely hate me and Bill and Fred but Im not into wanting to make freinds with them anyway.
But it has nothing to do with hating Fred and his stuff, or the other guys its what is on the table at the time and being honest with it. Not striving and paying attention to my vertical relationship first as it pertains to these things.
Thats all.
And we might not agree on things, and if the scriptures I post are at fault point that out. I try to let those speak more then myself (and obviously there are exceptions) this thread being one of them) But I wont hunt someone down if I dont, I gravitate to those who I agree more with sure. I post scripture to something and try to remain nuetral for the most part (not involving myself with folks who speak from themselves too much or who are a walking snark fest or or who explode emotionally all over the threads) I think that ruins the hearer to Jesus Christ.
God bless
This was archived at CC (as it looks different) but this is a post by me (under the username DesiredHaven) in May 2015
And listen you are always forgiven I dont hold it against you but lots of folks assume you are all into their stuff and I step back from it, but even if I do my freinds might not, and I cant avoid every thread however if something seems off I try very hard to present my case using scripture when I see a problem and try not to take so much of an angle but shoot straight with them.
I might seem unbending at times but if you have I am of Fred and I am of Bill and I am of Scott (all coming in from their little angles) you have to pay attention that you dont take one up too, I try not to. So Scott will likely hate me and Bill and Fred but Im not into wanting to make freinds with them anyway.
But it has nothing to do with hating Fred and his stuff, or the other guys its what is on the table at the time and being honest with it. Not striving and paying attention to my vertical relationship first as it pertains to these things.
Thats all.
And we might not agree on things, and if the scriptures I post are at fault point that out. I try to let those speak more then myself (and obviously there are exceptions) this thread being one of them) But I wont hunt someone down if I dont, I gravitate to those who I agree more with sure. I post scripture to something and try to remain nuetral for the most part (not involving myself with folks who speak from themselves too much or who are a walking snark fest or or who explode emotionally all over the threads) I think that ruins the hearer to Jesus Christ.
God bless
LOL
This part for now
Besides spending all last night and all today trying to find your accusations in the previous things (and finding none) now that comment. Since its July I thought it good to show at the end of May (which was just a couple months ago ) that I did not even know what hyper grace even was. I also didnt even know who follows this hypergrace doctrine (as there is no list of people for me to refer to this sect) I never even listened to this Mr Prince fella (I began to think I joined his website) like it was this secret group who call themselves WE that pile on you (and who are secretly promoting his stuff, doctrine/books/vdeos) which I have not heard bought or watched (and neither do I want to).
Now if I just said that you might want to call me a liar (and there we go again) and just so I can copy proof i adressed this (before the thread disapears) I want to post it so as to have THAT in my possession (for future reference) as I do those things on threads that disapear. But if I didnt provide the evidence you would just run at the mouth as you do. So I spent the evening doing the most vainest things collecting these things to refer to, since one accusation typically leads into another (even as the goal posts move also).
And to post these things (on my part) is absolutely stupid (I know) but i study and collect things on this type of thing
Date is the end of May here
I am behind CS1 asking HRFTD a question on whatever this hyer grace thing is
I myself dont even know what it is but I respond to CS1 first
Then I touch down on HRFTD's post here as well.
Hey look who likes that nuetral comment, not only that JGIG wrote a whole thing for me (since I didnt know that is too long to post) but responds here and me to her
Notice how I dont know who WE is I didnt know who that was on another OP also when I spoke to this elsewhere. I never heard of this thing or the man you follow and not interested in fact most the posters the seem to be on the threads (which I dont recall ever seeing you on them) are on ignore and have been for a while
See?
But WHO the WE are shouldnt matter one ioda, but sharing the truth according to the scriptures in a bible discussion forum.
(Note: not all are shown in that screen shot who are on ignore) just stating they have been told and from the time I didnt know what it was until now I have remained nuetral) but staying to the point and off the man
But to continue (keeping in mind that just 2 months ago I had no clue to what this thing was) I am supposedly blasting this group of WE (of persons I do not even know) save the obvious two (who I have on ignore)
Last two here
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That was May ^above ^(so let that be where my knowledge grew a little of this sect be marked)
as I didnt know anything of it in all my 25 years in Christ, I cant keep up with the sects and I try to avoid learning of many of these TV preachers and their doctrines (so I wouldnt know).
And because Its July here in the next post (a hyper grace thread) where all I did was offer my observations (see my next post after)
Im guessing, by observing the issue of grace itself (others see as Gods grace) in this hyper deal whereas I am saying that maybe Gods grace isnt the perceived enemy (from the other side of things) as I dont know I dont sit under this other mans doctrine. So I can only state that maybe "the enemy" (as it may be perceived) isnt really an enemy of Gods grace but whatever is this hyper grace deal by this man (who I dont learn from). I try to stay away from glorying in men its divisive (we are of, we are of, we are of) because they become offended in his things and all that.
You would have to read in between, the other snark as usual (on my first comment) but I replied to Ben this way
So you will have to come up with these accusations also (if you could quote me on these)
Then this week in July still
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That is followed up by an accusation of accusing it here by gby in post # 324
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/138894-bearing-fruit-17.html#post2706634
Which I answer here (this way) because I dont know this Prince fella
I thought I was very nuetral about it, and spoke to what grace does (and not try to divide it) see the following response
No Amen, just keep reading to which I respond
Then out of nowhere this comes in (no one is quoted) we both reply "quote me" (on this) because who can tell?
(Etc etc...) as we are on the same thread.
Its tiresome but its employed all the time, and I posted this knowing its a waste of time to do so
But to keep a copy and fold it into my studies on just this sort of thing.[/TD]
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Besides spending all last night and all today trying to find your accusations in the previous things (and finding none) now that comment. Since its July I thought it good to show at the end of May (which was just a couple months ago ) that I did not even know what hyper grace even was. I also didnt even know who follows this hypergrace doctrine (as there is no list of people for me to refer to this sect) I never even listened to this Mr Prince fella (I began to think I joined his website) like it was this secret group who call themselves WE that pile on you (and who are secretly promoting his stuff, doctrine/books/vdeos) which I have not heard bought or watched (and neither do I want to).
Now if I just said that you might want to call me a liar (and there we go again) and just so I can copy proof i adressed this (before the thread disapears) I want to post it so as to have THAT in my possession (for future reference) as I do those things on threads that disapear. But if I didnt provide the evidence you would just run at the mouth as you do. So I spent the evening doing the most vainest things collecting these things to refer to, since one accusation typically leads into another (even as the goal posts move also).
And to post these things (on my part) is absolutely stupid (I know) but i study and collect things on this type of thing
Date is the end of May here
I am behind CS1 asking HRFTD a question on whatever this hyer grace thing is
I myself dont even know what it is but I respond to CS1 first
Then I touch down on HRFTD's post here as well.
Hey look who likes that nuetral comment, not only that JGIG wrote a whole thing for me (since I didnt know that is too long to post) but responds here and me to her
Notice how I dont know who WE is I didnt know who that was on another OP also when I spoke to this elsewhere. I never heard of this thing or the man you follow and not interested in fact most the posters the seem to be on the threads (which I dont recall ever seeing you on them) are on ignore and have been for a while
See?
But WHO the WE are shouldnt matter one ioda, but sharing the truth according to the scriptures in a bible discussion forum.
(Note: not all are shown in that screen shot who are on ignore) just stating they have been told and from the time I didnt know what it was until now I have remained nuetral) but staying to the point and off the man
But to continue (keeping in mind that just 2 months ago I had no clue to what this thing was) I am supposedly blasting this group of WE (of persons I do not even know) save the obvious two (who I have on ignore)
Last two here
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That was May ^above ^(so let that be where my knowledge grew a little of this sect be marked)
as I didnt know anything of it in all my 25 years in Christ, I cant keep up with the sects and I try to avoid learning of many of these TV preachers and their doctrines (so I wouldnt know).
And because Its July here in the next post (a hyper grace thread) where all I did was offer my observations (see my next post after)
Im guessing, by observing the issue of grace itself (others see as Gods grace) in this hyper deal whereas I am saying that maybe Gods grace isnt the perceived enemy (from the other side of things) as I dont know I dont sit under this other mans doctrine. So I can only state that maybe "the enemy" (as it may be perceived) isnt really an enemy of Gods grace but whatever is this hyper grace deal by this man (who I dont learn from). I try to stay away from glorying in men its divisive (we are of, we are of, we are of) because they become offended in his things and all that.
You would have to read in between, the other snark as usual (on my first comment) but I replied to Ben this way
So you will have to come up with these accusations also (if you could quote me on these)
Then this week in July still
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That is followed up by an accusation of accusing it here by gby in post # 324
http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/138894-bearing-fruit-17.html#post2706634
Which I answer here (this way) because I dont know this Prince fella
I thought I was very nuetral about it, and spoke to what grace does (and not try to divide it) see the following response
No Amen, just keep reading to which I respond
Then out of nowhere this comes in (no one is quoted) we both reply "quote me" (on this) because who can tell?
(Etc etc...) as we are on the same thread.
Its tiresome but its employed all the time, and I posted this knowing its a waste of time to do so
But to keep a copy and fold it into my studies on just this sort of thing.[/TD]
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amen man, NONE of us adhere to Jesus perfectly. if we really think that were perfectly in line with Him, its because we haven't read the gospel enough. there is no end to His perfection, and our perfection is simply as you stated here, He is our Lord, we give Him our best because of everyuthing hes done for us. if we are forgiving others well never be condemned if Jesus is our heart. I'm glad I read this post of yours. God bless and to be clear I myself am far from perfect according to my Lord Jesus Christ.
but as paul gave example, I press on toward the prize for wich I was called heavenward in Christ jesus. if anyone is doing that, God will recognize them who seek after Him. as we grow we get better, our goal has always got to be Jesus, and never should we take the attitude that He did it so I don't need to listen to Him. ( I'm not saying this is what you are saying, but many do take the stance) I'm already perfect and just wait for it to happen and guard against pressing forward. ill never be perfect on this earth but I will always hear and follow the Lord with all of my heart mind soul and strength, glad to know we have that in common. press on in the one who loves you bro