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oyster67

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A summary of Rev 19-21 for your perusal:

The Rapture will happen sometime soon. You and I will suddenly be zipped up to Heaven along with all the other Christians including the ones that are dead in the cemeteries. We will then get glorified bodies and attend a Great Wedding Feast in Heaven. Some will be given crowns and rewards (the last shall be first). Those who were not ready for the Rapture will remain on Earth for 7 Years of Tribulation. Satan will try to get everyone to take on something called the “666 Mark of the Beast”. Those who refuse it will be hunted down and have their heads chopped off. After 7 years of these terrible times, Jesus will come back down to Earth and bring us with Him. This event is called “Christ’s Second Coming”. Jesus shall conquer all who resist Him as Him. This is called the “Battle of Armageddon”. Jesus will rule with a rod of iron until all His enemies be made His footstool. We shall rule with Jesus for 1000 years (“The Millennial Reign”). Some will have escaped the 7 years of Tribulation without getting their heads chopped off and will reproduce and repopulate the Earth during this 1000 year Millennial Reign. Satan will be bound with a great chain and be casted into a pit for this 1000 year period, but at the end of it he shall be released and find many followers who resented Jesus’ Rule over the Earth. Jesus will put a quick end to this rebellion and cast Satan into the “Lake of Fire” permanently.



The next great event on the calendar will be the “Resurrection of the Damned”. This is also called the “2nd Resurrection”(the 1st being the Rapture.) All the wicked ones from all ages past and present shall be brought before Jesus for what is called the “White Throne Judgement”. This judgement is only for the wicked ones. All will be found without excuse and will be cast into the Lake of Fire to spend eternity there with their father the Devil.



A great, great, city Shall then descend from the sky. This is “The New Jerusalem come down out of Heaven”. This is the Final State of things and the beginning of our eternity with Jesus.



All these thing I have spoken of are covered in just 3 short chapters at the end of Revelation. Just read chapters 19,20, and 21. Chapter 19 speaks of the end of 7 years of Tribulation on Earth and mentions The Marriage Supper of the Lamb in verses 7,8, and 9. We then then read of the Second Coming of the Lord upon a white horse with all the armies of Heaven at it proceeds from there until we read of the New Jerusalem at the end of chapter 21.
 

Truth7t7

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#2
A summary of Rev 19-21 for your perusal:

The Rapture will happen sometime soon. You and I will suddenly be zipped up to Heaven along with all the other Christians including the ones that are dead in the cemeteries. We will then get glorified bodies and attend a Great Wedding Feast in Heaven. Some will be given crowns and rewards (the last shall be first). Those who were not ready for the Rapture will remain on Earth for 7 Years of Tribulation. Satan will try to get everyone to take on something called the “666 Mark of the Beast”. Those who refuse it will be hunted down and have their heads chopped off. After 7 years of these terrible times, Jesus will come back down to Earth and bring us with Him. This event is called “Christ’s Second Coming”. Jesus shall conquer all who resist Him as Him. This is called the “Battle of Armageddon”. Jesus will rule with a rod of iron until all His enemies be made His footstool. We shall rule with Jesus for 1000 years (“The Millennial Reign”). Some will have escaped the 7 years of Tribulation without getting their heads chopped off and will reproduce and repopulate the Earth during this 1000 year Millennial Reign. Satan will be bound with a great chain and be casted into a pit for this 1000 year period, but at the end of it he shall be released and find many followers who resented Jesus’ Rule over the Earth. Jesus will put a quick end to this rebellion and cast Satan into the “Lake of Fire” permanently.



The next great event on the calendar will be the “Resurrection of the Damned”. This is also called the “2nd Resurrection”(the 1st being the Rapture.) All the wicked ones from all ages past and present shall be brought before Jesus for what is called the “White Throne Judgement”. This judgement is only for the wicked ones. All will be found without excuse and will be cast into the Lake of Fire to spend eternity there with their father the Devil.



A great, great, city Shall then descend from the sky. This is “The New Jerusalem come down out of Heaven”. This is the Final State of things and the beginning of our eternity with Jesus.



All these thing I have spoken of are covered in just 3 short chapters at the end of Revelation. Just read chapters 19,20, and 21. Chapter 19 speaks of the end of 7 years of Tribulation on Earth and mentions The Marriage Supper of the Lamb in verses 7,8, and 9. We then then read of the Second Coming of the Lord upon a white horse with all the armies of Heaven at it proceeds from there until we read of the New Jerusalem at the end of chapter 21.
Job 14:12KJV
12 So man lieth down, and riseth not: till the heavens be no more, they shall not awake, nor be raised out of their sleep.

Isaiah 26:19-21KJV
19 Thy dead men shall live, together with my dead body shall they arise. Awake and sing, ye that dwell in dust: for thy dew is as the dew of herbs, and the earth shall cast out the dead.
20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself as it were for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast.
21 For, behold, the Lord cometh out of his place to punish the inhabitants of the earth for their iniquity: the earth also shall disclose her blood, and shall no more cover her slain.
 

ewq1938

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The Rapture will happen sometime soon.
That is impossible according to this:

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Sorry but I won't let you deceive me about the rapture.
 

throughfaith

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That is impossible according to this:

2Th 2:1 Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2Th 2:2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
2Th 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

Sorry but I won't let you deceive me about the rapture.
' That day ' ? which day ?
 

jb

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' That day ' ? which day ?
It's clear to any honest person!

The 2nd Coming (NOT a supposed 3rd!) of Christ and the gathering of the Church to Himself (by resurrection and rapture) occurring on the SAME day (immediately AFTER the Great Tribulation) when He will also destroy Antichrist and the wicked!

The same truth is clearly shown in Rev 11v15-19, 1Cor 15v50-55, Matt 24v29-31, 1Thess 4v13-18
 

jb

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#6
A summary of Rev 19-21 for your perusal:

The Rapture will happen sometime soon. You and I will suddenly be zipped up to Heaven along with all the other Christians including the ones that are dead in the cemeteries. We will then get glorified bodies and attend a Great Wedding Feast in Heaven. Some will be given crowns and rewards (the last shall be first). Those who were not ready for the Rapture will remain on Earth for 7 Years of Tribulation. Satan will try to get everyone to take on something called the “666 Mark of the Beast”. Those who refuse it will be hunted down and have their heads chopped off. After 7 years of these terrible times, Jesus will come back down to Earth and bring us with Him. This event is called “Christ’s Second Coming”. Jesus shall conquer all who resist Him as Him. This is called the “Battle of Armageddon”. Jesus will rule with a rod of iron until all His enemies be made His footstool. We shall rule with Jesus for 1000 years (“The Millennial Reign”). Some will have escaped the 7 years of Tribulation without getting their heads chopped off and will reproduce and repopulate the Earth during this 1000 year Millennial Reign. Satan will be bound with a great chain and be casted into a pit for this 1000 year period, but at the end of it he shall be released and find many followers who resented Jesus’ Rule over the Earth. Jesus will put a quick end to this rebellion and cast Satan into the “Lake of Fire” permanently.



The next great event on the calendar will be the “Resurrection of the Damned”. This is also called the “2nd Resurrection”(the 1st being the Rapture.) All the wicked ones from all ages past and present shall be brought before Jesus for what is called the “White Throne Judgement”. This judgement is only for the wicked ones. All will be found without excuse and will be cast into the Lake of Fire to spend eternity there with their father the Devil.



A great, great, city Shall then descend from the sky. This is “The New Jerusalem come down out of Heaven”. This is the Final State of things and the beginning of our eternity with Jesus.



All these thing I have spoken of are covered in just 3 short chapters at the end of Revelation. Just read chapters 19,20, and 21. Chapter 19 speaks of the end of 7 years of Tribulation on Earth and mentions The Marriage Supper of the Lamb in verses 7,8, and 9. We then then read of the Second Coming of the Lord upon a white horse with all the armies of Heaven at it proceeds from there until we read of the New Jerusalem at the end of chapter 21.
Pure fiction!
 

throughfaith

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#7
It's clear to any honest person!

The 2nd Coming (NOT a supposed 3rd!) of Christ and the gathering of the Church to Himself (by resurrection and rapture) occurring on the SAME day (immediately AFTER the Great Tribulation) when He will also destroy Antichrist and the wicked!

The same truth is clearly shown in Rev 11v15-19, 1Cor 15v50-55, Matt 24v29-31, 1Thess 4v13-18
What ' day' in Thessalonians does Paul mean ? Within Thessalonians ?
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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' That day ' ? which day ?
The Day of The Lord - a well-known prophetic term.

2 Thess 2

Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters,
2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us – whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter – asserting that the day of the Lord has already come.

3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
 

throughfaith

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The Day of The Lord - a well-known prophetic term.

2 Thess 2

Concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our being gathered to him, we ask you, brothers and sisters,
2 not to become easily unsettled or alarmed by the teaching allegedly from us – whether by a prophecy or by word of mouth or by letter – asserting that the day of the Lord has already come.

3 Don’t let anyone deceive you in any way, for that day will not come until the rebellion occurs and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the man doomed to destruction.
Which means what?
 

Nehemiah6

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The Rapture will happen sometime soon.
The Resurrection/Rapture could happen at any moment, and it will be relatively soon given the present situation worldwide. Satan has taken control of all the governments as never before through COVID Tyranny.

At the same time the reign of the Antichrist (which corresponds to the Tribulation) will be limited to just 3 1/2 years (42 months, 1260 days, time, times, and half a time). The remaining 3 1/2 years will be for the Great Tribulation.

Also, many people have the mistaken idea that the New Jerusalem descends down to earth. That is incorrect. The New Jerusalem (which is a cube measuring 1,500 miles cubed) will come down from Heaven and replace the sun as the only heavenly body in the New Heavens. It will be the light of God and of the Lamb emanating from that heavenly body which will illuminate the earth from then on.
 

oyster67

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Paul addressed the Rapture Event in 1 Thessalonians 4 before He addresses the Second Coming later in Thessalonians. We are told that we will be caught up in clouds:

1 Thessalonians
4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
4:17 Then we which are alive [and] remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
4:18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

This shall be a day of joy to anticipate with comfort, not fear and dread.
 

Edify

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Also, many people have the mistaken idea that the New Jerusalem descends down to earth. That is incorrect. The New Jerusalem (which is a cube measuring 1,500 miles cubed) will come down from Heaven and replace the sun as the only heavenly body in the New Heavens. It will be the light of God and of the Lamb emanating from that heavenly body which will illuminate the earth from then on.
I don't have a clue how you came up with that.
Rev 21:10And he carried me away [g]in the Spirit to a great and high mountain, and showed me the holy city, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, (coming out of the 1st heaven, the atmosphere.)
22I saw no [q]temple in it, for the Lord God the Almighty and the Lamb are its [r]temple. 23And the city has no need of the sun or of the moon to shine on it(the city, not the earth), for the glory of God has illuminated it, and its lamp is the Lamb. 24The nations will walk by its light, and the kings of the earth will bring their glory into it. 25In the daytime (for there will be no night there) its gates will never be closed; 26and they will bring the glory and the honor of the nations into it; 27and nothing unclean, and no one who practices abomination and lying, shall ever come into it, but only those [t]whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

How would the kings of the earth enter it if it was in space?
 

Nehemiah6

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No, it can't. Paul said two major events must happen before those can happen.
Since Paul cannot contradict Christ, and Jesus said that the Rapture is imminent, you are simply and clearly mistaken. But if you still wish to cling to your mistaken ideas, no one will stop you from doing so.
 

ewq1938

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#20
Since Paul cannot contradict Christ, and Jesus said that the Rapture is imminent,

Jesus didn't say that. Two things that happen in the Great Tribulation must happen before we are gathered to Christ (raptured)