Sabbath sarcasm to illustrate a point and have fun at the same time. :)

[gotime]

The law says:

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

Now when we were under law it was sin to not keep the Sabbath as the law shows sin, but now that Jesus has died for our sin of breaking the Sabbath it is no longer sin to break the Sabbath see makes perfect sense.

Let me illustrate before and after the cross.

Breaking the Sabbath: sin ................................Cross...................................Breaking the Sabbath not sin anymore.

Simple really.

Then it says:

Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:

Notice all this not working going on during this Sabbath, That is clearly fleshly works based religion. anyone can see that. and its clear that it was only for Jews and no one else any STRANGER can see that.

Now look at the reason:

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

So the Reason God said this, ps we all know it was really Moses' law even though God spoke it and gave it. But as I was saying the reason is that God made the earth in six days and rested on the 7th and then blessed it and set it apart for Holy use.

Now please don't mistake this:

Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.


Now this may look like it is related but its not. Don't be fooled. Other than its being the 7th day and that God rested on this day and blessed this day and set it apart for Holy use. Other than it was after the six days of creation there is no relation at all between this and the commandment just sited. I mean seriously everybody knows that there was no Sabbath before Moses time.

I can't believe those law keepers see a connection between these verses. They are like, pages apart.

Besides everybody knows that Moses wrote this for the Jews who clearly would never mistake this verse in Genesis as some sort of Sabbath Day.



Now this is the point, notice it says: ...And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it... what it really means is God blessed a principle. Yes I know it says day, but it clearly could not mean that because of this totally related text over here:

Rom 14:5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind.
Rom 14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks.


See, see, the word day is used. Its unmistakable, no one could miss it. Here let me put them next to each other:

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.

See, day and day. They are clearly speaking about the same thing. not like the Genesis one that is so nothing alike as seen above.

I know I could rest my case here but lets make it air tight.

Col 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
Col 2:17 Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.

See let no one judge you on Sabbath days. Roughly translated Don't keep the Sabbath. anyone can see that. Its not like there are other Sabbaths mentioned in the Old Testament that were connected to the sacrificial feasts. Paul could not be speaking of those because the fact that everything else mentioned in those two verses is connected to sacrificial feasts prove it. Paul is clearly in that last word changing form Sacrificial Feasts to the 7th day Sabbath.

See cause as we saw in the Commandment, The 7th Day Sabbath pointed forward to the Sacrifice of Jesus as seen here:

Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

See totally points forward as I said. That proves it without a doubt. and everyone knows the Sacrificial Sabbaths have nothing to do with the sacrifice of Jesus and thus could not possible be the Sabbaths Paul here refers to with a bunch of other sacrificial feast descriptions.

Besides as we have already said the Sabbath was not for Jews which can be easily seen here:

Mar 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Mar 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

See form the mouth of Jesus friends, The Sabbath was made for man and by man Jesus means Jews only. anyone can see that.

but check this out. Jesus also said this:

Mat_11:28 Come unto me, all ye that labour and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.

See Jesus gives us rest, Roughly translated Don't keep the Sabbath anymore cause if you do then you are not resting anymore. and that is clear if you look closely. closer, closer you'll see it eventually.

So that is why I prescribe Sunday as a day of rest. Proof you ask, you want proof. well just check this out:

Act_20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

See the disciples met on the first day of the week. The first day is Sunday everybody knows that. and come together means keep Sabbath. So clearly Sunday is the Sabbath. Plus they broke bread which everybody knows is a sign of Sabbath keeping.

There are many more texts that showed they did stuff on the first day and there could only be one reason for this. It was Sabbath. There is no other explanation. Its not like they met together and broke bread everyday or anything.

Plus there is John, check this out:

Rev 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

now notice that he was in the spirit on the Lord's Day. Lord's day means First day of the week on the new Sabbath. how do I know that? well its simple He was in the Spirit and Paul says:

Gal_5:18 But if ye be led of the Spirit, ye are not under the law.

So clearly it could not be the 7th day Sabbath cause that would be law and keeping the law means your under the law and you can't be in the Spirit and be under law. boooya Gotcha law keepers.

How do I know the Lords day is Sunday which is Sabbath? well that is easy cause Jesus said as quoted before:

Mar 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Mar 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

See Jesus made the Sabbath and He is Lord of the Sabbath. Now granted here it is talking about the 7th day Sabbath. But as we discovered man means Jew in this text. and after Jesus died he is still lord of the Sabbath but now its changed cause, um, causeeeeeee. Oh yeah people met on the first day and you can't be in the Spirit while keeping old laws.

Everybody knows its a fleshly sinful work to keep the 7th day Sabbath. Why not be free in grace and keep Sunday instead. Keeping the 7th is fleshly but Sunday is spiritual. why? cause everybody knows that keeping a day is gratifying to the sinful nature. and that is why we should all keep Sunday.

 

[gotime]

Ps if you don't want to keep Sunday then don't keep any day because the underlying principle of the Sabbath is simply don't keep it.

 

[AbigailZeke]

I'm pretty sure this won't be taken as fun

 

[gotime]

I'm pretty sure this won't be taken as fun

Depends I suppose on who is reading it. But the sarcasm is designed to point out some obvious holes in some peoples reasoning. I know it is not the reasoning of all.

 

[1LonelyKnight]

So now every one runs out on weekend's to worship sports and retail gods. Blue laws done away with, we sow and we reap to another God - the blue cross ... The blue shield god ...

 

[Grace777x70]

The Law of Moses speaks to those that are under the Law. Christians are NOT under the Law, have been released from the Law , have died to the Law SO THAT we could be joined to Another - Christ Himself - It can't get much plainer then that.

I'll rest in the Lord Jesus' work on the cross and resurrection. He is my Sabbath rest. If others want to observe one day over another - go for it.

Where the perversion of the gospel of Christ comes in is when people say " If you don't observe the Sabbath as in the Law then you are sinning ." This is an anti-Christ belief system.

And I have this to say about this anti-Christ belief system.

The Law has not been done away with. It is that we Christians are "have died to the Law" SO THAT we could be joined to another - Christ Himself. The Law is made for the unrighteous and NOT for the righteous. 1 Tim. 1:9 We are the righteous ones in Christ.

The Christian has died to the Law, been released from the Law, and is not under the Law any more and the Law is NOT of faith. It can't get much plainer then that.

Died to the Law:

Romans 7:4 (NASB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God.

( bearing fruit for God is NOT based on the Law but based on our union with Christ Himself )

Been released from the Law:

Romans 7:6 (NASB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.

Not under the Law:

Romans 6:14 (NASB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace.
The Law is NOT of faith: The righteous shall live by faith - faith in what Christ has done.

Galatians 3:12 (NASB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] However, the Law is not of faith; on the contrary, "HE WHO PRACTICES THEM SHALL LIVE BY THEM."

( If people are going to live by the Law - they need to live by them - every Law - not pick and choose to water down the Law to make it seem "do-able". James says to break one law is to be guilty of the whole law )

 

[gotime]

The Law of Moses speaks to those that are under the Law. Christians are NOT under the Law, have been released from the Law , have died to the Law SO THAT we could be joined to Another - Christ Himself - It can't get much plainer then that.

Thank you Brother, a voice of reason. We are free from the law not that we are in Christ. I praise God that we are free for laws like this:

Deu 6:4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD:
Deu 6:5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
Deu 6:6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

Praise God we are not under this anymore hey. or this:

Exo 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

But no more, we are free now released from this law that even though God spoke its just Moses'

Like you said it can't get much plainer than that. I don't know how people have missed the Plain manner in which it is shown.


I'll rest in the Lord Jesus' work on the cross and resurrection. He is my Sabbath rest. If others want to observe one day over another - go for it.

Amen, that is what I said. we agree. I mean the word rest is used both in the Sabbath and the words of Jesus. What more could you want.

Where the perversion of the gospel of Christ comes in is when people say " If you don't observe the Sabbath as in the Law then you are sinning ." This is an anti-Christ belief system.

Yes, Oh Yes preach it. What sort of anti- Christ would say if you don't observe the Sabbath then you are sinning? Who would do that?

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.

Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

See guys this law which contains the Sabbath showed sin. Wait a second does this make Moses anti-christ?



And I have this to say about this anti-Christ belief system.

The Law has not been done away with. It is that we Christians are "have died to the Law" SO THAT we could be joined to another - Christ Himself. The Law is made for the unrighteous and NOT for the righteous. 1 Tim. 1:9 We are the righteous ones in Christ.

Amen again, we don't need a law, Us righteous ones can break it cause we are righteous. Love is not for us its for the unrighteous. makes sense.

Paul said this:

Rom 13:8 Owe no man any thing, but to love one another: for he that loveth another hath fulfilled the law.

Love is the key. and if we love we have fulfilled the law as he says:

Rom 13:9 For this, Thou shalt not commit adultery, Thou shalt not kill, Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness, Thou shalt not covet; and if there be any other commandment, it is briefly comprehended in this saying, namely, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Rom 13:10 Love worketh no ill to his neighbour: therefore love is the fulfilling of the law.

And of course what that means is when we love we don't have to obey those things anymore cause they are law. what ever you do, don't ever tell anyone that they should not steal cause that is law and we have died to it. Even worse those Christians who say that to steal is sin, what antichrist nonsense is that to suggest that someone is a sinner if they steal. Don't they know that only applies to people under the law? Once you have Christ you can love and steal. as long as you don't tell thieves who love that it is sin to steal. that would make you anti-christ.






The Christian has died to the Law, been released from the Law, and is not under the Law any more and the Law is NOT of faith. It can't get much plainer then that.

Died to the Law:

Romans 7:4 (NASB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Therefore, my brethren, you also were made to die to the Law through the body of Christ, so that you might be joined to another, to Him who was raised from the dead, in order that we might bear fruit for God.

( bearing fruit for God is NOT based on the Law but based on our union with Christ Himself )

true and of course that fruit will not be in line with the law cause that is not in Christ. Everyone knows that those who are in Christ do not keep the law. WE are under faith as Paul said:

Rom 3:30 Seeing it is one God, which shall justify the circumcision by faith, and uncircumcision through faith.
Rom 3:31 Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law.

As you said the law is not of faith and thus Paul clearly means here that those who have faith make void the law and clearly do not establish it. SO plain its impossible to miss.


Been released from the Law:

Romans 7:6 (NASB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] But now we have been released from the Law, having died to that by which we were bound, so that we serve in newness of the Spirit and not in oldness of the letter.

Yes, Once you have the Spirit and a spiritual mind you will hate the law, remember its not the sin that is the problem its the law. Look Paul said it clearly:

Rom 5:13 (For until the law sin was in the world: but sin is not imputed when there is no law.

See if there was no law then there would be no sin. Jesus came to die for the law. So now that there is no law we are saved. That is why later in chapter 8 he says:

Rom 8:5 For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.
Rom 8:6 For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
Rom 8:7 Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.
Rom 8:8 So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.

See we are led by the Spirit and the Spirit clearly is against the law and is not subject to it that is why they please God so much cause the Spirit leads them to disregard the law.




Not under the Law:

Romans 6:14 (NASB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] For sin shall not be master over you, for you are not under law but under grace.
The Law is NOT of faith: The righteous shall live by faith - faith in what Christ has done.

So here you have pointed out that sin shall not be your master. That is why Jesus died for the law right? SO for those who don't get the implication here let me make it clear. The law points out sin in other words its sin to break it and we have all broken it. We were all slaves to sin and needed saving. And now that we are under grace sin is not master over us. What that means is we will still obey it cause we have to but its just not our master anymore. cause we are under grace now. Notice Paul on this:

Rom 6:1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin, that grace may abound? Rom 6:2 God forbid. How shall we, that are dead to sin, live any longer therein?

See so you can see here that Grace does not lead to sin and sin is breaking the commandments but once you accept Jesus then breaking the commandments is no longer sin. It makes perfect sense.

Like I illustrated in the first post. Before the Jesus was sin to steal, now after Jesus its not sin anymore. Its good to be free. Nah just kidding that only applies to the Sabbath.



Galatians 3:12 (NASB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] However, the Law is not of faith; on the contrary, "HE WHO PRACTICES THEM SHALL LIVE BY THEM."

( If people are going to live by the Law - they need to live by them - every Law - not pick and choose to water down the Law to make it seem "do-able". James says to break one law is to be guilty of the whole law )

Thanx mate you are wise beyond your years. cheers for sharing.

 

[Grace777x70]

The Law is NOT of faith: The righteous shall live by faith - faith in what Christ has done.

Galatians 3:12 (NASB)
[SUP]12 [/SUP] However, the Law is not of faith; on the contrary, "HE WHO PRACTICES THEM SHALL LIVE BY THEM."

( If people are going to live by the Law - they need to live by them - every Law - not pick and choose to water down the Law to make it seem "do-able". James says to break one law is to be guilty of the whole law )

Jesus fulfilled the law. The law was a mere shadow of the real thing which was Jesus.

Read the law to see Jesus in it and to know that Jesus did that for us and His life in us now leads us in all things. Those who are led by the Spirit of God are the sons of God.

We now live by:

1) The law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus.

2)The law of love

3) The law of faith

4) The law of liberty

5) The law of Christ - which is Christ in us.

We can trust the Holy Spirit in us to lead us in all affairs of life. We don't go back to the beggarly elements that were a shadow of the real thing which is Christ in us.. Jesus is more then enough.

Going back to live by the law instead of the life of Christ on the inside of us - is like getting married and instead of spending time with her - you are in another room reading her old letters that she sent to you.

Jesus is our real life - not the Law of Moses. We can trust the Holy Spirit inside of us.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

So now every one runs out on weekend's to worship sports and retail gods. Blue laws done away with, we sow and we reap to another God - the blue cross ... The blue shield god ...

I have always misunderstood why people call bad habits or addictions worship or idolatry. All the people I know who looove sports and shopping do not worship it as a God or believe it is a God.
Idolatry-image-worship or divine honour paid to any created object. Paul describes the origin of idolatry in Romans 1:21-25: men forsook God, and sank into ignorance and moral corruption ( 1:28 ).
The forms of idolatry are,
Fetishism, or the worship of trees, rivers, hills, stones, etc.
Nature worship, the worship of the sun, moon, and stars, as the supposed powers of nature.
Hero worship, the worship of deceased ancestors, or of heroes.


Worship-
the act of showing respect and love for a god especially by praying with other people who believe in the same god : the act of worshipping God or a god.


Bad habits or addictions are not Idolatry or worship by definition. Still a sin if not checked but not idolatry which is a serious offence compared to an addiction.

 

[Grandpa]

Galatians 3:11-12
[FONT=&quot]11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

The Just shall live by faith.

The Law is not of faith.

But its quite alright and necessary to go back to the law and live as though we are justified by it. Because a couple religions say so.

Only the ignorant wouldn't listen to what these religions say, right? Its so logical. And Paul is too hard for us to understand... We can't be sure he really meant what he said.

Oh woops, that was sarcasm. Perhaps Paul isn't that hard to understand, especially in this case.

Galatians 3:2-3
[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

I really wish more people understood. As it is, I am happy that there are at least a few that do.[/FONT]

 

[gotime]

Galatians 3:11-12
11 But that no man is justified by the law in the sight of God, it is evident: for, The just shall live by faith.
12 And the law is not of faith: but, The man that doeth them shall live in them.

The Just shall live by faith.

The Law is not of faith.

But its quite alright and necessary to go back to the law and live as though we are justified by it. Because a couple religions say so.

Only the ignorant wouldn't listen to what these religions say, right? Its so logical. And Paul is too hard for us to understand... We can't be sure he really meant what he said.

Oh woops, that was sarcasm. Perhaps Paul isn't that hard to understand, especially in this case.

Galatians 3:2-3

2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

I really wish more people understood. As it is, I am happy that there are at least a few that do.

Well done Grandpa, getting into the spirit of things.

Indeed the law is not of faith, Paul said it so it is. And we all know that that simply means that if you keep the law you are not in faith right? So anyone who does not steal is clearly faithless. no just kidding everyone knows that its just the Sabbath it is obvious that keeping the 7th day Sabbath is an evidence of faithlessness. How could anyone think that keeping the Sabbath could possible be in faith. That's why we have Sunday cause Sunday is the Faith day remember cause people met on that day. Air tight.

And we would hate to take context into account here. That is just silly right?


And of course your second verse:


Galatians 3:2-3

2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

You are on to it hear. Did they receive the Spirit by works of the law? of course not, you can't work your way to heaven and that is why Sabbath is evil cause its works, mans filthy works for God to earn salvation as we can see clearly hear:

Gen 2:1 Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Jesus agreed it was filthy mans works also as we can see here:

Mar 2:27 And he said unto them, The sabbath was made for man, and not man for the sabbath:
Mar 2:28 Therefore the Son of man is Lord also of the sabbath.

I don't know how these law keepers can't see how filthy and fleshly the 7th day Sabbath is. Why can't they see how faith filled and spiritual Sunday is?



2 This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
3 Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?

and this could mean no other thing than they were keeping law full stop. there is no context. It could not possible be that they were doing it to have the Spirit (Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law). it could not possible by that they were trying to be perfected by the flesh could it (are ye now made perfect by the flesh?). No its just simply law, the end full stop. So clearly they were just keeping some of the law and that is evil.

I am with you mate, I just don't get how these Law keeping Sabbath keeping Guys could possible keep a day in faith and not think it earn them salvation and perfection. But as we know if you keep Sunday or any other day Faith and reliance on God can still be. Praise God for every other day of the week.

I mean what is so special about the 7th day anyway. Other than its the only one blessed by God directly in Scripture and the only one set apart for holy use before sin came into the world. Its really just another day. How do they not see it?

How is it possible that they can not understand that the 7th day Sabbath is a filthy fleshly work of man? it boggles the mind. How can they not see that keeping the 7th day Sabbath destroys faith and divorces Christ? Why can't they just keep another day? that way they will be in faith and married to Christ.

Thanx for your insight. with you bud.

 

[Yonah]

Wow I must say ive never seen it presented this way... anyway in that day when we stand before the great Judge of all, what will we say? what will we say?

 

[Grace777x70]

We will say that believe in His Son's perfect work for us and we held to the faith of His life leading us by the Holy Spirit within us. We believed that we died with Him on the cross and so we are dead to the Law of Moses.

That we believed the truth that we are released from the Law of Moses and are not under the Law of Moses because we are under grace - which is Christ Himself. We believed that we rose with Christ when He rose from the dead and now we have newness of His life is us.

Personally I can't wait to stand before my loving Father and tell Him I believe in what His Son - my Lord has done for all of us! I will thank Him as I do everyday and kneel before Him trusting in His love and grace.

Romans 8:14 (NASB)
[SUP]14 [/SUP] For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God.

 

[gotime]

Wow I must say ive never seen it presented this way... anyway in that day when we stand before the great Judge of all, what will we say? what will we say?

Yes a different tact, but it has a purpose. It is not to ridicule though some will take it that way. It is designed to show the faulty and erroneous thinking that many display. Hopefully doing it in a more light hearted way.

 

[pottersclay]

Remember the Sabbath and keep it holy. Choose this day blessings or cursing. Meditate on God's word. Seek and you will find me. Knock and the door shall be open. Call upon the name of the Lord and you shall be saved.
Just a few of the many things God has said to those who want a relationship with him. Repent for the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Love God with all your heart and soul. Don't murder, don't commit adultery, love one another,
Honor mom and dad. Don't backbite don't gossip, don't gripe, be kind, be generous, pray for one another, help one when their down. Seek you first the kingdom of heaven. Be a good steward.

When you find that you come short on one of these things, you have a advocate, Jesus, the mediator between you and God.
By grace you were saved not by any work of your own.

 

[disciplemike]

Sabbath sarcasm.
I would not advise making a thread like this.
no ill will to the poster, but to me, this is almost laughing at God.


and, also, I have a Sabbath thread coming, that should knock your socks off.

 

[LaurenTM]

Sabbath sarcasm.
I would not advise making a thread like this.
no ill will to the poster, but to me, this is almost laughing at God.


and, also, I have a Sabbath thread coming, that should knock your socks off.

I actually agree with that sentiment Mike...but prob for reasons other than your thoughts on it

however, I hope you see the irony in the offence (and please don't say none taken because the only alternative to your objection would be your belief that God is incensed)

every post you make in which you proclaim Hebrew Roots theology, is a smack in the face of the God you say you believe in

you should consider posting less...it is going to catch up to you...

 

[disciplemike]

I actually agree with that sentiment Mike...but prob for reasons other than your thoughts on it

however, I hope you see the irony in the offence (and please don't say none taken because the only alternative to your objection would be your belief that God is incensed)

every post you make in which you proclaim Hebrew Roots theology, is a smack in the face of the God you say you believe in

you should consider posting less...it is going to catch up to you...

sister, you may be right. I don't know.
I can promise you this. If I try to push a certain doctrinal point, it is not because I want anyone to be wrong or feel offended..
However, truth is, we have to be offended sometimes.
I was offended by a lot of the things I teach now.
I like all ya'll.
but I can't change what I believe.
not asking anyone else to change what they believe, but just to endure the conversation.

 

[LaurenTM]

sister, you may be right. I don't know.
I can promise you this. If I try to push a certain doctrinal point, it is not because I want anyone to be wrong or feel offended..
However, truth is, we have to be offended sometimes.
I was offended by a lot of the things I teach now.
I like all ya'll.
but I can't change what I believe.
not asking anyone else to change what they believe, but just to endure the conversation.

you are too modest Mike

however, I did not say anyone...I specifically mentioned GOD

I don't mind you either Mikie...you keep some of us on our toes and provide certain entertainment sometimes and doctrinal challenges at others

I disagree a person cannot change what they believe..you already DID change at least once, right?

we shall endure, as Paul, it's been a colorful race

 

[gotime]

Sabbath sarcasm.
I would not advise making a thread like this.
no ill will to the poster, but to me, this is almost laughing at God.


and, also, I have a Sabbath thread coming, that should knock your socks off.

I can appreciate your point of view here. But I assure you it is not laughing at God. It rather is pointing out in a different way the shortcomings of those who argue against the Sabbath. The examples I have used are really just over emphasised actual examples of the logic often used to disprove the Sabbath. But in that sarcastic method there is a revelation of truth.

I know it will not be for everyone. And that is ok, I tend to simply ignore and not read posts I don't like the style of.

I did hum and har before putting this up, as I knew it would be misunderstood by some. But I hope to illustrate in a bit more of a light hearted way that there needs to be more depth in peoples rebuttals.

It is so easy to quote Paul saying we are not under the law. But in doing so people are often putting their own concepts into what Paul is saying. Rather than actually exploring context and understanding the issues Paul was facing.

Its easy to say the Lords day is Sunday but there is no evidence in scripture for this anywhere yet people take it for granted.

They suggest Sunday was the Sabbath of the early church but when one goes to find evidence of this in scripture, it is nowhere to be found. Thus they grab hold of texts that simply state they met together and put there already assumed ideas into the text.

This thread in a light hearted way is exposing this reality.