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doesnt john explain this also ?
“If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.”
1 John 1:8-10
“My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.”
1 John 2:1-2 KJV
“If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us.”
1 John 1:8-10
“My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous: and he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for our's only, but also for the sins of the whole world.”
1 John 2:1-2 KJV
I couldn't tell whether you were in support or correcting me.[/QUOTE]
I don’t think I’ve ever tried to correct you brother or really disagreed with you regarding the Bible sometimes I guess I. Trying to offer an additional thought to what you said or show more of the scripture you used .
honestly though I outta stay out of other peoples talks when i read through it gives me thoughts so I shouldn’t
i apologize Paul you are handle things well yourself
I don’t think I’ve ever tried to correct you brother or really disagreed with you regarding the Bible sometimes I guess I. Trying to offer an additional thought to what you said or show more of the scripture you used .
honestly though I outta stay out of other peoples talks when i read through it gives me thoughts so I shouldn’t
i apologize Paul you are handle things well yourself
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[Act 13:48 KJV] 48 And when the Gentiles heard this, they were glad, and glorified the word of the Lord: and as many as were ordained to eternal life believed.[/QUOTE]
Scripture of truth did not say " and as many as were ordained to eternal life will believe." Scripture is clear, that this is not about pre-ordained but those who have eternal life are those who have believed.
Scripture of truth did not say " and as many as were ordained to eternal life will believe." Scripture is clear, that this is not about pre-ordained but those who have eternal life are those who have believed.
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Of course, all have sinned.... so there goes our righteousness. but Jesus came to save sinners, so all qualify
But it is the righteousness of Jesus, that is why it is a gift, its not our righteousness
What about yourself, do you look to who you are in Christ or would you rather try and revive a dead man and talk about him
But it is the righteousness of Jesus, that is why it is a gift, its not our righteousness
What about yourself, do you look to who you are in Christ or would you rather try and revive a dead man and talk about him
Scripture of truth did not say " and as many as were ordained to eternal life will believe." Scripture is clear, that this is not about pre-ordained but those who have eternal life are those who have believed.[/QUOTE]
He was referring to a specific event which had just occurred. From/by that, he revealed a biblical doctrine with
significance to all. All ordained to eternal life will/must come to believe.
He was referring to a specific event which had just occurred. From/by that, he revealed a biblical doctrine with
significance to all. All ordained to eternal life will/must come to believe.
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If you could explain it i would believe you but you cant explain something you don't know.
Ok wow...I said "You can't be born again until your sin has been dealt with, and you can't pay for it yourself"
You said " I agree"
I said "It's good you agree but then you turn around and pretend you have to deal with it through your life, but you admit it you can't be born again until it is dealt with. "
So It's good you agree...that sin has to be dealt with before you are born again.... but then you turn around and pretend you have to deal with sin throughout your life, but you admit you can't be born again until sin is dealt with.
Hopefully you see your position and that's why I said you don't understand the new birth because you cant explain it
Ok wow...I said "You can't be born again until your sin has been dealt with, and you can't pay for it yourself"
You said " I agree"
I said "It's good you agree but then you turn around and pretend you have to deal with it through your life, but you admit it you can't be born again until it is dealt with. "
So It's good you agree...that sin has to be dealt with before you are born again.... but then you turn around and pretend you have to deal with sin throughout your life, but you admit you can't be born again until sin is dealt with.
Hopefully you see your position and that's why I said you don't understand the new birth because you cant explain it
Acts 13:48 is not a doctrine like Roger wants to make it but it definitely signifies Paul's Calling to the Gentiles.
Look at Peter and Cornelius in Acts 10. Gentiles saved but no mention they were ordained before they heard the Gospel.
Look at Paul to Romans, Corinthians, Ephesians, Galatians, Thessalonians, etc...no mention of any of them ordained before hearing the Gospel.
So Acts 13:48 is a ONE TIME Event to prove Paul was the Apostle to preach and reach the Gentiles.
Kind of reminds me of the Blind Man whose parents nor him sinned but was Blind for Jesus to get Glory.
One Time event.
No grounds for a Doctrine because it NEVER happens again.
Look at Peter and Cornelius in Acts 10. Gentiles saved but no mention they were ordained before they heard the Gospel.
Look at Paul to Romans, Corinthians, Ephesians, Galatians, Thessalonians, etc...no mention of any of them ordained before hearing the Gospel.
So Acts 13:48 is a ONE TIME Event to prove Paul was the Apostle to preach and reach the Gentiles.
Kind of reminds me of the Blind Man whose parents nor him sinned but was Blind for Jesus to get Glory.
One Time event.
No grounds for a Doctrine because it NEVER happens again.
It is because Jesus took away our sins that God can become one with us, The spirit that Christians receive is the Spirit of Christ, if not that Spirit you are not a child of God
Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
Romans 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his.
10 And if Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin; but the Spirit is life because of righteousness.
11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.
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From Acts 17:26 - 28
Acts 17:30
They are so cool and wonderfully done
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