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wait.... you said "What do you believe, eternal salvation, which means you can commit enough sin to lose your salvation,
Or conditional salvation, meaning if you continue to constantly live in sin you can ultimetly lose your salvation."
Makes no sense, cause from what you said, either way you're saying do you believe you can lose your salvation this way, or the other way.
Basically you're trying to trick others into saying they believe you can lose salvation one way or the other. Cause the way you worded it, you say ''do you believe in eternal salvation, which means you can commit enough sin to lose your salvation, or conditional salvation meaning if you cnitune to constantly live in sin you can ultimetly lose your salvation".
Key word(s) in both of those questions/statements is ''to lose your salvation''. Here's something you need to take note on, we're all sinners, even the saved, we all sin daily, that's why we must repent of our sins. Jesus also said ''My grace is sufficient for thee'' so in saying that, His grace which along with His blood was shead on that cross for us, that's all it takes, a one time thing. By believing one can lose their salvation is to call Jesus a liar and call God's word false when it's TRUE and Jesus isn't a liar. The word of God says that when Jesus' blood is applied, we're sealed, our name is written in the Lamb's book of life. To lose ones salvation, our name would have to be removed right? Well according to Jesus it CAN'T be removed. It's written in blood, Jesus' blood, and NOTHING can remove His blood, nothing can touch it, nothing can replace it or anything else!
Or conditional salvation, meaning if you continue to constantly live in sin you can ultimetly lose your salvation."
Makes no sense, cause from what you said, either way you're saying do you believe you can lose your salvation this way, or the other way.
Basically you're trying to trick others into saying they believe you can lose salvation one way or the other. Cause the way you worded it, you say ''do you believe in eternal salvation, which means you can commit enough sin to lose your salvation, or conditional salvation meaning if you cnitune to constantly live in sin you can ultimetly lose your salvation".
Key word(s) in both of those questions/statements is ''to lose your salvation''. Here's something you need to take note on, we're all sinners, even the saved, we all sin daily, that's why we must repent of our sins. Jesus also said ''My grace is sufficient for thee'' so in saying that, His grace which along with His blood was shead on that cross for us, that's all it takes, a one time thing. By believing one can lose their salvation is to call Jesus a liar and call God's word false when it's TRUE and Jesus isn't a liar. The word of God says that when Jesus' blood is applied, we're sealed, our name is written in the Lamb's book of life. To lose ones salvation, our name would have to be removed right? Well according to Jesus it CAN'T be removed. It's written in blood, Jesus' blood, and NOTHING can remove His blood, nothing can touch it, nothing can replace it or anything else!
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apparently, he just wanted us to choose what we believe,
conditional salvation(that you can lose your salvation if you continue to constantly live in sin, after being saved),
once saved, always saved , (that you're not gonna lose your salvation, after being saved , whatever you do)
i dont see anything confusing with what he said.. heheh anycows, voted!
Oh and also, you need to look up the word ETERNAL. It means never ending, always lasting, forever and ever. It means infinite or unlimited time.Without end. You say "eternal salvation, which means you can commit enough sin to lose your salvation". My dear friend, God's word says ETERNAL and what you describe is one not being saved at all. The word of God tells us that once we accpet Christ, He NEVER lets us go no matter what me way do. Sure we can get away from God or ''backslide'' for a while, however He never goes anywhere, He doesn't leave us, Jesus' blood doesn't wash away. Speaking of which, there's a song called "The Blood Is Still There" not sure if you've ever heard it anyways, it talks about a little bo asking his father to look and see if the blood(Jesus blood) is still there, and the father tells his son "now son don't you worry,for the blood is there to stay, though the wind may blow, and the rain may fall, it won't just wash away, the blood will stand the raging storm, when applied with love and care, safe, secure, you can rest assure that the blood is still there". Also there's a song called Blessed Assurance, it says "blessed assurance, Jesus is mine, oh what a fore taste of glory devine. Heir of salvation, purchase of God, born of his Spirit, washed in His blood." If you don't know those songs, I suggest you find them, they're so awesome! Anyways, God bless everyone!
Abing, I'll give you credit on something, there isn't anything confusing about what he said. To those that pay attention to his wording, however, he did try and trick others into saying one way or the other that you can lose salvation. Eternal salvation means you can't lose it no matter what, however the way he said it was saying you commit so many sins then you'll lose it. If that were true, what's the point in Jesus dying for us? We all sin daily and have to repent as I already stated. Anyways, it's all good! God bless!
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oh well anyways
it shouldn't be eternal salvation (second choice) hehe coz both are eternal salvation.. hehe the 'once saved always saved' just means that right after you got saved, you receive eternal salvation right away.
the other choice meant you get eternal salvation, after you die, (meaning there's a chance to lose your salvation while still here on earth)
it shouldn't be eternal salvation (second choice) hehe coz both are eternal salvation.. hehe the 'once saved always saved' just means that right after you got saved, you receive eternal salvation right away.
the other choice meant you get eternal salvation, after you die, (meaning there's a chance to lose your salvation while still here on earth)
Right Sinner, you just answered yourself. cause that verse says what? "I will not blot out his name out of the book of life" therefore, if one's name isn't removed from the Lamb's book of life, one CAN'T lose salvation. Jesus will call out our name yes, and we shall face the Lord on that day, and confess all our sins, also confessing Him as Lord.
Sinner, I did not intend to sound rude just for the record, just saying the wording was wrong at least to most...and it sounded sort of tricky, none the less, as your sister in Christ, I still love you. It's all good. Also I want to make a note here, I'm not trying to debate this with anyone, just discuss it. This is a discussion forum thing not debate one ^_^. God bless!
OK well all this beautiful debate is all well and good BUT ..... I just wanted you to CLARIFY...
If you meant to say Eternal you do not lose your salvation please keep my vote on eternal
If you meant what you wrote when you said Eternal you could commit enough sin to lose your salvation then eliminate my vote.
Please clarify in writing to this exact issue. please nothing more... re write what you mean by Eternal or say... I meant what I said you can commit enough sin to lose your eternal salvation. Thank you.
If you meant to say Eternal you do not lose your salvation please keep my vote on eternal
If you meant what you wrote when you said Eternal you could commit enough sin to lose your salvation then eliminate my vote.
Please clarify in writing to this exact issue. please nothing more... re write what you mean by Eternal or say... I meant what I said you can commit enough sin to lose your eternal salvation. Thank you.
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