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I have noticed that there is a basic premise that both sides seem to agree on.
Both seem to agree that salvation is by Grace through Faith in Jesus. And most seem to agree that that faith produces good works/fruit though the Spirit.
The issue seems to be that if one person thinks there is a particular fruit and another person disagrees then they accuse of works based salvation. That really is not fair or logical.
As both believe that faith produces some kind of Fruit it is pointless and fruitless to keep accusing people of works based salvation. and then not listen when they say you have misunderstood them.
being that all seem to agree that we are saved by faith lets actually examine the fruit what is the fruit according to the bible.
Both seem to agree that salvation is by Grace through Faith in Jesus. And most seem to agree that that faith produces good works/fruit though the Spirit.
The issue seems to be that if one person thinks there is a particular fruit and another person disagrees then they accuse of works based salvation. That really is not fair or logical.
As both believe that faith produces some kind of Fruit it is pointless and fruitless to keep accusing people of works based salvation. and then not listen when they say you have misunderstood them.
being that all seem to agree that we are saved by faith lets actually examine the fruit what is the fruit according to the bible.
We all teach that we should have fruits, And we all teach that good works, and seeking the things of the spirit helps us not sin, Be blessed, and grow in our lord and savior.
It becomes legalism when eternal life/salvation is based on these works. and if some of them are not done, or one does not do them to a certain degree, then that salvation is lost. That is legalism.