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I like it when the two match up. This not only gives validity to both...but it makes you stop and wonder as to how they had advanced knowledge so long ago.

a couple of examples....
Isaiah 40:22
It is he that sitteth upon the circle of the earth, and the inhabitants thereof are as grasshoppers; that stretcheth out the heavens as a curtain, and spreadeth them out as a tent to dwell in:

and
Job 26:7
He stretcheth out the north over the empty place, and hangeth the earth upon nothing.

these two say the earth is round and hangs upon nothing.
Scientifically valid.

A few more examples...

Job 9:9
Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.

Job 38:31
Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?


mention very specific constellations not "officially" discovered until much later.


There is one more example I will list later...but I was wondering if anyone else has an example of valid science in the bible?
 

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i like to think. I have been told I overthink a bit....but oh well....


when making penicillin.....you need two different mold cultures. You take the two cultures and breed them...
over and over and over again until you get a generation of mold capable of producing a penicillin strain.

so you need two cultures of mold to get the desired product.

ok.


In comparison....we were NOT the dominant species on earth to begin with. We all know that Dinosaurs were.
And according to our science they existed for "ages" the Jurassic Triassic etc etc etc....

So they existed here a LONG TIME (supposedly) before we did.

then they get wiped out by whatever means....

then a new dominant species popps up
mammals

then US.

And WE have DNA characteristics of BOTH.

We have an area of our brain called the "reptilian brain" that hosts primal instincts
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triune_brain

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Basal_ganglia


and

https://phys.org/news/2012-11-humans-chimpanzees-monkeys-dna-gene.html


so even the human bloodlines host a RH+ or RH- factor.


So...just like creating penicillin

2 strains
one desired result
 
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There are numerous anomalies found in scripture that often gets over looked...for example.....Solomon said, "That which is going to be has already been and there is nothing new under the sun."

Cities in Pakistan and India show signs of vitrification with bodies showing many times the amount of radiation that should be in them........and there is only one thing that causes vitrification........

How would you describe the following....

Destruction that.....

a. Comes from under the shadow of a cloud
b. With the tempest of a storm
c. Causes the earth to undulate and quake
d. Burns cities with fire and makes them uninhabitable
e. Kills of of the young men of war in one hour that remain in their bases (strongholds)
f. Is heard around the world
g. No one helps for fear of her torment

I know how I would described it, and it involves splitting the atom............
 

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There are numerous anomalies found in scripture that often gets over looked...for example.....Solomon said, "That which is going to be has already been and there is nothing new under the sun."

Cities in Pakistan and India show signs of vitrification with bodies showing many times the amount of radiation that should be in them........and there is only one thing that causes vitrification........

How would you describe the following....

Destruction that.....

a. Comes from under the shadow of a cloud
b. With the tempest of a storm
c. Causes the earth to undulate and quake
d. Burns cities with fire and makes them uninhabitable
e. Kills of of the young men of war in one hour that remain in their bases (strongholds)
f. Is heard around the world
g. No one helps for fear of her torment

I know how I would described it, and it involves splitting the atom............
RIGHT??? and DINOSAUR BONES ARE RADIOACTIVE!!!
https://www.quora.com/Why-were-some-of-the-dinosaur-skeletons-radioactive

Most dinosaur bones discovered are highly radioactive. Because of this, the bones displayed in museums are covered with heavily leaded paint.
 

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Matthew 13:38
The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;


could this be a literal statement?
 

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Job 9:9
Which maketh Arcturus, Orion, and Pleiades, and the chambers of the south.

Job 38:31
Canst thou bind the sweet influences of Pleiades, or loose the bands of Orion?


mention very specific constellations not "officially" discovered until much later.
the Hebrew words here have no relation to the modern names 'Orion' & the 'Pleiades' -- words which are names of characters in specific Greek myths. scholarship determined that these Hebrew words probably refer to the same constellations that you know by their common names in the Hellenized world. in China Orion is called 'shen' meaning simply 'three stars' and the Aztecs called what we know as the Pleiades 'tianquiztli' meaning 'marketplace'


there's no such thing as an 'official discovery' of the stars we all see above. there are only 'standardized' names agreed upon among international groups of astronomers, so everyone can be sure that they are talking about the same thing. that's not 'official discovery'

Arcturus, for example, is a star. the brightest in Bootes. the root word is word that has to do with a bear, and in fact many translations decided to just say 'the bear' in Job 9:9 -- and some more recent versions went so far as to translate this as 'the big dipper' because its Latin name ((again an agreed upon standard, not a 'discovery')) is ursa major, the large bear.
 

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the Hebrew words here have no relation to the modern names 'Orion' & the 'Pleiades' -- words which are names of characters in specific Greek myths. scholarship determined that these Hebrew words probably refer to the same constellations that you know by their common names in the Hellenized world. in China Orion is called 'shen' meaning simply 'three stars' and the Aztecs called what we know as the Pleiades 'tianquiztli' meaning 'marketplace'


there's no such thing as an 'official discovery' of the stars we all see above. there are only 'standardized' names agreed upon among international groups of astronomers, so everyone can be sure that they are talking about the same thing. that's not 'official discovery'

Arcturus, for example, is a star. the brightest in Bootes. the root word is word that has to do with a bear, and in fact many translations decided to just say 'the bear' in Job 9:9 -- and some more recent versions went so far as to translate this as 'the big dipper' because its Latin name ((again an agreed upon standard, not a 'discovery')) is ursa major, the large bear.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleiades

Galileo Galilei was the first astronomer to view the Pleiades through a telescope. He thereby discovered that the cluster contains many stars too dim to be seen with the naked eye. He published his observations, including a sketch of the Pleiades showing 36 stars, in his treatise Sidereus Nuncius in March 1610.
 

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2488467/Scientists-believe-beginnings-CLAY.html

The latest theory is that clay - which is at its most basic, a combination of minerals in the ground - acts as a breeding laboratory for tiny molecules and chemicals which it 'absorbs like a sponge'.
The process takes billions of years, during which the chemicals react to each other to form proteins, DNA and, eventually, living cells, scientists told the journal Scientific Reports.
 

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alot of people get offended by the two being compared
thats ok.

but as an artist uses a paintbrush to produce masterful works of art

you dont think GOD can use scientific processes for the same?
 

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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2488467/Scientists-believe-beginnings-CLAY.html

The latest theory is that clay - which is at its most basic, a combination of minerals in the ground - acts as a breeding laboratory for tiny molecules and chemicals which it 'absorbs like a sponge'.
The process takes billions of years, during which the chemicals react to each other to form proteins, DNA and, eventually, living cells, scientists told the journal Scientific Reports.
if you're really interested in the topic of science & the Bible may i suggest you start looking at better sources of information than dailymail.co.uk and the top post ((but not the rest of the replies, obviously)) of a quora thread?
 

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if you're really interested in the topic of science & the Bible may i suggest you start looking at better sources of information than dailymail.co.uk and the top post ((but not the rest of the replies, obviously)) of a quora thread?
if you're really interested in the topic of science & the Bible may i suggest you start looking at better sources of information than dailymail.co.uk and the top post ((but not the rest of the replies, obviously)) of a quora thread?
lol
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/11/131105132027.htm
 

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science and the bible
why should they? His eternal qualities are clearly seen by the things which are made. we may, however, need to clearly see the things which are made before we understand how that's so.