SERPENT SEED :- TRAIL OF THE SERPENT

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Genesis 3: 13 "And the LORD God said unto the woman, What [is] this [that] thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat."

Genesis 3: 15 " And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."

As a christian am wondering about how the serpent deceived Eve and got her to eat of the fruit.

Its also mysterious on the way God reacted on the sin of His children and promised the seed of the woman to bruise the serpents seed.
Where is this seed today?
could there maybe people who were from the serpent and Eve union?

St Luke 3: 38 "Which was [the son] of Enos, which was [the son] of Seth, which was [the son] of Adam, which was [the son] of God."

Says Adam was a son of God,

St John 8: 38 "Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

Jesus told them they are of the trail of the devil, could it be He was refering to the serpent which beguiled Eve and bore Cain?

Left then to wonder "WAS IT AN ACT OF SEX THAT HAPPENED IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN BETWEEN EVE AND SERPENT"?
 
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Yes. Similar to what happened in Noah's ark. You know, centaurs existed for a while after the flood (not before)... But Noah systematically killed them all off because their very existence raised disturbing questions about what really went on in that boat.
 
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I have never heard that DJB! what went on in the Noah's ark Good to shed some more light on your comments although it was all about the Garden of Eden.
 
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...I don't know if you're messing with me right now or being serious...
 

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Genesis 3: 13 "And the LORD God said unto the woman, What [is] this [that] thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat." I dont believe that the serpent and eve had sexual relatians so that sin enters the human race, we only see sin entering the human race through the eating of the fruite of the knowledge of good and evil

Genesis 3: 15 " And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel." Eve and the serpent do not need sexual relatians for this to happen, John 3:6 that which is born of the flesh is flesh and that which is born of the spirit is spirit. im quite sure you would agree that we all have flesh and spirit, if we have the spirit of God and flesh it is quite fare to say that this enmity is happening in indavidual people and the two wage war over the human soal. isnt it fullfiled in the christians life and experiance that 'that which is born of the spirit (christ) crushes the head of that which is born of the flesh (sin)
Romans 8:3-9 (New International Version)


3For what the law was powerless to do in that it was weakened by the sinful nature,[a] God did by sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful man to be a sin offering.[b] And so he condemned sin in sinful man,[c] 4in order that the righteous requirements of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the sinful nature but according to the Spirit.
5Those who live according to the sinful nature have their minds set on what that nature desires; but those who live in accordance with the Spirit have their minds set on what the Spirit desires. 6The mind of sinful man[d] is death, but the mind controlled by the Spirit is life and peace; 7the sinful mind[e] is hostile to God. It does not submit to God's law, nor can it do so. 8Those controlled by the sinful nature cannot please God. 9You, however, are controlled not by the sinful nature but by the Spirit, if the Spirit of God lives in you. And if anyone does not have the Spirit of Christ, he does not belong to Christ.

Footnotes:
  1. <LI id=fen-NIV-28105a>Romans 8:3 Or the flesh; also in verses 4, 5, 8, 9, 12 and 13 <LI id=fen-NIV-28105b>Romans 8:3 Or man, for sin <LI id=fen-NIV-28105c>Romans 8:3 Or in the flesh <LI id=fen-NIV-28108d>Romans 8:6 Or mind set on the flesh
  2. Romans 8:7 Or the mind set on the flesh



As a christian am wondering about how the serpent deceived Eve and got her to eat of the fruit. the serpent told eve surly you will not die but will be like God in knowing good and evil

Its also mysterious on the way God reacted on the sin of His children and promised the seed of the woman to bruise the serpents seed.
Where is this seed today? this seed is christ and today can only be found in the church,
Colossians 2:9-10 (New International Version)


9For in Christ all the fullness of the Deity lives in bodily form, 10and you have been given fullness in Christ, who is the head over every power and authority.
Colossians 1:15-20 (New International Version)


The Supremacy of Christ

15He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. 16For by him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by him and for him. 17He is before all things, and in him all things hold together. 18And he is the head of the body, the church; he is the beginning and the firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything he might have the supremacy. 19For God was pleased to have all his fullness dwell in him, 20and through him to reconcile to himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through his blood, shed on the cross.


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could there maybe people who were from the serpent and Eve union? any thing is posible but what dose the evidence we have sugest, I dont believe this is the case, though if that be the case I think that God missed a verry crusial and important piece of information out of the scriptures

St Luke 3: 38 "Which was [the son] of Enos, which was [the son] of Seth, which was [the son] of Adam, which was [the son] of God."

Says Adam was a son of God, yes Adam was, but are you trying to make a case of whether Jesus christ is not God if that is so, there is much of christ which you can not say of Adam, (b) Jesus accepted worship even angels who had men bow to them refuted worship and told them to worship God alone (Rev 22:8-9) but there are acounts when Jesus was worshiped and it was not refuted, to think these men being Jews would write such a thing in there day unless they claimed themselves he was God, (Matt 14:33 then those who were in the boat worshiped him saying truly you are the son of God.)
(john 9:37-38 jesus said "you have now seen him infact he is the one speaking with you" Then the man said "Lord I believe" and he worshiped him)
All the deciples worshiped him (Matt 28:16-17 Then the eleven deciples went to Galilee to the mountin were Jesus had told them to go. When they saw him they worshiped him ;but some doubted)
Jesus claims of himself titles of God witch are non-transferable titles
God says (I AM) (Exodus 3:14 God said to Moses "I AM WHO I AM. this is what you are to say to the Israelites 'I AM has sent me to you)
(Isa 43:10, you are my witnises declares the Lord and my servant whom I have chosen so that you may know and believe me that I am he)
(Isa 43:11, I even I am the Lord, and apart from me there is no savior)
Jesus says (I AM) (john 8:58-59 "I tell you the truth' Jesus answered "before Abraham was born I am" at this they picked up stones to stone him but Jesus hid himself sliping away into the grounds) (John 18:4-6, Jesus knowing all that was going to happen to him went out and aked them "who is it you want ?" Jesus of Nazareth they replied " I am he" Jesus replied, and judas the traitor was standing there with them, When Jesus said "I am he" they drew back and fell to the ground.)
God is the giver of life Gen 2:7 Deut32:39 1 Sam 2:6 Jesus is the giver of life John 5:21 John 10:28 John 11:25
God forgiver of Sins Exodus 34:6-7, Neh 9:17 Dan 9:9 Jesus forgiver of Sins Mark 2:1-12 Act:26:18 Col 2:13
God Omnipresent Psa 139:7-8 Prov 15:3 Jesus Omnipresent Matt 18:20 Matt 28:20
God Omniscient 1 Kings 8:39 Jer 17:9-10 Jer 17:16 Jesus Omniscient Matt 11:27 Luke 5:4-6 John 2:25, John 16:30 John 21:17 Act1:24
God Omnipotent Isa 40:10-31, Isa 45:5-13, 18 Jesus Omnipotent Matt 28:18 Mark 1:29-34, John 10:18
God preexistant Gen 1:1 Jesus preexistant John 1:15-30, John 3:13, John 3:31-32 John 6:62 John 16:28 John 17:5
God is eternal Psa 102:26-27 Hab 3:6 Jesus is eternal Isa 9:6, Mic 5:2, John 8:58
God is immutable Num 23:19 Jesus is immutable Heb 13:8


St John 8: 38 "Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

Jesus told them they are of the trail of the devil, could it be He was refering to the serpent which beguiled Eve and bore Cain? as you can see from above I do not suport this haha

Left then to wonder "WAS IT AN ACT OF SEX THAT HAPPENED IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN BETWEEN EVE AND SERPENT"? no I dont believe it was


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mathew 13,3 003:And he spake many things unto them in parables, saying, Behold, a sower went forth to sow;004:And when he sowed, some seeds fell by the way side, and the fowls came and devoured them up:005:Some fell upon stony places, where they had not much earth: and forthwith they sprung up, because they had no deepness of earth:006:And when the sun was up, they were scorched; and because they had no root, they withered away.007:And some fell among thorns; and the thorns sprung up, and choked them:008:But other fell into good ground, and brought forth fruit, some an hundredfold, some sixtyfold, some thirtyfold.
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Hear ye therefore the parable of the sower.019:When any one heareth the word of the kingdom, and understandeth it not, then cometh the wicked one, and catcheth away that which was sown in his heart. This is he which received seed by the way side.020:But he that received the seed into stony places, the same is he that heareth the word, and anon with joy receiveth it;021:Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.022:He also that received seed among the thorns is he that heareth the word; and the care of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, choke the word, and he becometh unfruitful.023:But he that received seed into the good ground is he that heareth the word, and understandeth it; which also beareth fruit, and bringeth forth, some an hundredfold, some sixty, some thirty.
mathew 13 ,036:Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.037:He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;038:The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;039:The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.040:As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.
What is the seed hear?
How can a man produce fruit?Are we trees or Something?
I know these answers do you?
 
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Wot came first the sin or the sex?
 
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Genesis 3: 13 "And the LORD God said unto the woman, What [is] this [that] thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat."

Genesis 3: 15 " And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."

As a christian am wondering about how the serpent deceived Eve and got her to eat of the fruit.
Its also mysterious on the way God reacted on the sin of His children and promised the seed of the woman to bruise the serpents seed.
Where is this seed today?
could there maybe people who were from the serpent and Eve union?

St Luke 3: 38 "Which was [the son] of Enos, which was [the son] of Seth, which was [the son] of Adam, which was [the son] of God."

Says Adam was a son of God,

St John 8: 38 "Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

Jesus told them they are of the trail of the devil, could it be He was refering to the serpent which beguiled Eve and bore Cain?

Left then to wonder "WAS IT AN ACT OF SEX THAT HAPPENED IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN BETWEEN EVE AND SERPENT"?

first God was talking to satan ( the serpent) in verse 15
Genesis 3: 15 " And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."

enmity is an enemy , the her seed is referring to Christ, as he puts the enemies of God as a foot stool

Mt 22:44The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy FOOTSTOOL?Mr 12:36For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand, till I make thine enemies thy FOOTSTOOL.Lu 20:43Till I make thine enemies thy FOOTSTOOL.


If the Bible doesn't say anything about sex between the serpent and eve , then that is where I would leave it also UNSPOKEN.
 

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Yes. Similar to what happened in Noah's ark. You know, centaurs existed for a while after the flood (not before)... But Noah systematically killed them all off because their very existence raised disturbing questions about what really went on in that boat.
ih ave no idea what you are talking about in Noah's ark, but it does not sound like its biblical. i see no verses as to what your saying??? want to give some scriptures than explaine?
 
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ih ave no idea what you are talking about in Noah's ark, but it does not sound like its biblical. i see no verses as to what your saying??? want to give some scriptures than explaine?

AMEN scriptures please!
 
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I'm thinkin there are people here who need to READ Gods word... only read it... do not add to it. I'm sure you'll realize that these theories you spew are unbiblical and if they were true they would have actually been written down and GOD would have made it CLEAR. If there really was union between eve and satan. why do you even mention this? When i've heard people speak of these things its to justify their prejudices to another race stating that they are the race of cane. this is racist balogne if this is what you are eventually going to get to. ru kidding me right now.
 

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we all know eve did not hook up with the serpent in a sexual way. not only did eve sin, adam did as well. it was the fall of man.
Gen 2:16And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat;
Gen 2:17but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die."Gen 3:1Now the serpent was more cunning than any beast of the field which the LORD God had made. And he said to the woman, "Has God indeed said, 'You shall not eat of every tree of the garden'?"Gen 3:2And the woman said to the serpent, "We may eat the fruit of the trees of the garden;Gen 3:3but of the fruit of the tree which [is] in the midst of the garden, God has said, 'You shall not eat it, nor shall you touch it, lest you die.'Gen 3:4Then the serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die.Gen 3:5For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."i have done a study on this before, several times and she did not have sex with the snake. not only did she fall,but so did adam. just like christians, God warns us not to do certian things but then along comes satan, oh look, that looks good, the lust of the flesh, lets dabble in that, a little sin won't hurt, do what feels good. God won't care. Yea right! satan lies. God gives us direct commandments and if we don't follow them, we disobey Him. The wages of sin is death, spiritual death. the lies of satan are still the same today. he uses the same tricks, you notice that? just look at the conversation he was having with eve. we all know , how many times has each one of us thought about doing somthing, and weighing it out in your mind? back and forth, right and wrong. Where does that come from? This is where the word of God comes in, we don't stand around like eve did having Conversations with the devil, we use the word of God, just as Jesus did after fasting forty days and forty nights. Remember? Man shall not live by bread alone,but by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.matthew 4:4
. as with us when we sin, we may not die physically, but spiritually. The good news we are forgiven when we mess up, God heals are hearts and our sin is no longer remembered, but God has thrown it as far as the east is to the west and remembered it no more amen!
Rev 12:9So the great dragon was cast out, that serpent of old, called the Devil and Satan, who deceives the whole world; he was cast to the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
1Jo 3:8But when people keep on sinning, it shows they belong to the Devil, who has been sinning since the beginning. But the Son of God came to destroy these works of the Devil.
 

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Genesis 3: 13 "And the LORD God said unto the woman, What [is] this [that] thou hast done? And the woman said, The serpent beguiled me, and I did eat."

Genesis 3: 15 " And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel."

As a christian am wondering about how the serpent deceived Eve and got her to eat of the fruit.
Its also mysterious on the way God reacted on the sin of His children and promised the seed of the woman to bruise the serpents seed.
Where is this seed today?
could there maybe people who were from the serpent and Eve union?

St Luke 3: 38 "Which was [the son] of Enos, which was [the son] of Seth, which was [the son] of Adam, which was [the son] of God."

Says Adam was a son of God,

St John 8: 38 "Ye are of [your] father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it."

Jesus told them they are of the trail of the devil, could it be He was refering to the serpent which beguiled Eve and bore Cain?

Left then to wonder "WAS IT AN ACT OF SEX THAT HAPPENED IN THE GARDEN OF EDEN BETWEEN EVE AND SERPENT"?

Gen 4:1Adam lay with his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, "With the help of the Lord I have brought forth a man."now i think this verse is clear, adam lay with his wife eve.
you won't find any scripture that says eve had sex with the serpent. so please if you have a question that you are not sure of just ask. there are plenty of christians in this chat who love Jesus so much and would love to share what they have learned from Him. And share what is truley in the word of God and not some man made stuff, ok.
 
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