SHEPHERDS, FISHERMEN, SINNERS, POOR, AND THE SICK

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arthurfleminger

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When Jesus performed His ministry on earth, He looked with kindness and centered His ministry on 'Common People'. Shepherds/fishermen/sinnners/poor/sick. He sort of shunned the powerful/rich/Pharisees/Scribes, they weren't really interested in His Gospel message.

This gives me great hope, because I am just a common person, no power/wealth/influence. Jesus came for me.
 

studentoftheword

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He sort of shunned the powerful/rich/Pharisees/Scribes, they weren't really interested in His Gospel message.
Jesus never ever shunned anyone to sit with Him or to eat with Him ----if the rich ---poor ----Pharisees or Scribes came to Jesus and wanted to sit with Him ---talk with Him or eat with Him ---He accepted them --
By your quote here
He sort of shunned the powerful/rich/Pharisees/Scribes

Your making Jesus a respecter of persons and that goes against Scripture ------


Romans 2:11 AMP

11 For God shows no partiality [no arbitrary favoritism; with Him one person is not more important than another].

Jesus looks at the heart not the person -----
 

Pilgrimshope

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When Jesus performed His ministry on earth, He looked with kindness and centered His ministry on 'Common People'. Shepherds/fishermen/sinnners/poor/sick. He sort of shunned the powerful/rich/Pharisees/Scribes, they weren't really interested in His Gospel message.

This gives me great hope, because I am just a common person, no power/wealth/influence. Jesus came for me.
amen brother me too

A king will hide behind his common people to protect him from harm sacrificing their lives for his

the King of kings protects the commoners , the weak and weary , the overburdened , the broken , the cast aside and overlooked the humble and meek and he sacrifices his life , to save them
 

Pilgrimshope

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Jesus never ever shunned anyone to sit with Him or to eat with Him ----if the rich ---poor ----Pharisees or Scribes came to Jesus and wanted to sit with Him ---talk with Him or eat with Him ---He accepted them --
By your quote here
He sort of shunned the powerful/rich/Pharisees/Scribes

Your making Jesus a respecter of persons and that goes against Scripture ------


Romans 2:11 AMP

11 For God shows no partiality [no arbitrary favoritism; with Him one person is not more important than another].

Jesus looks at the heart not the person -----
amen this example

“Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me.

And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions. And Jesus looked round about, and saith unto his disciples, How hardly shall they that have riches enter into the kingdom of God!”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭10:21-23‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and this example shows another rich man with a different heart being saved

“And, behold, there was a man named Zacchæus, which was the chief among the publicans, and he was rich. And he sought to see Jesus who he was; and could not for the press, because he was little of stature. And when Jesus came to the place, he looked up, and saw him, and said unto him, Zacchæus, make haste, and come down; for to day I must abide at thy house. And he made haste, and came down, and received him joyfully. And when they saw it, they all murmured, saying, That he was gone to be guest with a man that is a sinner.

And Zacchæus stood, and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold.

And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham. For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭19:2-3, 5-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

paul later actually says that having a lot of wealth is a spiritual gift in the church meant to be shared with the poor among them even commanding them to be generous and help
Others with thier much

T he issue is when money is more important to us than generousity and helping those we can help with whatever we have little or alot mammon can’t be something that we chase and value so much like zacceus we need to be quick to share generously if we have wealth and mammon to spare it can otherwise become this

“And having food and raiment let us be therewith content. But they that will be rich fall into temptation and a snare, and into many foolish and hurtful lusts, which drown men in destruction and perdition. For the love of money is the root of all evil: which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. Fight the good fight of faith, lay hold on eternal life, whereunto thou art also called, and hast professed a good profession before many witnesses.”
‭‭1 Timothy‬ ‭6:8-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

We have to carefully attend our heart we’re commanded to love other people and if we have a lot of money that means we can really help them out in deed and truth

airs definately the heart because he knows what we do comes from the condition of our heart if we’re serving money and possessions we need to repent and start sharing with the needy around us
 
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Locoponydirtman

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One of the proofs and comforts Jesus send back to John the Baptist, when he sent message asking if He was the one, was that the poor have the gospel preached to them.
Through out history the average joe and the poor have been neglected if not persecuted by elites, and the religious. Jesus, did not do this. He set out to the down trodden directly.
 

Nehemiah6

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He sort of shunned the powerful/rich/Pharisees/Scribes, they weren't really interested in His Gospel message.
Actually Christ shunned no one. He even went to have a meal in a Pharisee's house, and specifically told Zacchaeus the tax collector that He wanted to dine with him. But the religious leaders of Israel hated Jesus without a cause. He told them to repent but when they refused to do so, and hardened their hearts, He pronounced terrible woes on them.

At the same time, the Lord Jesus Christ came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. And sinners did flock to Him. Also Christ deliberately chose ordinary men to become His apostles, and one who was a "devil" was chosen to do what he would do -- betray Christ. Yet there came a time when all His apostles forsook Him and fled. But that too was anticipated, and Christ did not hold that against them.

Today the ones who are most receptive to the Gospel are still ordinary people who see their need of a Savior and turn to Christ for salvation. But the Gospel must be preached to "every creature" regardless. Some very wealthy people also became sincere disciples and shared their wealth with the less fortunate.
 

Komentaja

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When Jesus performed His ministry on earth, He looked with kindness and centered His ministry on 'Common People'. Shepherds/fishermen/sinnners/poor/sick. He sort of shunned the powerful/rich/Pharisees/Scribes, they weren't really interested in His Gospel message.

This gives me great hope, because I am just a common person, no power/wealth/influence. Jesus came for me.
1 Corinthians says the same. God chose that which is lowly in the world.

People who are well off just don't care for the Gospel in general, they have gotten their reward in this time and hell awaits. Anyone who has done soul winning will know what I am saying is true, the poor neighborhoods are always more receptive.
 

oyster67

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SHEPHERDS, FISHERMEN, SINNERS, POOR, THE SICK, AND THE TAX COLLECTORS.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Actually Christ shunned no one. He even went to have a meal in a Pharisee's house, and specifically told Zacchaeus the tax collector that He wanted to dine with him. But the religious leaders of Israel hated Jesus without a cause. He told them to repent but when they refused to do so, and hardened their hearts, He pronounced terrible woes on them.

At the same time, the Lord Jesus Christ came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance. And sinners did flock to Him. Also Christ deliberately chose ordinary men to become His apostles, and one who was a "devil" was chosen to do what he would do -- betray Christ. Yet there came a time when all His apostles forsook Him and fled. But that too was anticipated, and Christ did not hold that against them.

Today the ones who are most receptive to the Gospel are still ordinary people who see their need of a Savior and turn to Christ for salvation. But the Gospel must be preached to "every creature" regardless. Some very wealthy people also became sincere disciples and shared their wealth with the less fortunate.
amen it’s when they rejected him not him picking and choosing and deciding for them
 

Pilgrimshope

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1 Corinthians says the same. God chose that which is lowly in the world.

People who are well off just don't care for the Gospel in general, they have gotten their reward in this time and hell awaits. Anyone who has done soul winning will know what I am saying is true, the poor neighborhoods are always more receptive.
arhats not true though many who have riches respond to the gospel nd bless e poor all around them like this guy

“And, behold, there was a man named Zacchæus, which was the chief among the publicans, and he was rich. And when they saw it, they all murmured, saying, That he was gone to be guest with a man that is a sinner.

And Zacchæus stood, and said unto the Lord; Behold, Lord, the half of my goods I give to the poor; and if I have taken any thing from any man by false accusation, I restore him fourfold.

And Jesus said unto him, This day is salvation come to this house, forsomuch as he also is a son of Abraham. For the Son of man is come to seek and to save that which was lost.”
‭‭Luke‬ ‭19:2, 7-10‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Other rich folk respond like this to Jesus teachings about generousity to the needy

“Then Jesus beholding him loved him, and said unto him, One thing thou lackest: go thy way, sell whatsoever thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come, take up the cross, and follow me. And he was sad at that saying, and went away grieved: for he had great possessions.”
‭‭Mark‬ ‭10:21-22‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Jesus teachkngs are going to challenge us at whatever point has got a hold on our heart could Be mammon and money riches and wealth and greed he’s going to challenge it

could be many many things hat have corrupted our heart for God and our fellow man having possessions doesn’t disqualify being greedy with possessions does choosing those things over the lord and his gospel

aid we have an issue one thing is for certain Jesus teachings will draw it into the light and we’re going to have to face and deal with it as we grow into understanding