Should a Christian tithe, what does the Bible say

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Dino246

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"You are making false accusations based on information you do not have. Further, you have been challenged to provide support for your assertions, and you have failed miserably.

... I see no reason to continue responding to a liar."

Is it sad when you cant even keep to your own words, how much more you show you cant keep to any word that Christ says, very sad...
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Unless you repented of your own words, and now found reason to respond :)
Now you're owning being a liar.
 

prophecyuk

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The believers who thirst and hunger for righteousness, are filled, with strength. Abraham was strong in that faith, of righteousness, thirsting, buying that milk without price, not labouring for that which is no good, but labouring for what endures forever, as your money in this life perishes along with everything else, just cease that practise, give it up and hear the rebuke, it cannot lie, but without hearing it, that is all lies, so eat what is good, listen dilligently to Christ, then we never hunger or thirst, because He gives us all, always, as we will for all other too, so buy the truth, don't sell it for the devils price and all men who disagree to actual righteousness, they have nothing good to say, nothing good to show, even though they think they do, and the Kingdom of Heaven, of course it is as told, selling all you have to buy it, and that fainting in the day of adversity, that being offended from persecution from the word(Christians) is exactly because you did not righteously deliver them that were drawn to death. He will render to you according to your works. But if you are filled with righteousness, you can never give or help enough to others, because that is filled in you..

Matthew 5:6 Blessed are they which do hunger and thirst after righteousness: for they shall be filled.

Romans 4:19 And being not weak in faith, he considered not his own body now dead, when he was about an hundred years old, neither yet the deadness of Sarah's womb:
20 He staggered not at the promise of God through unbelief; but was strong in faith, giving glory to God;

Isaiah 55:1 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
2 Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.

John 6:27 Labour not for the meat which perisheth, but for that meat which endureth unto everlasting life, which the Son of man shall give unto you: for him hath God the Father sealed.

John 6:35 And Jesus said unto them, I am the bread of life: he that cometh to me shall never hunger; and he that believeth on me shall never thirst.

Proverbs 23:23 Buy the truth, and sell it not; also wisdom, and instruction, and understanding.

Matthew 13:44 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto treasure hid in a field; the which when a man hath found, he hideth, and for joy thereof goeth and selleth all that he hath, and buyeth that field.
45 Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a merchant man, seeking goodly pearls:
46 Who, when he had found one pearl of great price, went and sold all that he had, and bought it.

Proverbs 24:10 If thou faint in the day of adversity, thy strength is small.
11 If thou forbear to deliver them that are drawn unto death, and those that are ready to be slain;
12 If thou sayest, Behold, we knew it not; doth not he that pondereth the heart consider it? and he that keepeth thy soul, doth not he know it? and shall not he render to every man according to his works?

Matthew 13:21 Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended.

Matthew 25:34-46 It is only about what is told, not about you not doing.
 

prophecyuk

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"You are making false accusations based on information you do not have. Further, you have been challenged to provide support for your assertions, and you have failed miserably.

... I see no reason to continue responding to a liar."



Now you're owning being a liar.
Do you mind if I repeat your own words, seeing as they are so good..

I see no reason to continue responding to a liar.
 

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The answer is no. The tithe has a very specific purpose, applied to a specific people, meeting specific circumstances. Money is not the tithe. The Tithe was for Levites, who had no inheritance in the Land of Israel and were responsible for Temple operations. The Tithe was grain, fruits, and livestock used to sustain the Levites, being as used as food, and to aid in the Temple procedures such as grain offering and special ceremonies. As there are no Levites still in the position of Priest, neither is there an active Priesthood. Not to mention that the Tithe only applied to those who lived in the Nation of Israel, the physical land that was promised. Scripture never teaches that this changes.
 

Dino246

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Do you mind if I repeat your own words, seeing as they are so good..

I see no reason to continue responding to a liar.
Laughably unfounded. False accusations are of your father. Go away, and take your false gospel with you.
 

prophecyuk

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I wonder what Christ would think if someone insists He does not bide a priest continually and to this day?

Also, what priest would He be, if it is shown He receives tithes, and then these who say they believe in Him, insist He no longer receives tithes from us? Especially as it is witnessed, He has an UNCHANGEABLE PRIESTHOOD

Hebrews 7:3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.

Hebrews 7:17 For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.

Hebrews 7:24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.
25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.


So it is told anyway, Levi payed tithes in Abraham, we also pay tithes in Abraham. Pay tithes in faith, because we have no faith in Christ when we do unlike Him to lay our life down for our brethren, and when we shut up bowels of mercy, hardening our hearts making excuses why we don't give with everything we have for others suffering, even exactly as Christ did and is..

Hebrews 7:9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.

James 2:5 Hearken, my beloved brethren, Hath not God chosen the poor of this world rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he hath promised to them that love him?
6 But ye have despised the poor. Do not rich men oppress you, and draw you before the judgment seats?
7 Do not they blaspheme that worthy name by the which ye are called?
8 If ye fulfil the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself, ye do well:
9 But if ye have respect to persons, ye commit sin, and are convinced of the law as transgressors.
10 For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
11 For he that said, Do not commit adultery, said also, Do not kill. Now if thou commit no adultery, yet if thou kill, thou art become a transgressor of the law.
12 So speak ye, and so do, as they that shall be judged by the law of liberty.
13 For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment.
14 What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him?
15 If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food,
16 And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit?
17 Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone.
 

prophecyuk

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Malachi was written under the old covenant of Sinai, not the new covenant in Christ's blood. It is relevant to Israel, not to Christians. There are no Levites to receive the tithe, and no storehouse to store it.

In the New Testament, generous giving is encouraged; tithing is not.
This person must mean in the Epistles, as He cant say in the Gospel of Christ, Matthew Mark Luke and John. Neither can he example all the Apostles and the Apostle to the gentiles, Paul, nor the thousands on day of Pentecost, as they gave too generously for his liking, they gave all the living they had...NOTICE the rich cast in much( as the false teachers here all say generously) but the widow cast in more than them all, as it was HER ALL..

Mark 12:41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much.
42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing.
43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury:
44 For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living.
 

prophecyuk

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Laughably unfounded. False accusations are of your father. Go away, and take your false gospel with you.
I am of my Father, how did you know that?

The Gospel is not false, it may be hidden to you but not false at all, as I did not preach myself, but Christ Jesus the Lord..

2 Corinthians 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake.
 

Dino246

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Tithing is generous giving.
No, it isn't. That is a pervasive and common error. Tithing is giving one-tenth of agricultural produce or every tenth animal, as prescribed in the Law of Moses. Under the Law, presenting the tithe at the tabernacle or temple was not optional in any sense. It was required, such that when it was not done as prescribed, God could legitimately accuse Israel of robbing Him.

However, as the requirement to bring tithes was an old covenant command, it was fulfilled in Christ along with the rest of the Law.

Giving is optional, in amount, time, and kind. We as Christians are encouraged to give in the New Testament, but nowhere are we required to "tithe".

Conflating "tithing" with "giving" only leads to confusion. They simply are not synonymous.
 

prophecyuk

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No, it isn't. That is a pervasive and common error. Tithing is giving one-tenth of agricultural produce or every tenth animal, as prescribed in the Law of Moses. Under the Law, presenting the tithe at the tabernacle or temple was not optional in any sense. It was required, such that when it was not done as prescribed, God could legitimately accuse Israel of robbing Him.

However, as the requirement to bring tithes was an old covenant command, it was fulfilled in Christ along with the rest of the Law.

Giving is optional, in amount, time, and kind. We as Christians are encouraged to give in the New Testament, but nowhere are we required to "tithe".

Conflating "tithing" with "giving" only leads to confusion. They simply are not synonymous.
Lets see if seeing tithing as anything at all to do with giving, and giving generously, leads to confusion or to being set free by the truth..

The old covenant was in the letter, mans way without faith, without knowledge, ignoring all the things to believe in of spirit, because they are only flesh talking, as seen when people talk about tithes here, and why they insist it was for Israel only, proves they have no such faith as Abraham, as Abraham is the father of us all, Abraham received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of faith when he was still uncircumcised, which enables him to be the father of us all that believe this same way, walking in the SAME STEPS of that faith of our father Abraham.

Abraham brought back all the goods, and the promise for Abraham to be heir to the world, was not through any law(not through tithing that was a law) it was through tithing that was generous giving of Abraham. In Genesis 14, we see Abraham responded to the priest of the most high God, and gave Him tithes of all.

Looking through eyes of faith( as a Christian does) and not looking through the law in letters, we see it is relevant for Christians to be taught this, for it is contained in our new testament. The King of righteousness and peace met Abraham, at the exact time when Abraham was successful, and when Abraham had wealth gathered, He came to him. This was the blessing to Abraham and Abraham knew that, and not out of necessity, but generously gave a tenth of the spoils, because there was no law for Abraham, ALL WAS BY THE RIGHTEOUSNESS OF FAITH, as Abraham is this example only to this entire world. The man was great it is recorded, to whom EVEN the Patriach Abraham gave(give generously) tenth(tithe) of the spoils. Levi had a commandment to take tithes of the people in the law. But He who is not decent from the Levis, received tithes of Abraham, as Abraham gave them by faith not within any requirements, demands, expectations, not by any law. This blessed Abraham who had the promises to be heir to us all through faith, so we know assuredly, Abraham gave generously through faith a tithe of all and we cannot have a different faith, especially as Christ has an everlasting and unchanging priesthood, to make intercession for us, to bless us, but not if we do differently from Abraham's example of faith, and harden our heart and through flesh excuse why we boast we can do a different way, but there is no other way in but the one walked in already and shown, as Levi payed tithes in Abraham, in faith that is, as we do too, or we have no like faith, which all goes together, to show, the greater matters of the law are FAITH..

Romans 4:11 And he received the sign of circumcision, a seal of the righteousness of the faith which he had yet being uncircumcised: that he might be the father of all them that believe, though they be not circumcised; that righteousness might be imputed unto them also:
12 And the father of circumcision to them who are not of the circumcision only, but who also walk in the steps of that faith of our father Abraham, which he had being yet uncircumcised.
13 For the promise, that he should be the heir of the world, was not to Abraham, or to his seed, through the law, but through the righteousness of faith.
14 For if they which are of the law be heirs, faith is made void, and the promise made of none effect:
15 Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression.
16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.



Genesis 14:16 And he brought back all the goods, and also brought again his brother Lot, and his goods, and the women also, and the people.
17 And the king of Sodom went out to meet him after his return from the slaughter of Chedorlaomer, and of the kings that were with him, at the valley of Shaveh, which is the king's dale.
18 And Melchizedek king of Salem brought forth bread and wine: and he was the priest of the most high God.
19 And he blessed him, and said, Blessed be Abram of the most high God, possessor of heaven and earth:
20 And blessed be the most high God, which hath delivered thine enemies into thy hand. And he gave him tithes of all.



Hebrews 7:7 For this Melchisedec, king of Salem, priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him;
2 To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;
3 Without father, without mother, without descent, having neither beginning of days, nor end of life; but made like unto the Son of God; abideth a priest continually.
4 Now consider how great this man was, unto whom even the patriarch Abraham gave the tenth of the spoils.
5 And verily they that are of the sons of Levi, who receive the office of the priesthood, have a commandment to take tithes of the people according to the law, that is, of their brethren, though they come out of the loins of Abraham:
6 But he whose descent is not counted from them received tithes of Abraham, and blessed him that had the promises.
7 And without all contradiction the less is blessed of the better.
8 And here men that die receive tithes; but there he receiveth them, of whom it is witnessed that he liveth.
9 And as I may so say, Levi also, who receiveth tithes, payed tithes in Abraham.
10 For he was yet in the loins of his father, when Melchisedec met him.
11 If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood, (for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, and not be called after the order of Aaron?
12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.

Hebrews 7:24 But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.
25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he EVER LIVETH to make intercession for them.
26 For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;

Matthew 23:23 Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye pay tithe of mint and anise and cummin, and have omitted the WEIGHTIER MATTERS OF THE LAW, JUDGEMENT, MERCY, AND FAITH: these ought ye to have done, and not to leave the other undone.

John 10:1 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that entereth not by the door into the sheepfold, but climbeth up some other way, the same is a thief and a robber.

So the one who claims that tithing and giving are not the same, claims Abraham did not give generously, which is a rediculus unfounded false claim, that bounty was made up for Abraham and for us all through faith, because of course Abraham gave and gave generously from the spoils, and this was a tenth, and this was tithing, this was Abraham's good work as it is ours too through faith in Christ which is our righteousness remaining forever.

2 Corinthians 9:5 Therefore I thought it necessary to exhort the brethren, that they would go before unto you, and make up beforehand your bounty, whereof ye had notice before, that the same might be ready, as a matter of bounty, and not as of covetousness.
6 But this I say, He which soweth sparingly shall reap also sparingly; and he which soweth bountifully shall reap also bountifully.
7 Every man according as he purposeth in his heart, so let him give; not grudgingly, or of necessity: for God loveth a cheerful giver.
8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you; that ye, always having all sufficiency in all things, may abound to every good work:
9 (As it is written, He hath dispersed abroad; he hath given to the poor: his righteousness remaineth FOR EVER.

John 8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
32 And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.
 

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It is very true then, Christians give when their heart feels it is right. But they have no heart at all, unless their treasure is only in Heaven, and not here on earth.
 

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This person must mean in the Epistles, as He cant say in the Gospel of Christ, Matthew Mark Luke and John. Neither can he example all the Apostles and the Apostle to the gentiles, Paul, nor the thousands on day of Pentecost, as they gave too generously for his liking, they gave all the living they had...NOTICE the rich cast in much( as the false teachers here all say generously) but the widow cast in more than them all, as it was HER ALL..

Mark 12:41 And Jesus sat over against the treasury, and beheld how the people cast money into the treasury: and many that were rich cast in much.
42 And there came a certain poor widow, and she threw in two mites, which make a farthing.
43 And he called unto him his disciples, and saith unto them, Verily I say unto you, That this poor widow hath cast more in, than all they which have cast into the treasury:
44 For all they did cast in of their abundance; but she of her want did cast in all that she had, even all her living.
"all" is not a tenth; it is not tithe.

you're not recognizing any difference between freewill offering and remittance of tithe, and not recognizing any difference between compulsion under law to return a specified portion and uncompelled generosity.


you're insisting on calling every example of every gift "tithe" -- the Bible does not use this word the way you are using it.
 

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"Physical circumcision.
It's indisputably part of the Law of the Sinai covenant, and you've already been shown Galatians 5. It's indisputably not part of the new covenant. "

Galatians 5 shows to love our neighbour as ourselves. It shows they that are Christs, have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts. We live and walk in the spirit.

Colossians 2 shows, we are circumcised, with the circumcision made without hands, and buried with Him in baptism. It transforms into this way physically, as told, it is in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh, by the circumcision of Christ.

Romans 2 shows, if we break the law, that same law, nothing else to remind us of, our circumcision is made uncircumcision, but if we keep the righteousness of that same law to Israel(in it's entirety) we are counted as circumcised, fulfilling the law, even as Christ said, this is what it means for all to be until fulfilled.. Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. Those who transgress the law, are judged by those who keep it, as the Jew is inwardly, circumcision of the heart, in the spirit, so we have praise of God not men, which was the wrongness about the first circumcision. So we are circumcised away from the flesh, even though you consider it is not physical circumcision, it is even more physical than that first method.


Galatians 5:14 For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

Galatians 5:24 And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.
25 If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.

Colossians 2:11 In whom also ye are circumcised with the circumcision made without hands, in putting off the body of the sins of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ:
12 Buried with him in baptism, wherein also ye are risen with him through the faith of the operation of God, who hath raised him from the dead.
13 And you, being dead in your sins and the uncircumcision of your flesh, hath he quickened together with him, having forgiven you all trespasses;

Romans 2:25 For circumcision verily profiteth, if thou keep the law: but if thou be a breaker of the law, thy circumcision is made uncircumcision.
26 Therefore if the uncircumcision keep the righteousness of the law, shall not his uncircumcision be counted for circumcision?
27 And shall not uncircumcision which is by nature, if it fulfil the law, judge thee, who by the letter and circumcision dost transgress the law?
28 For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Philippians 3:3 For we are the circumcision, which worship God in the spirit, and rejoice in Christ Jesus, and have no confidence in the flesh.

Cleanliness laws continue, to all who consider it unclean, it is unclean.Nothing ceased at all, you only confirm everything more and more.

Romans 14:14 I know, and am persuaded by the Lord Jesus, that there is nothing unclean of itself: but to him that esteemeth any thing to be unclean, to him it is unclean.

The law of Moses can hardly be my law, when it is weak through the flesh, but the law of Christ has no such weakness in it. Therefore tithing must be seen through that law of Christ, as it was, when we see they gave all away, but those who are self seeking gainers cant see that can they :)
Pointing at 'spiritual circumcision' does not erase the fact that physical circumcision was law, given by God, and no longer is.

It's like I say no one makes steam locomotives anymore, and you try to prove it's not so by talking about diesel engines. Completely immaterial to the discussion, it's just misdirection, avoiding the fact that your premises are proven wrong about eternality of all commands.
 

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"all" is not a tenth; it is not tithe.

you're not recognizing any difference between freewill offering and remittance of tithe, and not recognizing any difference between compulsion under law to return a specified portion and uncompelled generosity.

you're insisting on calling every example of every gift "tithe" -- the Bible does not use this word the way you are using it.
The Christian tithe, where do you get they pay a dime on every dollar.
 

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Pointing at 'spiritual circumcision' does not erase the fact that physical circumcision was law, given by God, and no longer is.

It's like I say no one makes steam locomotives anymore, and you try to prove it's not so by talking about diesel engines. Completely immaterial to the discussion, it's just misdirection, avoiding the fact that your premises are proven wrong about eternality of all commands.
The difference being man and God, man makes things that are temporal, all that's in this world is temporary, and when God does things, it is all forever. If God made a train, He does not need to develop it further, because He already is the perfect creator. Then bearing in mind He has given to us circumcision, in that same moment it is perfect, it just needs to be perfectly understand and applied in the right time, hence why it was told to you, we are the circumcision, and what circumcision really is, is in the heart, not in the letter, whose praise is no of men but of God.

Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Your wisdom of this world is foolishness and turned backwards, oh wise man.

Isaiah 44:25 That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish;

2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Ecclesiastes 3:14 I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be forever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.


Tithing is told about in faith, all regarding Abraham, but if you have no interest in faith, talk about the letter if you wish, it is your freewill, but it is irrelevant to the ops question, as the bible is the word of faith, not for man in the letter without any understanding of the Spirit in faith. But as told, doubtless it is of interest to others..

Romans 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Romans 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
 

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The difference being man and God, man makes things that are temporal, all that's in this world is temporary, and when God does things, it is all forever. If God made a train, He does not need to develop it further, because He already is the perfect creator. Then bearing in mind He has given to us circumcision, in that same moment it is perfect, it just needs to be perfectly understand and applied in the right time, hence why it was told to you, we are the circumcision, and what circumcision really is, is in the heart, not in the letter, whose praise is no of men but of God.

Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.

Your wisdom of this world is foolishness and turned backwards, oh wise man.

Isaiah 44:25 That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish;

2 Corinthians 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

Ecclesiastes 3:14 I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be forever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.


Tithing is told about in faith, all regarding Abraham, but if you have no interest in faith, talk about the letter if you wish, it is your freewill, but it is irrelevant to the ops question, as the bible is the word of faith, not for man in the letter without any understanding of the Spirit in faith. But as told, doubtless it is of interest to others..

Romans 10:8 But what saith it? The word is nigh thee, even in thy mouth, and in thy heart: that is, the word of faith, which we preach;
9 That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
10 For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

Romans 10:15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
16 But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Esaias saith, Lord, who hath believed our report?
17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
do you?? you talk the talk, do you do what you say?
 

prophecyuk

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"your premises are proven wrong about eternality of all commands"

Can you show one command, just one that is not eternally?

I can continue to answer, as I have done, Tithing began in faith in Abraham, it was to Christ, the everlasting unchanging priesthood and was not under the law, it was freewill out of generosity of the spoils, and we as believers, do no different, it is foolishness to insist we do a different way as done and as witnessed, so God gives to us the same like spoils, and we give, and also to begin to be the disciple of Christ we must forsake all we have also.

Circumcision always was going to be in the heart in the Spirit, it began in the flesh to show how it was taken over by practise of men, who seek glory in men, and not the praise that comes from God only. Now is the true circumcision as always intended, nothing happens with the Lord by chance, as known to God are all His works from the beginning.

Animals clean ior unclean, it did not cease, to any man that esteems anythng unclean, to him it is, because he lacks faith, that was why the first laws were given, to witness if Isrsel had fasith or not, which they had not, so we see how to beleve truly in faith, not after their faithless example, because they were never given faith by God until Shiloh came.

Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.

Ritual cleaning did not cease, we are clean through the word if we believe it, and we are unclean if we don't, meaning, they do not clean as in the law of Christ, by lack of cleansing faith.

Judgement on adultery, on all matters of vengeance, it is all the Lords, he who is without sin cast the first stone, so we overcome evil with good, because doing good pleases the Lord, who will then stop the evil doers in His time.

Show something that is not eternal, but God is eternal and everything He does is the same, come on now disputer, we can see if you can disprove a single thing, or nothing..

1 Corinthians 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel: not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ should be made of none effect.
18 For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God.
19 For it is written, I will destroy the wisdom of the wise, and will bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent.
20 Where is the wise? where is the scribe? where is the disputer of this world? hath not God made foolish the wisdom of this world?
21 For after that in the wisdom of God the world by wisdom knew not God, it pleased God by the foolishness of preaching to save them that believe.
22 For the Jews require a sign, and the Greeks seek after wisdom:
23 But we preach Christ crucified, unto the Jews a stumblingblock, and unto the Greeks foolishness;
24 But unto them which are called, both Jews and Greeks, Christ the power of God, and the wisdom of God.

Do we do the talk, yes we do, we are what we talk, out of our mouth is good talk or evil talk. all is answered already and self explanatory, if we have faith to believe the testimony of Christ

Luke 6:45 A good man out of the good treasure of his heartbringeth forth that which is good; and an evil man out of the evil treasure of his heart bringeth forth that which is evil: for of the abundance of the heart his mouthspeaketh.
 

posthuman

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The Christian tithe, where do you get they pay a dime on every dollar.
From people like prophecyuk who bastardize the word tithe and who teach and have been taught that the tithe is a law for the believer in Christ.

Biblically a tithe paid in cash should be 12% ((per Leviticus 27)) as I've explained multiple times. A tithe required of living creatures/souls cannot be lawfully paid with coin.

Biblically we do not tithe. That is a Sinai covenant command, not a command given by Christ to the church.