Should A Minister Charge For His Ministry?

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A few months ago, as we attended the funeral of my sister in law’s husband’s father, a renowned gospel musician was invited. She ministered gloriously. But a few weeks after the funeral, as I visited my sister in law and her husband, we got discussing about the funeral and the expenses…

As we chatted along, we talked about the gospel musician that was invited to the funeral. And my sister in law’s husband disclosed to me that the gospel musician actually charged over a million Nigerian Naira to come and minister. On hearing that, I was very infuriated and bewildered. And right there and then, I expressed my disappointment and indignation.

Then as I looked up to God for a topic to post for discussion this week, the Lord impressed strongly in my Spirit to post about the erroneous ministration charges by his ministers.

The Unscriptural Charges of Ministers

Over the years, I have heard it said that some ministers of the gospel, including: Apostles, Prophets, Pastors, Teachers, Evangelists and Christian musicians charge huge amounts of money in order to go and minister where they are invited to. I didn’t take it much seriously until I have been able to confirm the validity of this particular report.

I have been able to confirm that ministry charges are not only the practice of travelling ministers, but also non-travelling ministers. Many a gospel ministers, including music ministers, don’t move to anywhere for ministry invitation, except a specified amount of money is credited into their accounts.

Then for some, they don’t accept invitations to small congregations knowing they won’t be well paid or given a large honorarium. Then on the other hand, in most local churches, to be able to access the ministers for personal ministration-such as counselling—you must have to obtain a form with good amount of money.

If you don’t have money to obtain the form, you won’t be allowed to see the ministers. And in some cases, during normal meetings, those members who do not have money are excluded from certain ministrations. Then recently, I also hear that people now charge to minister as Choristers in Churches, especially in a starting up local Church. All these stated cases above, are just to name but a few…

And as it is, these practices are increasing on daily basis, both in big and small churches. And of course, these practices do not have any scriptural basis. Hence, they are absolutely unscriptural. And any minister, indulging in such practices with eternity-with Christ—in view should quickly desist.

And any Christian patronizing such ministers and ministries should be wise enough to quickly desist as well. Even if the minister or ministry is valid, we do have a right and spiritual responsibility to reject their ministries; because the ministry gifts of God are not for sale. It is pervasion to charge for any ministry gift.

The Scriptural Due of a Christian Minister

“And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
These twelve Jesus sent forth into the way of the Gentiles, and into any City of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go, preach, saying, the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils; freely you have received, freely give.Provide neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat”—Matthew 10:1,5-10

And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you”—Luke 10:8.

From the above scriptures we can clearly see the biblical prototype of a travelling minister, and what is expected of him or her. And also what is expected to be provided for him or her.

Translating the above scripture to modern time, we see that the basic things a travelling minister is due for his ministration are: a shelter (any kind of shelter), Meal(any manageable Meal), and then the minister’s fare should also be provided.

And it is not still out of place for the local church to raise an offering for the minister’s honorarium. But that should be left to the prerogative of the local church. Apart from the basic needs, such as transportation, shelter and food, a minister need not demand for other thing.

After providing for at least the basic needs, the minister should be content. If an honorarium is also added above his basic needs, it is not a sin to accept it. But on the other hand, if it is not given, the minister should also be content to have had the privilege to have ministered to the people of God. And not be offended, and decide not to go and minister there again because he was not given honorarium. That’s a wrong spiritual attitude; because he is a minister of God…

It is true the scripture just quoted says, a workman is worthy of his meat, but his meat giver is his employer, God. Not man. Even though God most of the time uses men…

Then for the local Church minister, he is to minister to all and sundry, with no discrepancies.

He is to minister freely to the poor as well as the rich. He is to minister without charging anyone a dime. Freely he has received and freely he is to give. But then he can receive honorarium from the tithe and offerings as a labourer in the word (1Timothy 5:17-18). And if someone is led of his own free will to sow monetary or material seed to him, of course, he can also receive it.

After all these, and the minister sees that what he receives is not enough income to meet all his or her responsibility, then let him set up a business. A minister setting up a business is not a sin. He can engage in a business that does not encroach into his ministry time (There are many of them these days).

Then eventually, as the business grows, he can employ people to manage the business, while he just plays a supervisory role…
All these are the scriptural ways for a minister to earn his due for a living.

If you have any question, reply or comment, you can post it below for discussion.

Emeke Odili
 

Nauga

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#2
A few months ago, as we attended the funeral of my sister in law’s husband’s father, a renowned gospel musician was invited. She ministered gloriously. But a few weeks after the funeral, as I visited my sister in law and her husband, we got discussing about the funeral and the expenses…

As we chatted along, we talked about the gospel musician that was invited to the funeral. And my sister in law’s husband disclosed to me that the gospel musician actually charged over a million Nigerian Naira to come and minister. On hearing that, I was very infuriated and bewildered. And right there and then, I expressed my disappointment and indignation.

Then as I looked up to God for a topic to post for discussion this week, the Lord impressed strongly in my Spirit to post about the erroneous ministration charges by his ministers.

The Unscriptural Charges of Ministers

Over the years, I have heard it said that some ministers of the gospel, including: Apostles, Prophets, Pastors, Teachers, Evangelists and Christian musicians charge huge amounts of money in order to go and minister where they are invited to. I didn’t take it much seriously until I have been able to confirm the validity of this particular report.

I have been able to confirm that ministry charges are not only the practice of travelling ministers, but also non-travelling ministers. Many a gospel ministers, including music ministers, don’t move to anywhere for ministry invitation, except a specified amount of money is credited into their accounts.

Then for some, they don’t accept invitations to small congregations knowing they won’t be well paid or given a large honorarium. Then on the other hand, in most local churches, to be able to access the ministers for personal ministration-such as counselling—you must have to obtain a form with good amount of money.

If you don’t have money to obtain the form, you won’t be allowed to see the ministers. And in some cases, during normal meetings, those members who do not have money are excluded from certain ministrations. Then recently, I also hear that people now charge to minister as Choristers in Churches, especially in a starting up local Church. All these stated cases above, are just to name but a few…

And as it is, these practices are increasing on daily basis, both in big and small churches. And of course, these practices do not have any scriptural basis. Hence, they are absolutely unscriptural. And any minister, indulging in such practices with eternity-with Christ—in view should quickly desist.

And any Christian patronizing such ministers and ministries should be wise enough to quickly desist as well. Even if the minister or ministry is valid, we do have a right and spiritual responsibility to reject their ministries; because the ministry gifts of God are not for sale. It is pervasion to charge for any ministry gift.

The Scriptural Due of a Christian Minister

“And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
These twelve Jesus sent forth into the way of the Gentiles, and into any City of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go, preach, saying, the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils; freely you have received, freely give.Provide neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat”—Matthew 10:1,5-10

And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you”—Luke 10:8.

From the above scriptures we can clearly see the biblical prototype of a travelling minister, and what is expected of him or her. And also what is expected to be provided for him or her.

Translating the above scripture to modern time, we see that the basic things a travelling minister is due for his ministration are: a shelter (any kind of shelter), Meal(any manageable Meal), and then the minister’s fare should also be provided.

And it is not still out of place for the local church to raise an offering for the minister’s honorarium. But that should be left to the prerogative of the local church. Apart from the basic needs, such as transportation, shelter and food, a minister need not demand for other thing.

After providing for at least the basic needs, the minister should be content. If an honorarium is also added above his basic needs, it is not a sin to accept it. But on the other hand, if it is not given, the minister should also be content to have had the privilege to have ministered to the people of God. And not be offended, and decide not to go and minister there again because he was not given honorarium. That’s a wrong spiritual attitude; because he is a minister of God…

It is true the scripture just quoted says, a workman is worthy of his meat, but his meat giver is his employer, God. Not man. Even though God most of the time uses men…

Then for the local Church minister, he is to minister to all and sundry, with no discrepancies.

He is to minister freely to the poor as well as the rich. He is to minister without charging anyone a dime. Freely he has received and freely he is to give. But then he can receive honorarium from the tithe and offerings as a labourer in the word (1Timothy 5:17-18). And if someone is led of his own free will to sow monetary or material seed to him, of course, he can also receive it.

After all these, and the minister sees that what he receives is not enough income to meet all his or her responsibility, then let him set up a business. A minister setting up a business is not a sin. He can engage in a business that does not encroach into his ministry time (There are many of them these days).

Then eventually, as the business grows, he can employ people to manage the business, while he just plays a supervisory role…
All these are the scriptural ways for a minister to earn his due for a living.

If you have any question, reply or comment, you can post it below for discussion.

Emeke Odili
The Word says that a minister should be given what he needs to minister. If a full time minister is in fact ministering full time, the people need to support him....Ok Thats a minister., evangelist etc. Now, I've received a gift...I lay hands on people and they are healed. That's ministering healing right? But should I charge for that ministering? NO! Freely I have been given the gift, freely I share that gift. I have been given the gift of wisdom...Do I charge for ministering that gift....Absolutely NOT! So then, whats the difference between the minister ministering, and me ministering my gift? I'll just put it this way...The minister works and sweats and prays and well you get the picture. He earns the support. Me? I come over, lay hands on you, command healing in you and walk away, and forget about it. Its a done deal. How much effort did I put into it. How much support did I earn? Freely you have received, freely give.
 
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A few months ago, as we attended the funeral of my sister in law’s husband’s father, a renowned gospel musician was invited. She ministered gloriously. But a few weeks after the funeral, as I visited my sister in law and her husband, we got discussing about the funeral and the expenses…

As we chatted along, we talked about the gospel musician that was invited to the funeral. And my sister in law’s husband disclosed to me that the gospel musician actually charged over a million Nigerian Naira to come and minister. On hearing that, I was very infuriated and bewildered. And right there and then, I expressed my disappointment and indignation.

Then as I looked up to God for a topic to post for discussion this week, the Lord impressed strongly in my Spirit to post about the erroneous ministration charges by his ministers.

The Unscriptural Charges of Ministers

Over the years, I have heard it said that some ministers of the gospel, including: Apostles, Prophets, Pastors, Teachers, Evangelists and Christian musicians charge huge amounts of money in order to go and minister where they are invited to. I didn’t take it much seriously until I have been able to confirm the validity of this particular report.

I have been able to confirm that ministry charges are not only the practice of travelling ministers, but also non-travelling ministers. Many a gospel ministers, including music ministers, don’t move to anywhere for ministry invitation, except a specified amount of money is credited into their accounts.

Then for some, they don’t accept invitations to small congregations knowing they won’t be well paid or given a large honorarium. Then on the other hand, in most local churches, to be able to access the ministers for personal ministration-such as counselling—you must have to obtain a form with good amount of money.

If you don’t have money to obtain the form, you won’t be allowed to see the ministers. And in some cases, during normal meetings, those members who do not have money are excluded from certain ministrations. Then recently, I also hear that people now charge to minister as Choristers in Churches, especially in a starting up local Church. All these stated cases above, are just to name but a few…

And as it is, these practices are increasing on daily basis, both in big and small churches. And of course, these practices do not have any scriptural basis. Hence, they are absolutely unscriptural. And any minister, indulging in such practices with eternity-with Christ—in view should quickly desist.

And any Christian patronizing such ministers and ministries should be wise enough to quickly desist as well. Even if the minister or ministry is valid, we do have a right and spiritual responsibility to reject their ministries; because the ministry gifts of God are not for sale. It is pervasion to charge for any ministry gift.

The Scriptural Due of a Christian Minister

“And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
These twelve Jesus sent forth into the way of the Gentiles, and into any City of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go, preach, saying, the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils; freely you have received, freely give.Provide neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat”—Matthew 10:1,5-10

And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you”—Luke 10:8.

From the above scriptures we can clearly see the biblical prototype of a travelling minister, and what is expected of him or her. And also what is expected to be provided for him or her.

Translating the above scripture to modern time, we see that the basic things a travelling minister is due for his ministration are: a shelter (any kind of shelter), Meal(any manageable Meal), and then the minister’s fare should also be provided.

And it is not still out of place for the local church to raise an offering for the minister’s honorarium. But that should be left to the prerogative of the local church. Apart from the basic needs, such as transportation, shelter and food, a minister need not demand for other thing.

After providing for at least the basic needs, the minister should be content. If an honorarium is also added above his basic needs, it is not a sin to accept it. But on the other hand, if it is not given, the minister should also be content to have had the privilege to have ministered to the people of God. And not be offended, and decide not to go and minister there again because he was not given honorarium. That’s a wrong spiritual attitude; because he is a minister of God…

It is true the scripture just quoted says, a workman is worthy of his meat, but his meat giver is his employer, God. Not man. Even though God most of the time uses men…

Then for the local Church minister, he is to minister to all and sundry, with no discrepancies.

He is to minister freely to the poor as well as the rich. He is to minister without charging anyone a dime. Freely he has received and freely he is to give. But then he can receive honorarium from the tithe and offerings as a labourer in the word (1Timothy 5:17-18). And if someone is led of his own free will to sow monetary or material seed to him, of course, he can also receive it.

After all these, and the minister sees that what he receives is not enough income to meet all his or her responsibility, then let him set up a business. A minister setting up a business is not a sin. He can engage in a business that does not encroach into his ministry time (There are many of them these days).

Then eventually, as the business grows, he can employ people to manage the business, while he just plays a supervisory role…
All these are the scriptural ways for a minister to earn his due for a living.

If you have any question, reply or comment, you can post it below for discussion.

Emeke Odili
To me it seems like you are getting caught up in your own pre-conceived ideas about how much a minister should make and how much he should get paid. God supplies many different ministers with many different personalities and many different strong points, all in an effort to reach the many different peoples. If a certain minister charges a minimum amount, or wishes to only minister to a congregation of a certain size and you are uncomfortable with his needs, choose a different minister. Simple as that.

Being a business owner, I must admit that I almost laughed out loud when you said how "he" could simply start a business that does not interfere with his ministry, since the vast majority of business owners that I know spend 50 - 70 hours a week trying to get the business up and running and hopefully earning a profit. Then you continued on and said how he could simply grow this "part time business" until it had so many employees that he could just take a supervisory role. :) If only it worked like that.

So, really, my thoughts are that for some people, some congregations, some celebrations, there will be certain ministers that will be called and others that will be passed on for one reason or the other.

It is often said "you get what you pay for". Would you rather that an evangelist/minister/preacher fully bathed your event in prayer, fasted and listened for the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and came completely full, energized and ready to minister, or would you prefer that he came tired and worn out after a week of running his business so that he can pay all of his obligations and gave your event whatever he happened to have left?

Just some thoughts to ponder.

God bless,
Mike
 

Dino246

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1 Timothy 5 speaks to this issue:

17 The elders who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of double honor, especially those whose work is preaching and teaching. 18 For Scripture says, “Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain,” and “The worker deserves his wages.”
 

emekrus

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To me it seems like you are getting caught up in your own pre-conceived ideas about how much a minister should make and how much he should get paid. God supplies many different ministers with many different personalities and many different strong points, all in an effort to reach the many different peoples. If a certain minister charges a minimum amount, or wishes to only minister to a congregation of a certain size and you are uncomfortable with his needs, choose a different minister. Simple as that.

Being a business owner, I must admit that I almost laughed out loud when you said how "he" could simply start a business that does not interfere with his ministry, since the vast majority of business owners that I know spend 50 - 70 hours a week trying to get the business up and running and hopefully earning a profit. Then you continued on and said how he could simply grow this "part time business" until it had so many employees that he could just take a supervisory role. :) If only it worked like that.

So, really, my thoughts are that for some people, some congregations, some celebrations, there will be certain ministers that will be called and others that will be passed on for one reason or the other.

It is often said "you get what you pay for". Would you rather that an evangelist/minister/preacher fully bathed your event in prayer, fasted and listened for the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and came completely full, energized and ready to minister, or would you prefer that he came tired and worn out after a week of running his business so that he can pay all of his obligations and gave your event whatever he happened to have left?

Just some thoughts to ponder.

God bless,
Mike
Well Sir, if I got you right, you are in support of a minister actually charging for his ministry. My question is, on what scriptural ground should these charges be made. Can you cite a biblical minister that charged for his ministry? I am not saying freewill giving is not acceptable.

Then as for combining business with ministry successfully, how come the Apostle Paul thrived at this tremendously? You know, he had one of the greatest ministry in scriptures.
 

emekrus

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#7
1 Timothy 5 speaks to this issue:

17 The elders who direct the affairs of the church well are worthy of double honor, especially those whose work is preaching and teaching. 18 For Scripture says, “Do not muzzle an ox while it is treading out the grain,” and “The worker deserves his wages.”
I did cite this same scripture as well.
 

trofimus

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One thing is expenditures of a minister and the other thing is when a minister is greedy.

Wordly capitalistic standards should not be applied inside Christian service.
 

Zmouth

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If you didn't have any responsibility for paying the expenses then what business was it of yours how much your sister in law and her husband agreed to pay the gospel musician to speak at the funeral. (Not sure why anyone would ask a musician to speak at a funeral unless they were going to minister with their instrument.) Sounds like you either asked how much the funeral cost which really wouldn't be anyone's business but the immediate family, so they were yanking your chain by saying an amount that you would consider outrageous or they told you just to wave the amount in your face.
 

emekrus

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If you didn't have any responsibility for paying the expenses then what business was it of yours how much your sister in law and her husband agreed to pay the gospel musician to speak at the funeral. (Not sure why anyone would ask a musician to speak at a funeral unless they were going to minister with their instrument.) Sounds like you either asked how much the funeral cost which really wouldn't be anyone's business but the immediate family, so they were yanking your chain by saying an amount that you would consider outrageous or they told you just to wave the amount in your face.
Well, it wasn't my business how much was spent, after all, the family in question is a wealthy family. I didn't mind if they of their own free will gave her a billion.

But my business was that she had to charge for her free gift of-- praise and worship, just like so many other ministers. Which is certainly against scriptural injunction. She actually came to minister in praise and worship, not speaking. Doesn't it upset you that someone would have to charge in order to come and praise and worship God?

And about yanking, absolutely no! My sister in law's husband, is certainly not a fan of hype.
 

OneFaith

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"Freely you have received so freely give."

Jesus overthrew money tables in His church with righteous anger! That should be your first clue. We give to God by giving in church. God then portions out HIS money to the poor, the preacher, and minitries of the church, etc. Even in the old testament the levites were to be given certain portions of the meat sacrificed. But Elis sons were wicked and took more than their rightful share. It did not turn out too well for them. Sooner or later such people will receive God's wrath.
 

emekrus

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"Freely you have received so freely give."

Jesus overthrew money tables in His church with righteous anger! That should be your first clue. We give to God by giving in church. God then portions out HIS money to the poor, the preacher, and minitries of the church, etc. Even in the old testament the levites were to be given certain portions of the meat sacrificed. But Elis sons were wicked and took more than their rightful share. It did not turn out too well for them. Sooner or later such people will receive God's wrath.
Absolutely my sister, but the essence of this article is for them to avert the wrath.
 

NayborBear

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A few months ago, as we attended the funeral of my sister in law’s husband’s father, a renowned gospel musician was invited. She ministered gloriously. But a few weeks after the funeral, as I visited my sister in law and her husband, we got discussing about the funeral and the expenses…

As we chatted along, we talked about the gospel musician that was invited to the funeral. And my sister in law’s husband disclosed to me that the gospel musician actually charged over a million Nigerian Naira to come and minister. On hearing that, I was very infuriated and bewildered. And right there and then, I expressed my disappointment and indignation.

Then as I looked up to God for a topic to post for discussion this week, the Lord impressed strongly in my Spirit to post about the erroneous ministration charges by his ministers.

The Unscriptural Charges of Ministers

Over the years, I have heard it said that some ministers of the gospel, including: Apostles, Prophets, Pastors, Teachers, Evangelists and Christian musicians charge huge amounts of money in order to go and minister where they are invited to. I didn’t take it much seriously until I have been able to confirm the validity of this particular report.

I have been able to confirm that ministry charges are not only the practice of travelling ministers, but also non-travelling ministers. Many a gospel ministers, including music ministers, don’t move to anywhere for ministry invitation, except a specified amount of money is credited into their accounts.

Then for some, they don’t accept invitations to small congregations knowing they won’t be well paid or given a large honorarium. Then on the other hand, in most local churches, to be able to access the ministers for personal ministration-such as counselling—you must have to obtain a form with good amount of money.

If you don’t have money to obtain the form, you won’t be allowed to see the ministers. And in some cases, during normal meetings, those members who do not have money are excluded from certain ministrations. Then recently, I also hear that people now charge to minister as Choristers in Churches, especially in a starting up local Church. All these stated cases above, are just to name but a few…

And as it is, these practices are increasing on daily basis, both in big and small churches. And of course, these practices do not have any scriptural basis. Hence, they are absolutely unscriptural. And any minister, indulging in such practices with eternity-with Christ—in view should quickly desist.

And any Christian patronizing such ministers and ministries should be wise enough to quickly desist as well. Even if the minister or ministry is valid, we do have a right and spiritual responsibility to reject their ministries; because the ministry gifts of God are not for sale. It is pervasion to charge for any ministry gift.

The Scriptural Due of a Christian Minister

“And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
These twelve Jesus sent forth into the way of the Gentiles, and into any City of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go, preach, saying, the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils; freely you have received, freely give.Provide neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat”—Matthew 10:1,5-10

And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you”—Luke 10:8.

From the above scriptures we can clearly see the biblical prototype of a travelling minister, and what is expected of him or her. And also what is expected to be provided for him or her.

Translating the above scripture to modern time, we see that the basic things a travelling minister is due for his ministration are: a shelter (any kind of shelter), Meal(any manageable Meal), and then the minister’s fare should also be provided.

And it is not still out of place for the local church to raise an offering for the minister’s honorarium. But that should be left to the prerogative of the local church. Apart from the basic needs, such as transportation, shelter and food, a minister need not demand for other thing.

After providing for at least the basic needs, the minister should be content. If an honorarium is also added above his basic needs, it is not a sin to accept it. But on the other hand, if it is not given, the minister should also be content to have had the privilege to have ministered to the people of God. And not be offended, and decide not to go and minister there again because he was not given honorarium. That’s a wrong spiritual attitude; because he is a minister of God…

It is true the scripture just quoted says, a workman is worthy of his meat, but his meat giver is his employer, God. Not man. Even though God most of the time uses men…

Then for the local Church minister, he is to minister to all and sundry, with no discrepancies.

He is to minister freely to the poor as well as the rich. He is to minister without charging anyone a dime. Freely he has received and freely he is to give. But then he can receive honorarium from the tithe and offerings as a labourer in the word (1Timothy 5:17-18). And if someone is led of his own free will to sow monetary or material seed to him, of course, he can also receive it.

After all these, and the minister sees that what he receives is not enough income to meet all his or her responsibility, then let him set up a business. A minister setting up a business is not a sin. He can engage in a business that does not encroach into his ministry time (There are many of them these days).

Then eventually, as the business grows, he can employ people to manage the business, while he just plays a supervisory role…
All these are the scriptural ways for a minister to earn his due for a living.

If you have any question, reply or comment, you can post it below for discussion.

Emeke Odili

IMHO "ANY, or EVERY" "minister" of the Gospel of Christ that is "worth their hire", (includes musicians as well), "COULD ask, but NOT DEMAND" any monetary compensations for their "labors in the Lord!" But, SHOULD accept what is generally referred to as a "love offering", or voluntary contributions, for, or towards their labors, or efforts, in whichever endeavor, they think/feel/heard their "call" to do! (again) IMHO, If their "call" is of God, and God "gives" the "increase" FOR such "laborers?" There SHOULD be NO NEED of ANYONE to ask, let alone DEMAND compensation for their laborings!
 

emekrus

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IMHO "ANY, or EVERY" "minister" of the Gospel of Christ that is "worth their hire", (includes musicians as well), "COULD ask, but NOT DEMAND" any monetary compensations for their "labors in the Lord!" But, SHOULD accept what is generally referred to as a "love offering", or voluntary contributions, for, or towards their labors, or efforts, in whichever endeavor, they think/feel/heard their "call" to do! (again) IMHO, If their "call" is of God, and God "gives" the "increase" FOR such "laborers?" There SHOULD be NO NEED of ANYONE to ask, let alone DEMAND compensation for their laborings!
Yes he can ask for the cost of his expenses. Not for his hire. Cos he is not hired by any man. If he is invited to minister by any ministry, the inviting ministry or whoever, doesn't owe him his hire. They owe him honour. And that as they deem fit.

He is to request his wage from his caller or employer--God.
 

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Some great thoughts, Emekrus, and I mostly agree with your heart here. Many who are charging for their services are using Christianity as a way to get rich.

On the other hand, the Bible is clear that the workman is worthy of his hire. If a local church wants to give a pastor a set salary or pay to have a special musician or evangelist to come minister, I do not think there is anything Biblically wrong with this.

It might be easy to say to an evangelist - Have faith that God will supply your financial needs!!

But maybe the church who hires the evangelist needs to have faith that God will supply the amount the evangelist needs to be able to come and minister!
 

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Some great thoughts, Emekrus, and I mostly agree with your heart here. Many who are charging for their services are using Christianity as a way to get rich.

On the other hand, the Bible is clear that the workman is worthy of his hire. If a local church wants to give a pastor a set salary or pay to have a special musician or evangelist to come minister, I do not think there is anything Biblically wrong with this.

It might be easy to say to an evangelist - Have faith that God will supply your financial needs!!

But maybe the church who hires the evangelist needs to have faith that God will supply the amount the evangelist needs to be able to come and minister!
That's the point, 'the amount he needs' not 'the amount he wants' that's the great difference...
 
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That's the point, 'the amount he needs' not 'the amount he wants' that's the great difference...
It is not up to you or to me to determine what a minister "needs". That is between them and God. If they are abusing it and hurting God's children, rest assured that God Himself will deal with it. It is not your concern, nor is it mine.

If said minister is too expensive for you, then bring in somebody else. Simple as that.

Do not risk being in the wrong and railing against an anointed servant of God because of your own preconceived notions of how much they should get "paid" or God Himself may wind up having to deal with you.

If you believe them to be in the wrong why in the world would you want them at your event in the first place?
 

emekrus

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It is not up to you or to me to determine what a minister "needs". That is between them and God. If they are abusing it and hurting God's children, rest assured that God Himself will deal with it. It is not your concern, nor is it mine.

If said minister is too expensive for you, then bring in somebody else. Simple as that.

Do not risk being in the wrong and railing against an anointed servant of God because of your own preconceived notions of how much they should get "paid" or God Himself may wind up having to deal with you.

If you believe them to be in the wrong why in the world would you want them at your event in the first place?
This is exactly where the problem lie. Things are going wrong in God's leadership, and any attempt to correct is quickly threatened with God's wrath. But you know, the Apostle Paul found the need to rebuke Peter, even though Peter was the first and senior and anointed minister.

Well, about being wrong, if I am, the Holy Ghost will quickly convict me and I won't hesitate to get off his way. So am not scared of that...

The onus is on me to deliver any message the Lord impresses in my spirit with all boldness.
 

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A few months ago, as we attended the funeral of my sister in law’s husband’s father, a renowned gospel musician was invited. She ministered gloriously. But a few weeks after the funeral, as I visited my sister in law and her husband, we got discussing about the funeral and the expenses…

As we chatted along, we talked about the gospel musician that was invited to the funeral. And my sister in law’s husband disclosed to me that the gospel musician actually charged over a million Nigerian Naira to come and minister. On hearing that, I was very infuriated and bewildered. And right there and then, I expressed my disappointment and indignation.

Then as I looked up to God for a topic to post for discussion this week, the Lord impressed strongly in my Spirit to post about the erroneous ministration charges by his ministers.

The Unscriptural Charges of Ministers

Over the years, I have heard it said that some ministers of the gospel, including: Apostles, Prophets, Pastors, Teachers, Evangelists and Christian musicians charge huge amounts of money in order to go and minister where they are invited to. I didn’t take it much seriously until I have been able to confirm the validity of this particular report.

I have been able to confirm that ministry charges are not only the practice of travelling ministers, but also non-travelling ministers. Many a gospel ministers, including music ministers, don’t move to anywhere for ministry invitation, except a specified amount of money is credited into their accounts.

Then for some, they don’t accept invitations to small congregations knowing they won’t be well paid or given a large honorarium. Then on the other hand, in most local churches, to be able to access the ministers for personal ministration-such as counselling—you must have to obtain a form with good amount of money.

If you don’t have money to obtain the form, you won’t be allowed to see the ministers. And in some cases, during normal meetings, those members who do not have money are excluded from certain ministrations. Then recently, I also hear that people now charge to minister as Choristers in Churches, especially in a starting up local Church. All these stated cases above, are just to name but a few…

And as it is, these practices are increasing on daily basis, both in big and small churches. And of course, these practices do not have any scriptural basis. Hence, they are absolutely unscriptural. And any minister, indulging in such practices with eternity-with Christ—in view should quickly desist.

And any Christian patronizing such ministers and ministries should be wise enough to quickly desist as well. Even if the minister or ministry is valid, we do have a right and spiritual responsibility to reject their ministries; because the ministry gifts of God are not for sale. It is pervasion to charge for any ministry gift.

The Scriptural Due of a Christian Minister

“And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
These twelve Jesus sent forth into the way of the Gentiles, and into any City of the Samaritans enter ye not: But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And as ye go, preach, saying, the kingdom of heaven is at hand. Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils; freely you have received, freely give.Provide neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat”—Matthew 10:1,5-10

And into whatsoever city ye enter, and they receive you, eat such things as are set before you”—Luke 10:8.

From the above scriptures we can clearly see the biblical prototype of a travelling minister, and what is expected of him or her. And also what is expected to be provided for him or her.

Translating the above scripture to modern time, we see that the basic things a travelling minister is due for his ministration are: a shelter (any kind of shelter), Meal(any manageable Meal), and then the minister’s fare should also be provided.

And it is not still out of place for the local church to raise an offering for the minister’s honorarium. But that should be left to the prerogative of the local church. Apart from the basic needs, such as transportation, shelter and food, a minister need not demand for other thing.

After providing for at least the basic needs, the minister should be content. If an honorarium is also added above his basic needs, it is not a sin to accept it. But on the other hand, if it is not given, the minister should also be content to have had the privilege to have ministered to the people of God. And not be offended, and decide not to go and minister there again because he was not given honorarium. That’s a wrong spiritual attitude; because he is a minister of God…

It is true the scripture just quoted says, a workman is worthy of his meat, but his meat giver is his employer, God. Not man. Even though God most of the time uses men…

Then for the local Church minister, he is to minister to all and sundry, with no discrepancies.

He is to minister freely to the poor as well as the rich. He is to minister without charging anyone a dime. Freely he has received and freely he is to give. But then he can receive honorarium from the tithe and offerings as a labourer in the word (1Timothy 5:17-18). And if someone is led of his own free will to sow monetary or material seed to him, of course, he can also receive it.

After all these, and the minister sees that what he receives is not enough income to meet all his or her responsibility, then let him set up a business. A minister setting up a business is not a sin. He can engage in a business that does not encroach into his ministry time (There are many of them these days).

Then eventually, as the business grows, he can employ people to manage the business, while he just plays a supervisory role…
All these are the scriptural ways for a minister to earn his due for a living.

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Emeke Odili
They knew before hand so if they didn't want to buy this product they shouldn't have. There is worse things go on in ministry believe me but I'm with you it seems outrageous that ministers would charge to minister at a funeral. I have never asked or charged for a funeral, wedding, baptism, counsel. I have recieved pay for it based on the person wanting to give and depending on the situation I don't want them to feel obligated either.