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Prove to me that what you describe, is what the bible describe. Every time I see the bible speak on the matter, it's not the rolling around on the floor having a seizure spouting gibberish that most Pentecostals proclaim it to be.
Acts chapter 2 is very clear that speaking in tongues is referring to human languages.
1 When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2 Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4 All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues[a] as the Spirit enabled them.
5 Now there were staying in Jerusalem God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven. 6 When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken. 7 Utterly amazed, they asked: “Aren’t all these who are speaking Galileans? 8 Then how is it that each of us hears them in our native language? 9 Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, 10 Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome 11 (both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!” 12 Amazed and perplexed, they asked one another, “What does this mean?”
13 Some, however, made fun of them and said, “They have had too much wine.”
Acts chapter 2 is very clear that speaking in tongues is referring to human languages.
1 When the day of Pentecost came, they were all together in one place. 2 Suddenly a sound like the blowing of a violent wind came from heaven and filled the whole house where they were sitting. 3 They saw what seemed to be tongues of fire that separated and came to rest on each of them. 4 All of them were filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak in other tongues[a] as the Spirit enabled them.
5 Now there were staying in Jerusalem God-fearing Jews from every nation under heaven. 6 When they heard this sound, a crowd came together in bewilderment, because each one heard their own language being spoken. 7 Utterly amazed, they asked: “Aren’t all these who are speaking Galileans? 8 Then how is it that each of us hears them in our native language? 9 Parthians, Medes and Elamites; residents of Mesopotamia, Judea and Cappadocia, Pontus and Asia, 10 Phrygia and Pamphylia, Egypt and the parts of Libya near Cyrene; visitors from Rome 11 (both Jews and converts to Judaism); Cretans and Arabs—we hear them declaring the wonders of God in our own tongues!” 12 Amazed and perplexed, they asked one another, “What does this mean?”
13 Some, however, made fun of them and said, “They have had too much wine.”
I added nothing to scripture. I pointed out something that wasn't there 
But while we're on the subject...
New International Version (©1984)
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
New Living Translation (©2007)
If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn't love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
English Standard Version (©2001)
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
International Standard Version (©2008)
If I speak in the languages of humans and angels but have no love, I have become a reverberating gong or a clashing cymbal.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
If I shall speak with every human and Angelic language and have no love in me, I shall be clanging brass or a noise-making cymbal.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
I may speak in the languages of humans and of angels. But if I don't have love, I am a loud gong or a clashing cymbal.
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not love, I am become as sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal.
American King James Version
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
American Standard Version
If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am become sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal.
Douay-Rheims Bible
IF I speak with the tongues of men, and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
Darby Bible Translation
If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal.
English Revised Version
If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am become sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal.
Webster's Bible Translation
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
Weymouth New Testament
If I can speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but am destitute of Love, I have but become a loud-sounding trumpet or a clanging cymbal.
World English Bible
If I speak with the languages of men and of angels, but don't have love, I have become sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal.
Young's Literal Translation
If with the tongues of men and of messengers I speak, and have not love, I have become brass sounding, or a cymbal tinkling;
Yes, most translations say "IF". And you're probably going to say that Paul was just giving an example, that nobody can really speak in tongues of angels. If that's the basis of your argument, then suit yourself.
But while we're on the subject...
New International Version (©1984)
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am only a resounding gong or a clanging cymbal.
New Living Translation (©2007)
If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn't love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
English Standard Version (©2001)
If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
New American Standard Bible (©1995)
If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal.
King James Bible (Cambridge Ed.)
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
International Standard Version (©2008)
If I speak in the languages of humans and angels but have no love, I have become a reverberating gong or a clashing cymbal.
Aramaic Bible in Plain English (©2010)
If I shall speak with every human and Angelic language and have no love in me, I shall be clanging brass or a noise-making cymbal.
GOD'S WORD® Translation (©1995)
I may speak in the languages of humans and of angels. But if I don't have love, I am a loud gong or a clashing cymbal.
King James 2000 Bible (©2003)
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not love, I am become as sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal.
American King James Version
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
American Standard Version
If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am become sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal.
Douay-Rheims Bible
IF I speak with the tongues of men, and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
Darby Bible Translation
If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am become sounding brass or a clanging cymbal.
English Revised Version
If I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am become sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal.
Webster's Bible Translation
Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels, and have not charity, I am become as sounding brass, or a tinkling cymbal.
Weymouth New Testament
If I can speak with the tongues of men and of angels, but am destitute of Love, I have but become a loud-sounding trumpet or a clanging cymbal.
World English Bible
If I speak with the languages of men and of angels, but don't have love, I have become sounding brass, or a clanging cymbal.
Young's Literal Translation
If with the tongues of men and of messengers I speak, and have not love, I have become brass sounding, or a cymbal tinkling;
Yes, most translations say "IF". And you're probably going to say that Paul was just giving an example, that nobody can really speak in tongues of angels. If that's the basis of your argument, then suit yourself.
J
@Popclick
Given the context of the passage, and being part of the Looooovvveee chapter, it much more strongly appears to be an example of hyperbole. Paul is expressing the importance of speaking in love.
I do not know if anyone can speak with the tongues of angels, or even what this would be. I do not think it safe to assume what this would be, which is what many Pentecostals do. There is simply the assumption that what they do, is what Paul speaks of when he says "tongues of angels".
This commentary comes from Albert Barns.
It seems reasonable to me, also with the citation of 2 Corinthians 12:4, adds some light to the situation I think. I do not know though.
Given the context of the passage, and being part of the Looooovvveee chapter, it much more strongly appears to be an example of hyperbole. Paul is expressing the importance of speaking in love.
I do not know if anyone can speak with the tongues of angels, or even what this would be. I do not think it safe to assume what this would be, which is what many Pentecostals do. There is simply the assumption that what they do, is what Paul speaks of when he says "tongues of angels".
This commentary comes from Albert Barns.
It seems reasonable to me, also with the citation of 2 Corinthians 12:4, adds some light to the situation I think. I do not know though.
I have heard tounges several time at a prayer group I went to when I was young.
It sounded like music from heaven, and no one was rolling around on the floor.
They had an interpiter, always, one time I heard the words as though they were spoken in english, so I shared the message.
I do pray in tounges myself, never have out loud, simply because for me it is a private prayer in the Holy Spirit, where my soul can speak to what I do not know how to utter, speaking from the heart in Jesus to God Our Father.
I believe scriptures speaks to it as the groanings of the spirit.
For all I know it could very well be a language, but I have never been moved to speak it publicly.
These gifts are as they are given, simply because they are the gifts set before us by God Our Father though His Holy Spirit.
What is sad is when one rejects the gifts, because these gifts are still with us and given to us, by the Holy Spirit in Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh.
How many here have spoken that God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow?
Its not about what one has or thinks they should have, it is about the gifts of the Holy Spirit given, to serve us, comfort us and to glorify God!
God bless
pickles
It sounded like music from heaven, and no one was rolling around on the floor.
They had an interpiter, always, one time I heard the words as though they were spoken in english, so I shared the message.
I do pray in tounges myself, never have out loud, simply because for me it is a private prayer in the Holy Spirit, where my soul can speak to what I do not know how to utter, speaking from the heart in Jesus to God Our Father.
I believe scriptures speaks to it as the groanings of the spirit.
For all I know it could very well be a language, but I have never been moved to speak it publicly.
These gifts are as they are given, simply because they are the gifts set before us by God Our Father though His Holy Spirit.
What is sad is when one rejects the gifts, because these gifts are still with us and given to us, by the Holy Spirit in Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh.
How many here have spoken that God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow?
Its not about what one has or thinks they should have, it is about the gifts of the Holy Spirit given, to serve us, comfort us and to glorify God!
God bless
pickles
I have heard tounges several time at a prayer group I went to when I was young.
It sounded like music from heaven, and no one was rolling around on the floor.
They had an interpiter, always, one time I heard the words as though they were spoken in english, so I shared the message.
I do pray in tounges myself, never have out loud, simply because for me it is a private prayer in the Holy Spirit, where my soul can speak to what I do not know how to utter, speaking from the heart in Jesus to God Our Father.
I believe scriptures speaks to it as the groanings of the spirit.
For all I know it could very well be a language, but I have never been moved to speak it publicly.
These gifts are as they are given, simply because they are the gifts set before us by God Our Father though His Holy Spirit.
What is sad is when one rejects the gifts, because these gifts are still with us and given to us, by the Holy Spirit in Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh.
How many here have spoken that God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow?
Its not about what one has or thinks they should have, it is about the gifts of the Holy Spirit given, to serve us, comfort us and to glorify God!
God bless
pickles
It sounded like music from heaven, and no one was rolling around on the floor.
They had an interpiter, always, one time I heard the words as though they were spoken in english, so I shared the message.
I do pray in tounges myself, never have out loud, simply because for me it is a private prayer in the Holy Spirit, where my soul can speak to what I do not know how to utter, speaking from the heart in Jesus to God Our Father.
I believe scriptures speaks to it as the groanings of the spirit.
For all I know it could very well be a language, but I have never been moved to speak it publicly.
These gifts are as they are given, simply because they are the gifts set before us by God Our Father though His Holy Spirit.
What is sad is when one rejects the gifts, because these gifts are still with us and given to us, by the Holy Spirit in Jesus Christ is Lord come in the flesh.
How many here have spoken that God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow?
Its not about what one has or thinks they should have, it is about the gifts of the Holy Spirit given, to serve us, comfort us and to glorify God!
God bless
pickles
And about the gifts being present today... I don't care what different "teachers" and doctrines say, if it's from our Heavenly Father, I would LOVE to experience it. I want everything He will give me.
I do miss that prayer group..been over twenty years though.
I agree, God Our Father's will and perpose will not be stopped.
And I believe the false, God will weed it all out.
Simply because He desires His gifts to be used.
And I do hope to hear the true gifts , (tounges) of the Holy Spirit again one day.
It trully was heavenly music.
God bless
pickles
I agree, God Our Father's will and perpose will not be stopped.
And I believe the false, God will weed it all out.
Simply because He desires His gifts to be used.
And I do hope to hear the true gifts , (tounges) of the Holy Spirit again one day.
It trully was heavenly music.
God bless
pickles
A
I'm with Jimmy Diggs here. The speaking of tongues in the Bible is clearly the speaking real, foreign languages that the speaker did no understand before. There is no one in the Bible every uttering jibberish,
But for those who do think unintellgible sounds are tongues somehow, why is it that churches will have hundreds of people screaming in "tongues" even though the Bible says it should be done by two or three at the most, with one or providing intepretation? And what about this:
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
Yet, in many churches women are speaking "in tongues" all the time.
I think one of the problems with this issue is the context of the scripture being used. Most of the book of 1 Corinthians is a condemnation, not an encouragement. This was a completely carnal church that was making a ton of spiritual error. When Paul is addressing tongues in chapter 14, he is criticizing them, not trying to encourage them. He's actually trying to get them to chill out with it because it was being done for show and was turning into a bizarre display for newcomers who did not understand the languages being spoken anyways. And this is precisely what is happening in churches all over the world today.
But for those who do think unintellgible sounds are tongues somehow, why is it that churches will have hundreds of people screaming in "tongues" even though the Bible says it should be done by two or three at the most, with one or providing intepretation? And what about this:
Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law.
Yet, in many churches women are speaking "in tongues" all the time.
I think one of the problems with this issue is the context of the scripture being used. Most of the book of 1 Corinthians is a condemnation, not an encouragement. This was a completely carnal church that was making a ton of spiritual error. When Paul is addressing tongues in chapter 14, he is criticizing them, not trying to encourage them. He's actually trying to get them to chill out with it because it was being done for show and was turning into a bizarre display for newcomers who did not understand the languages being spoken anyways. And this is precisely what is happening in churches all over the world today.