Spiritual warfare and the spiritual realm

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Ariel82

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Is this what we're left with ? Believe and agree with those who say that today's tongues are authentic ... or being one who labels them as liars or deviant ? I've come to like you Lucy so I truly don't want to offend. But I can't lie to myself either. The tongues of the apostolic era were heard by the unbelievers present in their own native languages. They were a sign to the unbeliever. I can't walk a tightrope on this issue. It would make me untrue to myself. That said, my feelings for you remain unchanged.
I have heard of missionaries given the gift of tongues and converting whole villages to Jesus.

So I believe that God still does give the gift of tongues...but I disagree that if you don't have the gift of tongues you don't have the Holy spirit.
 
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Ariel82

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This is a great blessing to walk by the Word. But, there are many realms of glory and there may come that day when you are stirred to go a little higher. To walk as Jesus walked. All the giftings and powers were in Him. We can obtain whatever amount we desire according to the call on our life. He desires to give us our desires.
Only if what we desire is God's will to be done in this world and in our lives.

Otherwise if we pray for things to fulfill our lust or desires of this world, God calls us doubleminded and adulterers lusting after the world and not Him.
 
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Ariel82

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I love this Bill...I was wondering recently about praying...A few days ago I start of Dear heavenly Father, and became dumb, I could not think of anything to pray, it is happening quiet a bit and it alarms me:(...

Your post has shown me that it is not just me, I wonder how common this is...xox...
There is a Bible verse that says that the Holy spirit interferes for us whenever all we can do is groan. Let me find it. It is good to be equipped with God's words.

Romans 8:26 ►

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In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans.
 
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Ariel82

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On the topic of spiritual warfare and the spirit realm, I could say alot, but prefer to do it privately with people I know love me and that I trust to pray, who show God's love through their patience, kindness and gentleness.

So if you are interested I can pm you my testimony.

God bless and keep you.
 

RickyZ

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There is a Bible verse that says that the Holy spirit interferes for us whenever all we can do is groan. Let me find it. It is good to be equipped with God's words.

Romans 8:26 ►

New International Version
In the same way, the Spirit helps us in our weakness. We do not know what we ought to pray for, but the Spirit himself intercedes for us through wordless groans.
Maybe you meant intercedes ... but interferes does have a certain ring to it ;)
 

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Only if what we desire is God's will to be done in this world and in our lives.

Otherwise if we pray for things to fulfill our lust or desires of this world, God calls us doubleminded and adulterers lusting after the world and not Him.



Thanks Stones and yes I run to Jesus every day of my life. My help cometh from the Lord. I can do all things through Christ my Lord.

My Comforter is the Holy Spirit - my shield and defender.
Here are my words that were in that link you referred to.

I'm not sure where you got that post from. The only desire we should have is to do the Will of God. That is my stance
 

wolfwint

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Joe 2:28 And it shall come to pass afterward, that I will pour out my spirit upon all flesh; and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, your old men shall dream dreams, your young men shall see visions:

Ac 2:17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:

Peter cites accurately Joel 2 and matches the Spirit upon all flesh which includes Gentiles and delineates it from your sons and your daughters.

All flesh is saved by the pouring out of the Holy Spirit but Israel is chosen for evidence of gifts as a witness to them of Jehovah Gods provision of their Messiah.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Hi Roger, i cant really agree with your view from Joel 2. If you read the verses before 28, you will find that before the outpouring of the Spirit will take place Israel is living in a prosper and blessed situation. A situation which we cant find in Israel till today. That Peter mentioned this in acts may be because it partly is fullfiĺled through giving the Holy Spirit to all believers in Jesus Christ. But the total fullfilling of Joel 2, 28 will be in the future.