St. Valentine

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joint-heir

joint-heir

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charisenexcelcis said:
OK, Saint Joint-Heir. If I choose to call you a saint does it make you less so? Do you accept that Peter, Paul, John and James are saints? Why, when the RCC calls them so? Does that make Peter a pedophile? So research Valentinus. What can be known about him is that he refused to obey the order by the Roman emperor to stop performing Christian marriages and was martyred for that. No indication that he was a homosexual or a pedophile.
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CALL ME ANYTHING YOU LIKE
THE DAY YOU BEGIN TO RECOGNIZE ME AS A SAINT
AND HAVE OTHERS PRAY AND SEEK MY HELP
YOU JUST CROSSED THE THRESH HOLD OF RIGHT AND WRONG
THIS IS THE HIGHEST ACT OF TREASON TOWARDS GOD ALMIGHTY
THIS IS IDOLATRY
FOR
GOD ALONE AND NO ONE ELSE EVER ARE WE TO PRAY TO FOR ANYTHING
AND
FOR YOU TO VOTE TO MAKE ME A SAINT IS UNGODLY AS WELL
WHO ARE YOU OR ANY OF US
TO KNOW THE POSITION OF MEN / WOMEN IN THE EYES OF GOD...?
 
joint-heir

joint-heir

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Harley_Angel said:
Joint-Heir, if I ever heard words like that come out of my priest's mouth I would be appalled. There was so much hate, judgement, and pure ignorance in that one post to fill a bucket. We are called to preach the Truth, and calling a bunch of people homo pedophiles is not preaching the Truth, it's being rude. If a new person came and read what you just wrote, ESPECIALLY if that person was Roman Catholic, I can only imagine how quick they would leave here.
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2/3 OF MY CHURCH ARE FILLED WITH PEOPLE THAT ONCE BELIEVED AS YOU DO
WANT TO KNOW WHY THEY CHANGED...?
SOMEONE STOOD UP AND SHOWED A CLAIM THAT WAS FACT AND AT FIRST WHEN THEY WERE APPAULLED THEY SHOOK IT OFF, BUT SOON LOOKED INTO WHAT THIS INDIVIDUAL HAD SAID. AFTER SEEING THOSE WORDS HAD MANY TRUTHS TO IT
THEY MADE UP THEIR MINDS TO FIND A WAY BY WHICH GOD IS FIRST IN ALL THINGS
AND THE CHURCH IS NOT BASED UPON FAVOR, MONEY, AND POSITION...
 
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charisenexcelcis

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joint-heir said:
CALL ME ANYTHING YOU LIKE
THE DAY YOU BEGIN TO RECOGNIZE ME AS A SAINT
AND HAVE OTHERS PRAY AND SEEK MY HELP
YOU JUST CROSSED THE THRESH HOLD OF RIGHT AND WRONG
THIS IS THE HIGHEST ACT OF TREASON TOWARDS GOD ALMIGHTY
THIS IS IDOLATRY
FOR
GOD ALONE AND NO ONE ELSE EVER ARE WE TO PRAY TO FOR ANYTHING
AND
FOR YOU TO VOTE TO MAKE ME A SAINT IS UNGODLY AS WELL
WHO ARE YOU OR ANY OF US
TO KNOW THE POSITION OF MEN / WOMEN IN THE EYES OF GOD...?
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My point is that what other men chose to do hundreds of years later has no bearing on the man himself. And if I choose to call you a saint, it would only be a complement. Your statement was not just a commentary on the Roman Catholic Church, but a hateful comment on a man who apparently chose to obey God rather than man.
You seem to favor comments that are hurtful more than truthful.
 
joint-heir

joint-heir

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charisenexcelcis said:
It is not Valentinus that I am speaking to, but to your own manner of speech.
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MY MANNER OF SPEECH IS DIRECT AND ABRUFF
ITS ABOUT TIME WE STOPPED BEATING AROUND THE BUSH
AND GET DIRECTLY TO THE POINT IN ALL THINGS
NOW
IS THE RCC THE ONLY CHURCH WITH ISSUES ABSOLUTELY NOT
BUT
THEY ARE THE ONLY CHURCH THAT CREATED THE SYSTEM WE ARE DISCUSSING
WHICH IS A LIE TOWARDS GOD ALMIGHTY
 
joint-heir

joint-heir

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charisenexcelcis said:
My point is that what other men chose to do hundreds of years later has no bearing on the man himself. And if I choose to call you a saint, it would only be a complement. Your statement was not just a commentary on the Roman Catholic Church, but a hateful comment on a man who apparently chose to obey God rather than man.
You seem to favor comments that are hurtful more than truthful.
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HOW IS IT A COMPLIMENT BROTHER...?
MANY ARE NOW GOING TO COME TO THIS SO-CALLED SAINT AND PRAY DAILY
AND IF SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THEIR LIVES
THEY WILL GIVE GLORY TO THIS SAINT WHO DOES NOT DESERVE IT
TELL ME SOMETHING BROTHER
IF A PERSON IS A SAINT
DON'T YA THINK THEY ARE APAULLED
FOR ALL THOSE WORSHIPPING THEM AND NOT GOD...?
A TRUE SAINT IN THEIR ABSOLUTE RIGHT MIND
WOULD DISCOURAGE THIS IDOLATRY
AND
IN SPEAKING ABOUT A FLAWED SYSTEM
YOUR SPEAKING ABOUT GIVING DEAD PEOPLE TITLES
WHERE DOES YOUR LOYALTY LIE AT...?
 
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charisenexcelcis

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joint-heir said:
MY MANNER OF SPEECH IS DIRECT AND ABRUFF
ITS ABOUT TIME WE STOPPED BEATING AROUND THE BUSH
AND GET DIRECTLY TO THE POINT IN ALL THINGS
NOW
IS THE RCC THE ONLY CHURCH WITH ISSUES ABSOLUTELY NOT
BUT
THEY ARE THE ONLY CHURCH THAT CREATED THE SYSTEM WE ARE DISCUSSING
WHICH IS A LIE TOWARDS GOD ALMIGHTY
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Your manner of speech is crude and hateful. What we are discussing, in case you didn't notice is who Valentinus was.
 
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charisenexcelcis

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joint-heir said:
HOW IS IT A COMPLIMENT BROTHER...?
MANY ARE NOW GOING TO COME TO THIS SO-CALLED SAINT AND PRAY DAILY
AND IF SOMETHING HAPPENS IN THEIR LIVES
THEY WILL GIVE GLORY TO THIS SAINT WHO DOES NOT DESERVE IT
TELL ME SOMETHING BROTHER
IF A PERSON IS A SAINT
DON'T YA THINK THEY ARE APAULLED
FOR ALL THOSE WORSHIPPING THEM AND NOT GOD...?
A TRUE SAINT IN THEIR ABSOLUTE RIGHT MIND
WOULD DISCOURAGE THIS IDOLATRY
AND
IN SPEAKING ABOUT A FLAWED SYSTEM
YOUR SPEAKING ABOUT GIVING DEAD PEOPLE TITLES
WHERE DOES YOUR LOYALTY LIE AT...?
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I am not afraid to call the believer a saint, for we are sanctified by the Holy Spirit. The Bible is not shy in calling the believer saints. There is no title that man can give to approach what God has given us in Christ (unless one is willing to blaspheme God Himself by calling us gods). As for where my loyalty lies, your attempt at intimidation means nothing. I am quite sure that unless I back down you will begin to call me names as that is your pattern. My loyalty is to God.
 
joint-heir

joint-heir

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charisenexcelcis said:
Your manner of speech is crude and hateful. What we are discussing, in case you didn't notice is who Valentinus was.
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HE WAS A MAN
WHO A GROUP OF MEN FELT THEY HAD GOD's INTEREST BY MAKING HIM A SAINT
AND THIS IS A FALLACY.......BOTTOM LINE

HAD THIS BEEN YOUR POSITION AND POINT
YOUR SPEECH AND WORDS MIGHT BE ACCEPTED IN THE SAME MANNER
SO
CONTINUE TO NURSE YOUR WOUNDS
BECAUSE
HE IS A SAINT ONLY DUE TO AN UNRIGHTEOUS AND UNGODLY SYSTEM
 
joint-heir

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charisenexcelcis said:
I am not afraid to call the believer a saint, for we are sanctified by the Holy Spirit. The Bible is not shy in calling the believer saints. There is no title that man can give to approach what God has given us in Christ (unless one is willing to blaspheme God Himself by calling us gods). As for where my loyalty lies, your attempt at intimidation means nothing. I am quite sure that unless I back down you will begin to call me names as that is your pattern. My loyalty is to God.
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ANYONE
THAT DOES THE WILL OF GOD AND DIES AND GOES TO HEAVEN IS A SAINT
BUT
WE DO NOT PRAY TO THEM
AND A SYSTEM THAT TEACHES THIS
IS BLASPHEMIS AND UNGODLY....... BOTTOM LINE
 
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charisenexcelcis

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joint-heir said:
HE WAS A MAN
WHO A GROUP OF MEN FELT THEY HAD GOD's INTEREST BY MAKING HIM A SAINT
AND THIS IS A FALLACY.......BOTTOM LINE

HAD THIS BEEN YOUR POSITION AND POINT
YOUR SPEECH AND WORDS MIGHT BE ACCEPTED IN THE SAME MANNER
SO
CONTINUE TO NURSE YOUR WOUNDS
BECAUSE
HE IS A SAINT ONLY DUE TO AN UNRIGHTEOUS AND UNGODLY SYSTEM
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He was a man who choose to follow God rather than man. He did not ask to go through thr RCC process of "sainthood" but he was a saint. He did nothing to deserve you hatred. "Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks." Consider what you have been spewing here.
As for wounds, you cannot intimidate me. His wounds take all of mine away...
 
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charisenexcelcis

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joint-heir said:
ANYONE
THAT DOES THE WILL OF GOD AND DIES AND GOES TO HEAVEN IS A SAINT
BUT
WE DO NOT PRAY TO THEM
AND A SYSTEM THAT TEACHES THIS
IS BLASPHEMIS AND UNGODLY....... BOTTOM LINE
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Absolutely, and you just slandered one who did the will of God.
 
aspen

aspen

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Joint-heir are you really this ignorant? Or simply anti-catholic?

I have enjoyed reading your posts in the past, but this is just......silly.
 
aspen

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joint-heir said:
MY MANNER OF SPEECH IS DIRECT AND ABRUFF
ITS ABOUT TIME WE STOPPED BEATING AROUND THE BUSH
AND GET DIRECTLY TO THE POINT IN ALL THINGS
NOW
IS THE RCC THE ONLY CHURCH WITH ISSUES ABSOLUTELY NOT
BUT
THEY ARE THE ONLY CHURCH THAT CREATED THE SYSTEM WE ARE DISCUSSING
WHICH IS A LIE TOWARDS GOD ALMIGHTY
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well except for the Anglicans, umm and the Orthodox...
 
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charisenexcelcis said:
He was a man who choose to follow God rather than man. He did not ask to go through thr RCC process of "sainthood" but he was a saint. He did nothing to deserve you hatred. "Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaks." Consider what you have been spewing here.
As for wounds, you cannot intimidate me. His wounds take all of mine away...
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I DONT HATE HIM OR ANYONE AT ALL
WHAT I DO HATE ALTHOUGH IS..........
PEOPLE WHO MIS-LEAD PEOPLE

IF HE MADE IT TO HEAVEN HE IS A SAINT
IF HE DIDNT HE IS NOT
I HAVE ONLY HAVE HERESAY TO SUPPOSEDLY KNOW WHAT HE DID OR WAS ABOUT
HONESTLY........I COULD CARELESS
I AM HAPPY IF HE IS IN HEAVEN AND SAD IF HE NEVER MADE IT
GIVE HIM A CROWN AND A THRONE..........WHO REALLY CARES
PRAY TO HIM AND WORSHIP HIM AND SEEK HIS WISDOM
BE MY GUEST
COMMIT IDOLATRY THAT IS YOUR DECISION NOT MINE

WHAT I WILL SAY
WHEN MARY MAGDALENE APPROACHED THE TOMB OF JESUS
THE ANGEL OF GOD ASKED HER.......
WHY SEEK YE THE LIVING AMONG THE DEAD...?
PRAYING TO A SAINT WOULD BE
WHY SEEK YE THE DEAD AMONG THE LIVING...?
 
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charisenexcelcis

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joint-heir said:
I DONT HATE HIM OR ANYONE AT ALL
WHAT I DO HATE ALTHOUGH IS..........
PEOPLE WHO MIS-LEAD PEOPLE

IF HE MADE IT TO HEAVEN HE IS A SAINT
IF HE DIDNT HE IS NOT
I HAVE ONLY HAVE HERESAY TO SUPPOSEDLY KNOW WHAT HE DID OR WAS ABOUT
HONESTLY........I COULD CARELESS
I AM HAPPY IF HE IS IN HEAVEN AND SAD IF HE NEVER MADE IT
GIVE HIM A CROWN AND A THRONE..........WHO REALLY CARES
PRAY TO HIM AND WORSHIP HIM AND SEEK HIS WISDOM
BE MY GUEST
COMMIT IDOLATRY THAT IS YOUR DECISION NOT MINE

WHAT I WILL SAY
WHEN MARY MAGDALENE APPROACHED THE TOMB OF JESUS
THE ANGEL OF GOD ASKED HER.......
WHY SEEK YE THE LIVING AMONG THE DEAD...?
PRAYING TO A SAINT WOULD BE
WHY SEEK YE THE DEAD AMONG THE LIVING...?
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You called him a pedophile. You knew nothing about him and you called him a pedophile.
 
aspen

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The RCC does not teach us to worship saints. If you are angry about people who are misleading other you must have a lot of self-hatred, because you are misleading people about RCC teachings.
 
aspen

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The RCC does not make saints.
 
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charisenexcelcis

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joint-heir said:
GOTTA BE HONEST HERE FOLKS
ST. V CAN KISS MY BUTTT AS FAR AS I AM CONCERNED
AND EVERY OTHER SO-CALLED SAINT IN THE ROMAN CATHOLIC SYSTEM
WHO PROBABLY WAS A PEDIFILE AND HOMO CAN TOO
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Not only did you call him a pedophile, you called him a homosexual and said that he could kiss your butt.
 
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