Statement of Faith Poll

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I believe:

  • there is one God, existing eternally in three persons, equal in power and glory.

    Votes: 8 66.7%

  • the entire Bible, Old and New Testaments, are the Word of God, fully inspired by the Holy Spirit an

    Votes: 10 83.3%

  • in God The Father, an infinite personal Spirit, perfect in holiness, wisdom, power and love.

    Votes: 11 91.7%

  • in God’s only begotten Son, conceived by the Holy Spirit. His virgin birth, sinless life, miracles,

    Votes: 11 91.7%

  • in the Holy Spirit, who indwells every believer at new birth. Who convicts of sin, corrects in right

    Votes: 11 91.7%

  • in original sin and all are under condemnation; that God regenerates those who repent of their sins

    Votes: 9 75.0%

  • in the universal church, the living, Spiritual Body of Christ, of which Christ is the Head and all r

    Votes: 8 66.7%

  • in the two ordinances that the Lord Jesus Christ committed to the Church: Water baptism and the Lord

    Votes: 9 75.0%

  • in the laying on of hands for the baptism of the Holy Spirit, for ordination of pastors, elders and

    Votes: 6 50.0%

  • in the visible, personal return of Jesus Christ to earth.

    Votes: 10 83.3%

  • That tongues is the intial evidence of the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

    Votes: 3 25.0%

  • not all speak in tongue.

    Votes: 8 66.7%

  • Tongues have passed away.

    Votes: 1 8.3%

  • in the pre-trib rapture ( Trib = Tribluation period of seven years)

    Votes: 3 25.0%

  • in the mid-trib rapture

    Votes: 1 8.3%

  • in the post-trib rapture

    Votes: 3 25.0%

  • oneness theology is correct

    Votes: 3 25.0%

  • that universalism is correct

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • in subordinationism of the God-head

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • once a person is sealed by the Holy Spirit, that believer will never lose their salvation

    Votes: 6 50.0%
  • Total voters
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DeeperStill

DeeperStill

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I went looking , and asking for a statement of faith for the site but found none. I wondered if it was possible to find out exactly what the majority of members believe by doing a poll. I am not sure at this point how many poll options are allowed by I will find out as I proceed to write them out. I suspect all you will need to do is answer, True, False or undecided.

Lets see what transpires.
 
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watchmen

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Well here is my own personal SOF, not anything I got from any church or person, but what God has revealed to me through the study of His word.

I believe that scripture is the inerrant, infallible Word of God, and final authority that all doctrine/teaching must be judged by.

I believe in the one and only true God ''The Father''

I believe in His Son Jesus Christ, who Himself was fully God and fully man. That He was sent to be the sacrifical Lamb of God and died for the sins of the whole World.

I believe that faith in the Son, His virgin birth, death for our sins, and bodily resurrection is the only way for man to be reconciled to the Father.

I believe in the eternal ''Holy'' Spirit of God, who Jesus sent to comfort, correct, and empower all believers to live righteous, holy lives. Teaching us all truths, and helping us to become effective witnesses for Christ.

I believe a true believer will endeavor to die to self, pick up their cross, and follow hard after Christ, doing the will of the Father instead of their own.

I believe true believers follow the leading of the Spirit and not of the own flesh, and are easily distinguished from false converts who claim the name of Christ, yet bare no fruit.

I believe that 40 days after His resurrection the man Jesus Christ ascended into Heaven and now sits at the right hand of the Father continually making intercession for us.

I believe in the post tribulational, premillennial return of Christ at which time He will resurrect the just, translate the living saints, destroy the wicked with fire, and restor the Jewish nation.

I believe in the Millennial Kingdom where Christ will literally reign for 1,000 years, while Satan is bound in the bottomless pit.

I believe the resurrected and translated saints will reign with Christ as kings and priest during the Millennium in immortal, perfected bodies.

I believe in the post millennial rebelion, the final destruction of all evil, and the White Throne Judgment, when all of Hell itself will be cast into the lake of fire.

I believe in the final reward of the righteous, when we will spend eternity with God Himself in New Jerusalem.
 
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ChristopherMichael

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Biggest, poll, ever! Also, wooooo for pre-trib!

- Topher
 
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Leilaii425

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My head hurts to bad to read all of this.. can someone just sum it up for me
 
MahogonySnail

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Well the pre-trib view does make you more prepared for Christ's return, which is good :D.
 
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ChristopherMichael

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My Dad always says he is pan-trib. As in, it'll all pan out in the end.

- Topher
 
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happynGod

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To be honest, a lot of the words I did not understand. So it was kinda confusing to me in parts. The first one I believe (there is one God, existing eternally in three persons) but I believe God will judge us. I believe the three exists in One. I believe that Jesus left the thrown of Glory to come to Earth to be born as human to be crucified for us for our sins. He was perfect in every way. Without His blood we would be lost. There in One God and His words are true. I believe upon the first day of the week we are to partake of the Lord's supper, and water Baptism is necessary ( complete water immersion ). Jesus died for us, He knew the pain He was going to endure. Jesus loves us so much that He have His life so we can be forgiven of our sins. Now that is love. I believe that this is the most important thing. GBU
 
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happynGod

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That He Gave His life...oops sorry for typo. I did do the poll though. :)
 
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Mobius

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Especially near the end, there are several terms there that I'd have to look up, and accept someone's definition not knowing much about it.

I'll tell you one thing I believe. You will never need a non-blblical term to describe a biblical concept. If the idea is truly from scripture, you can explain it in the same language in which it was written. It's not as convenient, but it's gotta be more accurate.

Ya know, if you pre-tribbers are wrong, you're gonna wish you were nicer to the Mormons. :D
 
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Definition_Christ

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Mobius said:
Especially near the end, there are several terms there that I'd have to look up, and accept someone's definition not knowing much about it.

I'll tell you one thing I believe. You will never need a non-blblical term to describe a biblical concept. If the idea is truly from scripture, you can explain it in the same language in which it was written. It's not as convenient, but it's gotta be more accurate.

Ya know, if you pre-tribbers are wrong, you're gonna wish you were nicer to the Mormons. :D
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Is the word monotheistic in the bible? (I am monotheistic but I am just showing how weak of an argument that is.)
 
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Mobius

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No, and that word is completely unnecessary to explain the Biblical concept behind it.

Sh'ma Yisro'el! Ad-nai Eloheinu, Ad-nai Echad!

Hear, O Israel! The L-rd our G-d, the L-rd is one!

Deu 6:4
 
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Definition_Christ

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Mobius said:
No, and that word is completely unnecessary to explain the Biblical concept behind it.

Sh'ma Yisro'el! Ad-nai Eloheinu, Ad-nai Echad!

Hear, O Israel! The L-rd our G-d, the L-rd is one!

Deu 6:4
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Yup that's right the word isn't there but the concepts of it are, just like the trinity:).
 
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Mobius

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I'm not saying we shouldn't ever use terms that aren't in the Bible. It can make it easier to sum up a complex concept. All I'm saying is, if you (being the literary, generic "you") find yourself unable to explain a concept using exclusively biblical terminology, maybe it's time to re-examine if that doctrine is truly from the Bible. It can apply to a lot of different doctrines that we allow to divide the body.
 
MahogonySnail

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Have you ever wondered why it is taught "The L-rd our G-d, the L-rd is one!"? From the Oneness point of view, it is to me, almost stating the obvious. But why does it really say that? Because I think since God is really a plurality , we might be confused into thinking He is pantheistic. I can't think of a reason why a singular God would need to say "I am one", it is sort of stating the obvious. But it makes more sense when we understand that God is a plurality (Father, Son, Holy Spirit), and that their oneness is in oneness of thought and purpose, not necessarily of being.
 
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Mobius

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No, it only seems like stating the obvious to us, because probably 80% of the world today or more are monotheistic.

But when the statement was first recorded, it was revolutionary. It was the very heart of what separated the Israelites, who believed in two worlds, and one G-d, from the pagan nations, who believed in one world, and many gods.

There is no plurality implied in the word "Echad." It's just a number, the number one.
 
DeeperStill

DeeperStill

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Untrue Mobis

Yachid is One, Echad is unity


Yachid vs. Echad
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The most important verse Jews memorized in the Bible was Deut 6:4: "Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh is one [Echad]!" There are a few words in Hebrew that the Holy Spirit could have used a word the has one exclusive meaning: the numeric, solitary oneness of God ("yachid" or "bad").
Instead the Holy Spirit chose to use the Hebrew word, "echad" which is used most often as a unified one, and sometimes as numeric oneness. For example, when God said in Genesis 2:24 "the two shall become one [echad] flesh" it is the same word for "one" that was used in Deut 6:4.
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Keep in mind folks that this thread that I started is not the place to argue over the poll questions. It was written by me to find out where the majority of the members stood on their beliefs in general.... a show of hands basically.


Please do not turn this thread into an argument between oneness and trinitarians or I will ask a mod to close it.



Thanks
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Mobius

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But you argue against what's been said, as you ask people not to argue. I'll just post my challenge and be done.

Echad is a number, pure and simple. The statement is no more loaded in Hebrew than it is in English. One is one is one is one. Any alleged "scholar" that says otherwise is teaching biased theory instead of straightforward etymology and every Biblical usage of "echad" testifies of it. Take it to another thread, I don't care, I'll come. Yes, a man and woman DO become literally, not metaphorically one, as soon as they get married and have a baby. Two literal flesh becoming one literal flesh. There's notthing mystical or mysterious about it.
 
DeeperStill

DeeperStill

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Mobius said:
Especially near the end, there are several terms there that I'd have to look up, and accept someone's definition not knowing much about it.

I'll tell you one thing I believe. You will never need a non-blblical term to describe a biblical concept. If the idea is truly from scripture, you can explain it in the same language in which it was written. It's not as convenient, but it's gotta be more accurate.

Ya know, if you pre-tribbers are wrong, you're gonna wish you were nicer to the Mormons. :D
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So I guess you are saying we cannot use the word Trinity to describe the triune Godhead, or the term Rapture, which comes from the biblically used term Rapturo ( greek ), to describe a rapture.


You mean we all have to limit our understanding in order to believe as you do?

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