Suicide

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Jan-Willem

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i think i agree with watchmen..i dont think a true christian will commit suicide and i dont think God makes exceptions for the disabeled..he might be more sensitive with them but i dont think he would go so far to where he says it is ok for them to commit suicide because of their condition.
i might be wrong though,this is just my personal opinion.only God knows.

God bless
3 years ago, another boy i knew, committed suicide because he wanted to be with God.
His life on earth was bad in his eyes, and when he read Revelations, he wanted to be with God, because in Heaven, everything is perfect.
 
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imepaula

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#1 That is not the only unforgiven sin.
#2 If you lie or steal you can repent of those sins, if you murder yourself unrepentantly you will not be forgiven of your murder.
I always hear people talking about if you can't repent of your sin you go to hell. What if a devout Christian is angry and does something stupid and dies will he go to hell? No, they won't because that person is a Christian. Christ died on the cross to take care of that.
 
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imepaula

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The thing is no one who is truly a Christian would kill themslef.
If he had mental problems, he could be a Christian and kill himself. He can be a Christian but not be close to God.
 
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Charlotte91

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The thing is no one who is truly a Christian would kill themslef.
i know a girl that did and she was it just shows the devil my break anyone
 
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I always hear people talking about if you can't repent of your sin you go to hell. What if a devout Christian is angry and does something stupid and dies will he go to hell? No, they won't because that person is a Christian. Christ died on the cross to take care of that.
If a ''Christian'' commits murder then they are not a christian.
 
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Judas Iscariot killed himself and he was a christian and even a chosen apostle.
 
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Judas Iscariot killed himself and he was a christian and even a chosen apostle.
Judas is not in Heaven.

John 17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name: those that thou gavest me I have kept, and none of them is lost, but the son of perdition; that the scripture might be fulfilled.


Judas was lost. He is now in Hell.
 
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imepaula

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If a ''Christian'' commits murder then they are not a christian.
It that were the case Christ would be taking back his word and all of Christianity would fall apart. The Bible says if a person believes in their heart and speaks with their mouth they are saved. It does not say as long as you don't kill yourself or as long as you ask for forgiveness before you die. I mean if you get mad at someone on the road and then get in a car accident and die you don't go to hell you still go to heaven.
 
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It that were the case Christ would be taking back his word and all of Christianity would fall apart. The Bible says if a person believes in their heart and speaks with their mouth they are saved. It does not say as long as you don't kill yourself or as long as you ask for forgiveness before you die. I mean if you get mad at someone on the road and then get in a car accident and die you don't go to hell you still go to heaven.
You go to hell for that if you die with unforgiveness in your heart.
 
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Kyra

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Suicide is not the unforgivable sin. Read passages Matthew 12:22-37 and Luke 11:14-28.





 
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If a ''Christian'' commits murder then they are not a christian.
It that were the case Christ would be taking back his word and all of Christianity would fall apart. The Bible says if a person believes in their heart and speaks with their mouth they are saved. It does not say as long as you don't kill yourself or as long as you ask for forgiveness before you die. I mean if you get mad at someone on the road and then get in a car accident and die you don't go to hell you still go to heaven.
So you think a murderer can get into heaven because they confess Christ...WOW!!! that is OSAS to the tenth degree.

Romans 1:29-32
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness, full of envy, murders, debate, deceit, malignity; whispers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they that commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
So it is not only those that live in sin that are worthy of death, but those that accept it and or take pleasure in those that live in sin.
 
 
1st Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornication, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Pretty clear, there is no if, and, or buts, those that live in sin will not make it to heaven.
 
 
Colossians 3:24-25
24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for you serve the Lord Christ.
25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.
We that serve the Lord shall receive our inheritance, but those that commit sin shall also receive what they deserve. God will not turn a blind eye to your sin, while judging others for theirs, for there is no respect with God. He treats us all equally.
 
 
Ephesians 5:1-7
1 Be you therefore followers of God as dear children,
2 And walk in love, as Christ also loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not once be named among you, as becometh saint;
4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving thanks.
5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things comes the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
The scripture is clear, no sinner has any inheritance in the kingdom of God nor of Christ. It also emphatically states that you should not allow yourself to be deceived by vain talkers, such as those that promote the OSAS doctrine. If you partake in the sins of the world you will also partake in the wrath of God with them.
 
 
Revelation 21:7-8
7 He that overcomes shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
This passage states that the overcomers shall inherit all things but that all sinners will burn in the lake of fire. So if you claim yourself to be a ''sinner'' saved by grace then you will burn with the sinners. If you think you can continue in sin without consequence you are mistaken.
 
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imepaula

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So you think a murderer can get into heaven because they confess Christ...WOW!!! that is OSAS to the tenth degree.

Romans 1:29-32
29 Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness, full of envy, murders, debate, deceit, malignity; whispers,
30 Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
31 Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:
32 Who knowing the judgment of God, that they that commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.
So it is not only those that live in sin that are worthy of death, but those that accept it and or take pleasure in those that live in sin.
 
 
1st Corinthians 6:9-10
9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornication, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind.
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.
Pretty clear, there is no if, and, or buts, those that live in sin will not make it to heaven.
 
 
Colossians 3:24-25
24 Knowing that of the Lord ye shall receive the reward of the inheritance: for you serve the Lord Christ.
25 But he that doeth wrong shall receive the wrong which he hath done: and there is no respect of persons.
We that serve the Lord shall receive our inheritance, but those that commit sin shall also receive what they deserve. God will not turn a blind eye to your sin, while judging others for theirs, for there is no respect with God. He treats us all equally.
 
 
Ephesians 5:1-7
1 Be you therefore followers of God as dear children,
2 And walk in love, as Christ also loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour.
3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not once be named among you, as becometh saint;
4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving thanks.
5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.
6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things comes the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.
The scripture is clear, no sinner has any inheritance in the kingdom of God nor of Christ. It also emphatically states that you should not allow yourself to be deceived by vain talkers, such as those that promote the OSAS doctrine. If you partake in the sins of the world you will also partake in the wrath of God with them.
 
 
Revelation 21:7-8
7 He that overcomes shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son
8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake that burns with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
This passage states that the overcomers shall inherit all things but that all sinners will burn in the lake of fire. So if you claim yourself to be a ''sinner'' saved by grace then you will burn with the sinners. If you think you can continue in sin without consequence you are mistaken.

I'm sure everyone's been disobedient to their parents at one time or another doesn't mean they are going to hell. The whole point is and what sets it apart is whether you have Christ as our savior. That why the thief on Jesus' right side is in heaven now because Christ was his savior. The whole point of a gospel is everyone is a sinner saved by grace. Yes if you continue to sin God's wrath will be upon you. If you honestly turn from you sin Christ will be with you.
 
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I'm sure everyone's been disobedient to their parents at one time or another doesn't mean they are going to hell.
Not if they repent. That is the whole point those that die committing suicide are unrepentant murderes. They are not going to get into Heaven. Not according to scripture atleast.



Should we or should we not accept God's word for it?
 
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imepaula

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Not if they repent. That is the whole point those that die committing suicide are unrepentant murderes. They are not going to get into Heaven. Not according to scripture atleast.



Should we or should we not accept God's word for it?
like I said earlier where in God's word does it say if you don't repent of your sin before you die you go to hell. So if a persons in a car accident they are a Christian and they curse and then die do they go to hell?
 
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_Elizabeth_

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This is a judgment call. We are not to judge so why try? Just pray for them and have faith that the Lord will forgive them.
 
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Remmy

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3 years ago, another boy i knew, committed suicide because he wanted to be with God.
His life on earth was bad in his eyes, and when he read Revelations, he wanted to be with God, because in Heaven, everything is perfect.
halllooo jan willem,alles goed?
niet omdat je zelfmoord hb gepleegd om bij God te zijn betekent dat het goed in Gods ogen is. we willen allemaal met HEM zijn in de hemel but hes not gonna be pleased with us if we trying to get there by commiting suicide...Hij bepaalt waneer het tijd is om bij Hem te zijn,wij mogen dat helemaal niet zelf bepalen,aleen de Schepper kan dat bepalen.that boy obviously had some mental problems...very sad..i doubt that hes in heaven right now..but than again,you can never be too sure...only God knows.
oja,ik ben van suriname..

GOD bless
 
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like I said earlier where in God's word does it say if you don't repent of your sin before you die you go to hell. So if a persons in a car accident they are a Christian and they curse and then die do they go to hell?
Actually it does.

Revelation 2:16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

Luke 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
 
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imepaula

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Actually it does.

Revelation 2:16 Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.

Luke 13:5 I tell you, Nay: but, except ye repent, ye shall all likewise perish.
Isn't that talking about repenting of the sins like when you get saved? So saul and samson went to hell?
 
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