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'paganism' has infiltrated the whole earth' - Israel is no exception, but neither are WE,
just look at (xmas-easter-lent), all pagan from Babylon, this has never been a 'secret'...
'read-your-Bible'...

another poster has pointed-out yet 'another-way' this world sacrifices its children, many of us already
are aware of this to our great grief...
and our country is one of the leaders of the 'slave-trading' of women and children and the miss-placed...

may Yeshua have mercy upon us...we desperately need His mercy and grace...
 

Silverwings

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He will not bless any nation who allows abomination and practices the things that are displeasing to the Almighty, yes we should pray for Israel as with all his people anywhere in the earth, we also need to wake up , He will not bless any nation or people that choose to do things their own way, Israel or not.....
And what abominations have they done and how are they displeasing to him?

He has blessed them in many ways, the land was a dessert wasteland when they came, now it is flourishing.
 

trofimus

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And what abominations have they done and how are they displeasing to him?
Unbelief.

"And without faith it is impossible to please God..." Hebrews 11:6

He has blessed them in many ways, the land was a dessert wasteland when they came, now it is flourishing.
If you call this some special blessings, what would you say about e.g. Florida or whole the Europe? Sorry, but the fact that some land grows plants or that the civilization works, is not any sign of any special blesssing from God...
 
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In 2015 Spain overturned a 500 year old ban on Jewish citizenship. (The Portuguese as well).

In 1492 the Jews were forced to accept Christianity, or were slung out. During this diaspora, many went to North Africa, and some to Holland, amongst other places. Apparently many took the keys to their doors with them, and kept them on the mantelpiece.

Now Spain has allowed Jews to reclaim their ancestral homeland, and profit from dual nationality.

Obviously, the choice between a very civilized country with a great culture, fantastic cuisine, easy language, beautiful landscape, mountains, beaches, and friendly people, and a torrid warzone awaiting nuclear annihilation is not a difficult one....

Spain actually features quite a lot in the Bible. Cadiz gets its name from the tribe of Gad, (originally it was Gadiz). The people of Cadiz call themselves 'Gaditones', literally Gadites.

Aragona has deep Jewish connections; Zaragoza has its etymology in Sarah I believe.

Of course, the ancient name for Spain and Portugal, Iberia, means "Hebrews". And the Ebro is a major river.

When Jonah tried to run off to Tarschish, the place in question is generally believed to be Cadiz - the oldest habitation in Europe.

The Hebrew settlements in Spain go back millenia. I am thinking of taking up dual nationality myself...
 
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Judy would say: "Give me that"

I would pass her the Golden Report

https://thegoldenreport.net/the-roots-of-evil-in-jerusalem/




Judy would read it and say: "Oi vey - Bert, who is Israel?"

Bert would say: "Israel is the Church Judy"




Judy: "Thank you Bert. How many of you dumb so-called Christian schmucks fall for this horse manure. Zionism is a fraud - case closed, thank you. No, shut up - go to Church"
 
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Although in truth, Judy is just another libtard non-Christian peddling her brand (of "superior to and better than you") and raking in millions annually and laughing all the way to the bank,
 
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Stand with the Lord (Roman 11:1-5)---the salvation of Israel---God has not cast His people away...
**** Bless Israel...
 
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6 he says:
"It is too light a thing that you should be my servant
to raise up the tribes of Jacob
and to bring back the preserved of Israel;
I will make you as a light for the nations,
that my salvation may reach to the end of the earth."isa 49

isreal was given back government of there nation around 1945 ad

16 "For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life.17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him.18 Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God John 3

the only problem and question, would be, dose salvation have different meanings.

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Mar 28, 2016
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WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Boy somebody is going to get cursed.............Would not want to be in your shoes.



Genesis 12:1-3 (KJV)

"12 Now the Lord had said unto Abram, Get thee out of thy country, and from thy kindred, and from thy father's house, unto a land that I will shew thee:

2 And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing:

3 And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed."
Not all Israel are born again through the incorruptible seed of God's word and the name Christian is the new name He named His people . Its never about the flesh of one nation compared to another. It is about new creatures given a new spirit that will never die. A Jew or a Christian is one inwardly not after the flesh.

Romans 9:6 Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they are not all Israel, which are of Israel:

Romans 2:29 But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
 

Embankment

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Isrial as a nation stands behind it's Jewish heritage and that denies the authority of Christ. Makes it hard for me to support them.
 
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Do not support a wicked nation who are persecuting and killing innocent Palestinian Christians. Modern-day Israel has got nothing to do with Bible prophecy. It was established by the eastern European Khazars with the help of the British imperialists via the Balfour declaration. They are not the "chosen ones" as devine judgement came in Old Covenant Jerusalem in 70 AD and it was destroyed. Remember what Jesus said to Caiaphas. Jesus kept His promise and returned spiritually in 70 AD. The Church was also consummated in 70 AD. So stop preaching about modern day Israel. The true Israel is the spiritual Israel or the Church which Christ sacrificed His life for. Modern day Israel is anti-Christ. Just ask the Palestinians!
 
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Do not bless Israel as they are antiChrist in spirit. The verse "God had not cast away his people" is referring to the great Tribulation of 70 AD where a remnant of Jewish Christians escaped the tribulation and went on to establish the spiritual Israel or the Church. God did not cast away his people because the verse is referring to the spiritual Israel. The tiny physical land in the middle east means nothing. It was established by the pagan Khazars in eastern Europe and promoted by the British and their Balfour declaration in 1917. Stop preaching about physical Israel and start glorifying the spiritual Israel which God blessed in 70 AD when the physical land was destroyed by the Son of Man.
 

valiant

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Stand with the Lord (Roman 11:1-5)---the salvation of Israel---God has not cast His people away...
God has not cast away His people WHOM HE FOREKNEW. He then gives examples of foreknowing. He has broken off the others (Romans 11.12-24)
 

valiant

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'paganism' has infiltrated the whole earth' - Israel is no exception, but neither are WE,
just look at (xmas-easter-lent), all pagan from Babylon, this has never been a 'secret'...
'read-your-Bible'...
since when did they come from Babylon lol

another poster has pointed-out yet 'another-way' this world sacrifices its children, many of us already
are aware of this to our great grief... and our country is one of the leaders of the 'slave-trading' of women and children and the miss-placed...
then thank God I'm English

may Yeshua have mercy upon us...we desperately need His mercy and grace...
true
 

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Let's continue too bless and support Israel--- Day and Night she is upon the heart of God...
 

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God Will Complete Salvation With Israel----"The only reason the Jewish people exist on the Earth is because God has kept His promises to us even when we were in unbelief!". "That tells you something about our God!" Dr. Michael Brown
 

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God's Heart For Israel****"Why is it we want God to deal with the Church with Grace, but we expect only Justice from God for Israel? Doesn't make sense does it!" Dr. Michael Brown
 

valiant

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Let's continue too bless and support Israel--- Day and Night she is upon the heart of God...
I would say that the nation of Israel is still under God's judgment. God is not supporting the charade in the holy land.
 
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The salvation of Israel was complete by 70 AD. In Jerusalem in 70 AD there was a remnant of Jewish Christians who had faith in Christ and listened to His words (Matthew 24) and escaped the Great Tribulation. This group of Jews were blessed and went on to establish the Church, or the spiritual Israel. This was the salvation of Israel. That the Messiah would be a light to all gentile nations on earth. Wherever you see a church, you see the salvation of Israel through Christ Jesus.
The other Jews in Jerusalem in 70 AD who killed and martyred the Saints came under judgement and were killed by the Roman sword. The rest were taken captive and dispersed never to return again. Modern-day Israel has got nothing to do with Bible prophecy and was established by pagan eastern European Khazars who are not descendants of biblical Jews. It was in fact established by the British Balfour declaration, not Bible prophecy.