Temple Mount Awakening: Sukkot 5769/2008

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NZm5akvE-Q

Please Watch this video, I know its long but it is So Important.

3,400 years ago, Moses saw the future. The book of Deuteronomy records his prophecies.
Moses foresaw a time of restoration when Israel's long night of exile would end. The sun would yet rise on Jacob. He said:

ADONAI your God will reverse your exile and show you mercy; he will return and gather you from all the peoples to which ADONAI your God scattered you. If one of yours was scattered to the far end of the sky, ADONAI your God will gather you even from there; he will go there and get you. ADONAI your God will bring you back into the land your ancestors possessed, and you will possess it; he will make you prosper there, and you will become even more numerous than your ancestors. Then ADONAI your God will circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your children, so that you will love ADONAI your God with all your heart and all your being, and thus you will live. (Deut.30)

For 2000 years it has been unfawful for a Jew to go to the Temple Mount, but in 2008, the Jews went, 1000s went. You sould watch this video. Messiah is coming!!!
 
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The Restoration was what Jesus accomplished with the establishment of the church. There is no future for the "nation" of ancient Israel. There is no future for the temple for believers are the temple.

The Jews need to repent and believe in Jesus of Nazareth in order to be saved. He is Lord... Adonai... He is Jesus... the savior.
 
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The Restoration was what Jesus accomplished with the establishment of the church. There is no future for the "nation" of ancient Israel. There is no future for the temple for believers are the temple.

The Jews need to repent and believe in Jesus of Nazareth in order to be saved. He is Lord... Adonai... He is Jesus... the savior.
Isaiah 11
12 He will hoist a banner for the Goyim, assemble the dispersed of Isra'el, and gather the scattered of Y'hudah from the four corners of the earth.

12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Joel 3
1 "For then, at that time, when I restore the fortunes of Y'hudah and Yerushalayim,
2 I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Y'hoshafat [ADONAI judges]. I will enter into judgment there for my people, my heritage Isra'el, whom they scattered among the nations; then they divided my land.
3 They drew lots for my people, traded boys for whores, sold girls for wine to drink.
4 "Moreover, what have you against me, Tzor, Tzidon, all parts of P'leshet? Are you paying me back for something I did? If you're paying me back for something I did, then easily, quickly, I'll pay you back right on your own head.
5 You took my silver and gold. You brought my good treasures into your temples.
6 The people of Y'hudah and Yerushalayim you sold to the Greeks, so that you could remove them far away from their land.
7 I will rouse them from the place where you sold them and pay you back right on your own head
8 I will sell your sons and daughters to the people of Y'hudah; and they will sell them to the men of Sh'va, a nation far off; for ADONAI has spoken.
9 "Proclaim this among the nations: 'Prepare for war! Rouse the warriors! Let all the fighting men approach and attack.'
10 Hammer your plow-blades into swords and your pruning-knives into spears. Let the weak say, 'I am strong.'
11 Hurry, come, you surrounding nations, gather yourselves together!" Bring your warriors down, ADONAI!
12 "Let the nations be roused and come up to the Valley of Y'hoshafat [ADONAI judges]. For there I will sit to judge all the surrounding nations."
13 Swing the sickle, for the harvest is ripe; come, and tread, for the winepress is full. The vats are overflowing, for their wickedness is great.
14 Such enormous crowds in the Valley of Decision! For the Day of ADONAI is upon us in the Valley of Decision!
15 The sun and moon have grown black, and the stars have stopped shining.
16 ADONAI will roar from Tziyon, he will thunder from Yerushalayim, the sky and the earth will shake. But ADONAI will be a refuge for his people, a stronghold for the people of Isra'el.
17 "You will know that I am ADONAI your God, living on Tziyon my holy mountain." Then Yerushalayim will be holy, and foreigners will pass through her no more.
18 Then, when that time comes, the mountains will drip with sweet wine, the hills will flow with milk, all the streambeds of Y'hudah will run with water, and a spring will flow from the house of ADONAI to water the Sheetim Valley.
19 But Egypt will be desolate and Edom a desert waste, because of the violence done to the people of Y'hudah, because they shed innocent blood in their land.
20 Y'hudah will be inhabited forever, Yerushalayim through all generations.
21 "I will cleanse them of bloodguilt which I have not yet cleansed," for ADONAI is living in Tziyon.

Zechariah 8
23 ADONAI-Tzva'ot says, 'When that time comes, ten men will take hold - speaking all the languages of the nations - will grab hold of the cloak of a Jew and say, "We want to go with you, because we have heard that God is with you."'"
 
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Isaiah 11
12 He will hoist a banner for the Goyim, assemble the dispersed of Isra'el, and gather the scattered of Y'hudah from the four corners of the earth.

12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the four corners of the earth.

Joel 3
1 "For then, at that time, when I restore the fortunes of Y'hudah and Yerushalayim,
2 I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Y'hoshafat [ADONAI judges]. I will enter into judgment there for my people, my heritage Isra'el, whom they scattered among the nations; then they divided my land.
3 They drew lots for my people, traded boys for whores, sold girls for wine to drink.
4 "Moreover, what have you against me, Tzor, Tzidon, all parts of P'leshet? Are you paying me back for something I did? If you're paying me back for something I did, then easily, quickly, I'll pay you back right on your own head.
5 You took my silver and gold. You brought my good treasures into your temples.
6 The people of Y'hudah and Yerushalayim you sold to the Greeks, so that you could remove them far away from their land.
7 I will rouse them from the place where you sold them and pay you back right on your own head
8 I will sell your sons and daughters to the people of Y'hudah; and they will sell them to the men of Sh'va, a nation far off; for ADONAI has spoken.
9 "Proclaim this among the nations: 'Prepare for war! Rouse the warriors! Let all the fighting men approach and attack.'
10 Hammer your plow-blades into swords and your pruning-knives into spears. Let the weak say, 'I am strong.'
11 Hurry, come, you surrounding nations, gather yourselves together!" Bring your warriors down, ADONAI!
12 "Let the nations be roused and come up to the Valley of Y'hoshafat [ADONAI judges]. For there I will sit to judge all the surrounding nations."
13 Swing the sickle, for the harvest is ripe; come, and tread, for the winepress is full. The vats are overflowing, for their wickedness is great.
14 Such enormous crowds in the Valley of Decision! For the Day of ADONAI is upon us in the Valley of Decision!
15 The sun and moon have grown black, and the stars have stopped shining.
16 ADONAI will roar from Tziyon, he will thunder from Yerushalayim, the sky and the earth will shake. But ADONAI will be a refuge for his people, a stronghold for the people of Isra'el.
17 "You will know that I am ADONAI your God, living on Tziyon my holy mountain." Then Yerushalayim will be holy, and foreigners will pass through her no more.
18 Then, when that time comes, the mountains will drip with sweet wine, the hills will flow with milk, all the streambeds of Y'hudah will run with water, and a spring will flow from the house of ADONAI to water the Sheetim Valley.
19 But Egypt will be desolate and Edom a desert waste, because of the violence done to the people of Y'hudah, because they shed innocent blood in their land.
20 Y'hudah will be inhabited forever, Yerushalayim through all generations.
21 "I will cleanse them of bloodguilt which I have not yet cleansed," for ADONAI is living in Tziyon.

Zechariah 8
23 ADONAI-Tzva'ot says, 'When that time comes, ten men will take hold - speaking all the languages of the nations - will grab hold of the cloak of a Jew and say, "We want to go with you, because we have heard that God is with you."'"
Israel have already been gathered.

James 1:1

"James a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting."

At the time James was writing, he greets the twelve tribes as fellow Christians, they had already converted, in fact were already under covenant as per Hebrews 8:8-12. Because of Israel's divorce it was necessary that the Gospel first go to the tribe of Judah and then to the 10 tribes of Israel, then to all those descended from Eber than the whole world, and this has already been done.
 
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Israel have already been gathered.

James 1:1

"James a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting."

At the time James was writing, he greets the twelve tribes as fellow Christians, they had already converted, in fact were already under covenant as per Hebrews 8:8-12. Because of Israel's divorce it was necessary that the Gospel first go to the tribe of Judah and then to the 10 tribes of Israel, then to all those descended from Eber than the whole world, and this has already been done.
When did these things happen? I must have missed it.

Joel 3, 4(3)

1 "For then, at that time, when I restore the fortunes of Y'hudah and Yerushalayim, 2 I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Y'hoshafat [ADONAI judges]. I will enter into judgment there for my people, my heritage Isra'el, whom they scattered among the nations; then they divided my land.

12 "Let the nations be roused and come up to the Valley of Y'hoshafat [ADONAI judges]. For there I will sit to judge all the surrounding nations."
13 Swing the sickle, for the harvest is ripe; come, and tread, for the winepress is full. The vats are overflowing, for their wickedness is great.

14 Such enormous crowds in the Valley of Decision! For the Day of ADONAI is upon us in the Valley of Decision!
15 The sun and moon have grown black, and the stars have stopped shining.
16 ADONAI will roar from Tziyon, he will thunder from Yerushalayim, the sky and the earth will shake. But ADONAI will be a refuge for his people, a stronghold for the people of Isra'el.
 
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Israel have already been gathered.

James 1:1

"James a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting."

At the time James was writing, he greets the twelve tribes as fellow Christians, they had already converted, in fact were already under covenant as per Hebrews 8:8-12. Because of Israel's divorce it was necessary that the Gospel first go to the tribe of Judah and then to the 10 tribes of Israel, then to all those descended from Eber than the whole world, and this has already been done.
You realize "gathered" and "scattered" are antonyms, right?
 
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Israel have already been gathered.

James 1:1

"James a servant of God and of the Lord Jesus Christ, to the twelve tribes which are scattered abroad, greeting."

At the time James was writing, he greets the twelve tribes as fellow Christians, they had already converted, in fact were already under covenant as per Hebrews 8:8-12. Because of Israel's divorce it was necessary that the Gospel first go to the tribe of Judah and then to the 10 tribes of Israel, then to all those descended from Eber than the whole world, and this has already been done.
deeeeeeeeeeer cup scattered is the opposite of gathered
 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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When did these things happen? I must have missed it.
Yes looks like you certainly missed it.

Joel 3, 4(3)

1 "For then, at that time, when I restore the fortunes of Y'hudah and Yerushalayim, 2 I will gather all nations and bring them down to the Valley of Y'hoshafat [ADONAI judges]. I will enter into judgment there for my people, my heritage Isra'el, whom they scattered among the nations; then they divided my land.

12 "Let the nations be roused and come up to the Valley of Y'hoshafat [ADONAI judges]. For there I will sit to judge all the surrounding nations."
13 Swing the sickle, for the harvest is ripe; come, and tread, for the winepress is full. The vats are overflowing, for their wickedness is great.
14 Such enormous crowds in the Valley of Decision! For the Day of ADONAI is upon us in the Valley of Decision!
15 The sun and moon have grown black, and the stars have stopped shining.
16 ADONAI will roar from Tziyon, he will thunder from Yerushalayim, the sky and the earth will shake. But ADONAI will be a refuge for his people, a stronghold for the people of Isra'el.
The subject of Joel's prophecy is 'the day of the Lord'. Joel was sent to guilty Judah, like Hosea was sent to guilty Israel. Hosea's "burden" relates to the end of the Northen Kingdom of Israel; Joel's prophecy relates to the end of the Kingdom of Judah, during the last 7 years of the Kingdom.
 
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Yes looks like you certainly missed it.



The subject of Joel's prophecy is 'the day of the Lord'. Joel was sent to guilty Judah, like Hosea was sent to guilty Israel. Hosea's "burden" relates to the end of the Northen Kingdom of Israel; Joel's prophecy relates to the end of the Kingdom of Judah, during the last 7 years of the Kingdom.

Joel 3:

20 Y'hudah will be inhabited forever, Yerushalayim through all generations.
21 "I will cleanse them of bloodguilt which I have not yet cleansed," for ADONAI is living in Tziyon.
 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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You realize "gathered" and "scattered" are antonyms, right?
You notice how James refers to the twelve tribes, that is reunification, Israel was no longer divorced from God, because of the death of the husband Jesus Christ, the 10 tribes of Israel could remarry and be re-united with Judah, to make the complete twelve as Christians, that is why Jesus told Judah, "I come only for the lost sheep of Israel", Judah was sent to Israel with the Gospel.
 
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Joel 3:

20 Y'hudah will be inhabited forever, Yerushalayim through all generations.
21 "I will cleanse them of bloodguilt which I have not yet cleansed," for ADONAI is living in Tziyon.
"Judah (Tribe of Judah) will dwell for ever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation."

Obviously Jerusalem was destroyed, the Temple rent in half, yet the Tribe of Judah as a people not a location in Judea remain and according to Hebrews 8:8-12 all of the House of Judah became Christian.
 
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"Judah (Tribe of Judah) will dwell for ever, and Jerusalem from generation to generation."

Obviously Jerusalem was destroyed, the Temple rent in half, yet the Tribe of Judah as a people not a location in Judea remain and according to Hebrews 8:8-12 all of the House of Judah became Christian.
Hebrews 8, says nothing about Judah nor Israel becoming Christians.

8 For God does find fault with the people when he says, "'See! The days are coming,' says ADONAI, 'when I will establish over the house of Isra'el and over the house of Y'hudah a new covenant.
9 "'It will not be like the covenant which I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by their hand and led them forth out of the land of Egypt;

(Why is it not like the One made with the fathers?)

because they, for their part, did not remain faithful to my covenant; so I, for my part, stopped concerning myself with them,' says ADONAI.

(And, why were we not faithful to it? Because it was written on tabs of stone.)

10 "'For this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Isra'el after those days,' says ADONAI: 'I will put my Torah in their minds and write it on their hearts; I will be their God, and they will be my people.

And again, Hebrews 10:

15 And the Ruach HaKodesh too bears witness to us; for after saying,
16 " 'This is the covenant which I will make with them after those days,' says ADONAI: 'I will put my Torah on their hearts, and write it on their minds . . . ,' "

Ezekiel 36:

24 For I will take you from among the nations, gather you from all the countries, and return you to your own soil.
25 Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your uncleanness and from all your idols.
26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit inside you;

I will take the stony heart out of your flesh

(The heart of stone/Torah written on stone.)

and give you a heart of flesh.

27 I will put my Spirit inside you (The Spirit of Messiah, Who love the Commandments of His Father.)and cause you to live by my laws, respect my rulings and obey them.

Nothing about becoming Christians.
 
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I would say,
if your looking for the lost tribes of Israel,
look to the ones turning to God with all thier hearts and to His Messiah;
the ones who love the Torah,
and have a deep rooted desire to keep His Commandments.
That, to me would make more sense.
And this, turning to God through Messiah, and to Torah;
is happening all over the world.
Just as He said it would.
 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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Hebrews 8, says nothing about Judah nor Israel becoming Christians.

8 For God does find fault with the people when he says, "'See! The days are coming,' says ADONAI, 'when I will establish over the house of Isra'el and over the house of Y'hudah a new covenant.
9 "'It will not be like the covenant which I made with their fathers on the day when I took them by their hand and led them forth out of the land of Egypt;

(Why is it not like the One made with the fathers?)

because they, for their part, did not remain faithful to my covenant; so I, for my part, stopped concerning myself with them,' says ADONAI.

(And, why were we not faithful to it? Because it was written on tabs of stone.)

10 "'For this is the covenant which I will make with the house of Isra'el after those days,' says ADONAI: 'I will put my Torah in their minds and write it on their hearts; I will be their God, and they will be my people.

And again, Hebrews 10:

15 And the Ruach HaKodesh too bears witness to us; for after saying,
16 " 'This is the covenant which I will make with them after those days,' says ADONAI: 'I will put my Torah on their hearts, and write it on their minds . . . ,' "

Ezekiel 36:

24 For I will take you from among the nations, gather you from all the countries, and return you to your own soil.
25 Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your uncleanness and from all your idols.
26 I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit inside you;

I will take the stony heart out of your flesh

(The heart of stone/Torah written on stone.)

and give you a heart of flesh.

27 I will put my Spirit inside you (The Spirit of Messiah, Who love the Commandments of His Father.)and cause you to live by my laws, respect my rulings and obey them.

Nothing about becoming Christians.
?????? What? What are you talking about? Do you even know? Clearly not! Is there another Covenant? that is the Covenant, the one where it is written on the circumcised heart, the one where God writes his laws and commandments on the heart and puts them in the mind, that is in the "New Testament (Covenant)" And that is the Covenant based upon the blood of Christ, the Son of the Living God! There is no other covenant, read the Book of Hebrews, its' in there, all of it, old Covenant is gone, vanished, no need, done with, over, decayed, waxeth old, vanish away!!!

"And for this cause He (Jesus Christ) is the Mediator of the New Covenant, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that (Israel) were under the first Covenant they which are called might recieve the promise of eternal inheritence." Heb. 9:15
 
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Cup-of-Ruin

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I would say,
if your looking for the lost tribes of Israel,
look to the ones turning to God with all thier hearts and to His Messiah;
the ones who love the Torah,
and have a deep rooted desire to keep His Commandments.
That, to me would make more sense.
And this, turning to God through Messiah, and to Torah;
is happening all over the world.
Just as He said it would.
They already have, you don't think Jesus found His sheep in the last 2000 years? Of course He did, all of Israel were saved, if they were not then no of us are Christian, the lost tribes were found, all the early diciples and followers and Apostles were from the Tribe of Judah which included Benjamin, the 10 tribes never returned from captivity in Assyria but were scattered in Europe after they crossed the Caucases Mountains and this is to whom the Apostles and diciples of Jesus went, this is all recorded history and proven by the Bible.
 
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no point telling him that Israel will (in future) be grafted in again
he has been told all this before


Rom 11 21for if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest He also spare not thee.


22Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in His goodness. Otherwise, thou also shalt be cut off.

23And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.

24For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree, how much more shall these, which are the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

25For I, brethren, would not have you be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits(Cup): that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.
26And so all Israel shall be saved, as it is written: "There shall come out of Zion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness fromJacob.
 
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ASSIYAH

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no point telling him that Israel will (in future) be grafted in again
he has been told all this before
Yeah, I think you are right kraw, this looks like a waste of time.
 
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no point telling him that Israel will (in future) be grafted in again
he has been told all this before


Rom 11 21for if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest He also spare not thee.


22Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on those who fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in His goodness. Otherwise, thou also shalt be cut off.

23And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.

24For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree, how much more shall these, which are the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?

25For I, brethren, would not have you be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits(Cup): that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.
26And so all Israel shall be saved, as it is written: "There shall come out of Zion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness fromJacob.
The 10 tribes of Israel were grafted on to Judah, Judah called divorced Israel 'ethnos' - Gentiles. Also note how Israel in terms of geographical location was divided from Judea, Israel was the Northern Kingdom, to say a Judean is from Israel is an oxymoron. I mean you and others and most of the Church and all those of thje Synagogue of Satan cannot even get your geography or history correct, you have no idea what you are talking about and refuse to listen or repent, and so it is written.

"I know the blasphemy that say they are 'Jews" (Judeans) but are not Judeans, but are the Synagogue of Satan" Rev. 2:9

The truth is that if you call yourself a "Jew" and this is when John was writing than you are not a true Judean, if you were a true Judean from the Tribe of Judah you would be a Christian, and Paul says exactly the same, because the Gospel came out of Judah ane was preached first to the lost sheep of Israel, first the breach needed to be healed between Judah and Israel, they were to be reunited as the 12 tribes and be saved by God, so the marriage can go ahead, and then the Gospel goes to the rest of the world.

You people have it all the wrong way round, you are not alone, you are supported by a apostate blinded church, I submit to you that you reconsider your position.
 
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The 10 tribes of Israel were grafted on to Judah, Judah called divorced Israel 'ethnos' - Gentiles. Also note how Israel in terms of geographical location was divided from Judea, Israel was the Northern Kingdom, to say a Judean is from Israel is an oxymoron. I mean you and others and most of the Church and all those of thje Synagogue of Satan cannot even get your geography or history correct, you have no idea what you are talking about and refuse to listen or repent, and so it is written.

"I know the blasphemy that say they are 'Jews" (Judeans) but are not Judeans, but are the Synagogue of Satan" Rev. 2:9

The truth is that if you call yourself a "Jew" and this is when John was writing than you are not a true Judean, if you were a true Judean from the Tribe of Judah you would be a Christian, and Paul says exactly the same, because the Gospel came out of Judah ane was preached first to the lost sheep of Israel, first the breach needed to be healed between Judah and Israel, they were to be reunited as the 12 tribes and be saved by God, so the marriage can go ahead, and then the Gospel goes to the rest of the world.

You people have it all the wrong way round, you are not alone, you are supported by a apostate blinded church, I submit to you that you reconsider your position.
"I know the blasphemy that say they are 'Jews" (Judeans) but are not Judeans, but are the Synagogue of Satan" Rev. 2:9

Maybe this is You.
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"I know the blasphemy that say they are 'Jews" (Judeans) but are not Judeans, but are the Synagogue of Satan" Rev. 2:9

Maybe this is You.
????

I should not have said this. I'm sorry, but I am sick of people saying my people are the Synagogue of Satan. I am sick of it!
 
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