Temple Mount Awakening: Sukkot 5769/2008

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miktre

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It's not Israel, they are fakes. Same as a fake messiah is coming. I didn't read anywhere it said that "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God" expect people that live in Palestine or any man for that reason.

7For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist.
8Look to yourselves, that we lose not those things which we have wrought, but that we receive a full reward.
9Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
* EXCEPT not expect
 
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ASSIYAH

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Israel is not a geographical location in Palestine set up illegally by the House of Rothschild under the Balfour Declaration. Israel are a people, you cannot just get a bunch of Judaism converts put under the Babylonain Hexagram and call them the children of Israel, that's blasphemy, who do you think your fooling? You cannot even get the right location the capital of Israel was Samaria, the capital of Judea is Jerusalem, the capital of the false criminal state of "Israel" is Tel Aviv!!! You got it all wrong. It's not your land stop pretending to be the chosen people of God, when you are not, you lie, and you will be found out and all evil will be brought to light...
When you say all evil will be brought to light you are speaking the truth, you should keep this in mind, because it is God who has brought us back into our land; as He said He would.

1 "When the time arrives that all these things have come upon you, both the blessing and the curse which I have presented to you; and you are there among the nations to which ADONAI your God has driven you; then, at last, you will start thinking about what has happened to you; 2 and you will return to ADONAI your God and pay attention to what he has said, which will be exactly what I am ordering you to do today - you and your children, with all your heart and all your being. 3 At that point, ADONAI your God will reverse your exile and show you mercy; he will return and gather you from all the peoples to which ADONAI your God scattered you. 4 If one of yours was scattered to the far end of the sky, ADONAI your God will gather you even from there; he will go there and get you. 5 ADONAI your God will bring you back into the land your ancestors possessed, and you will possess it; he will make you prosper there, and you will become even more numerous than your ancestors. 6 Then ADONAI your God will circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your children, so that you will love ADONAI your God with all your heart and all your being, and thus you will live. (Deut. 30)

10 On that day the root of Yishai, which stands as a banner for the peoples - the Goyim will seek him out, and the place where he rests will be glorious. 11 On that day Adonai will raise his hand again, a second time, to reclaim the remnant of his people who remain from Ashur, Egypt, Patros, Ethiopia, 'Eilam, Shin'ar, Hamat and the islands in the sea. 12 He will hoist a banner for the Goyim, assemble the dispersed of Isra'el, and gather the scattered of Y'hudah from the four corners of the earth. (Isaiah 11)

27 He will send out his angels and gather together his chosen people from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of heaven.

28 "Now let the fig tree teach you its lesson: when its branches begin to sprout and leaves appear, you know that summer is approaching. 29 In the same way, when you see all these things happening, you are to know that the time is near, right at the door. 30 Yes! I tell you that this people will certainly not pass away before all these things happen. 31 Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will certainly not pass away.

6 Then Yeshua gave this illustration: "A man had a fig tree planted in his vine yard, and he came looking for fruit but didn't find any. 7 So he said to the man who took care of the vineyard, `Here, I've come looking for fruit on this fig tree for three years now without finding any. Cut it down -- why let it go on using up the soil?' 8 But he answered, `Sir, leave it alone one more year. I'll dig around it and put manure on it. 9 If it bears fruit next year, well and good; if not, you will have it cut down then.'"

The owner of the vineyard is the God of Israel

7 Now the vineyard of ADONAI-Tzva'ot is the house of Isra'el, and the men of Y'hudah are the plant he delighted in. (Isaiah 5)

The dresser is the Messiah, who, through his digging and fertilizing, would make the nation bring fruit unto God.

Israel

The fig tree was used as a picture of Israel not without a cause. As early as in the Old Testament, figs were identified with the nation of Israel by the prophets. Hosea wrote: ‘I found Israel like grapes in the wilderness, I saw your fathers as the first ripe in the fig tree in her first time" (Hosea 9:10). Jeremiah received the vision of two baskets of figs, which represented Israel: "Like these good figs, so will I acknowledge them that are carried away captive of Judah" (Jer. 24:5).


One of the Lord’s miracles is most intriguing when his curse of the fig tree caused it to wither.

19 Spotting a fig tree by the road, he went up to it but found nothing on it except leaves. So he said to it, "May you never again bear fruit!" and immediately the fig tree dried up.

Some interpret this event literally, as a curse on a tree which had no fruit. But such an interpretation is in conflict with a note made by the author of the Gospel of Mark, who emphasizes that "the time for figs was not yet" (Mark 11:13).


How soon was Messiah's prophecy fulfilled about the withering of the symbolic fig tree to be fulfilled?. In the year 70 A.D. the temple was destroyed. No longer was there a place to offer sacrifices, the opportunity to serve the Lord according to the precepts of the Law thus ended. Jerusalem fell into ruin, and the whole nation was expelled from their own land and dispersed throughout the world.

Speaking about the time of his Kingdom approaching, Yeshua again turns his disciples’ attention to the fig tree. "Now learn a parable of the fig tree: When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth his leaves, ye know that summer is nigh. So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the door". (Matt. 24:32, 33)

It should be observed that this parable was uttered on the same day when the barren fig tree was cursed. Therefore it would be difficult to assume that when Messiah told them to watch for signs taking place on that very kind of a tree, it was merely accidental. These two events constitute one whole. As a result of the rejection of the Messiah on the part of the Jews, during his first advent, God’s favor was turned away from them, as shown in the withered tree. Whereas, the softening of the branches and the bringing forth of leaves represents the return of favor to this nation during the time of the establishment of the Kingdom in Yeshua’s second advent. Let us, then, carefully observe this symbolic fig tree.

 
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In the year 70 A.D. the temple was destroyed. No longer was there a place to offer sacrifices, the opportunity to serve the Lord according to the precepts of the Law thus ended. Jerusalem fell into ruin, and the whole nation was expelled from their own land and dispersed throughout the world.
No, the Temple was rent when Jesus Christ died, there was no longer sacrifice accepted by God after Jesus' blood hit the ground. Jesus told Judah to leave before AD 70 and they did, only Jews were left in Jerusalem, the House of Judah had left as Jesus had told them to; "Behold your house is left desolete to you".

Jewish Dispora was after A.D. 70. Israel never returned from Assyrian captivity, and the remnant of Judah that did return became Christian and left Jerusalem before A.D. 70 just like Jesus had told them to.
 
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No, the Temple was rent when Jesus Christ died, there was no longer sacrifice accepted by God after Jesus' blood hit the ground. Jesus told Judah to leave before AD 70 and they did, only Jews were left in Jerusalem, the House of Judah had left as Jesus had told them to; "Behold your house is left desolete to you".

Jewish Dispora was after A.D. 70. Israel never returned from Assyrian captivity, and the remnant of Judah that did return became Christian and left Jerusalem before A.D. 70 just like Jesus had told them to.
17 In Yerushalayim, the brothers received us warmly.
18 The next day Sha'ul and the rest of us went in to Ya'akov, and all the elders were present.
19 After greeting them, Sha'ul described in detail each of the things God had done among the Gentiles through his efforts.
20 On hearing it, they praised God; but they also said to him, "You see, brother, how many tens of thousands of believers there are among the Judeans, and they are all zealots for the Torah.
21 Now what they have been told about you is that you are teaching all the Jews living among the Goyim to apostatize from Moshe, telling them not to have a b'rit-milah for their sons and not to follow the traditions.
22 "What, then, is to be done? They will certainly hear that you have come.
23 So do what we tell you. We have four men who are under a vow.
24 Take them with you, be purified with them, and pay the expenses connected with having their heads shaved. Then everyone will know that there is nothing to these rumors which they have heard about you; but that, on the contrary, you yourself stay in line and keep the Torah.
25 "However, in regard to the Goyim who have come to trust in Yeshua, we all joined in writing them a letter with our decision that they should abstain from what had been sacrificed to idols, from blood, from what is strangled and from fornication."
26 The next day Sha'ul took the men, purified himself along with them and entered the Temple to give notice of when the period of purification would be finished and the offering would have to be made for each of them. (Act 21)

1 ADONAI said to Moshe, 2 "Tell the people of Isra'el, 'When either a man or a woman makes a special kind of vow, the vow of a nazir, consecrating himself to ADONAI;

13 "'This is the law for the nazir when his period of consecration is over: he is to be brought to the entrance of the tent of meeting,
14 where he will present his offering to ADONAI - one male lamb in its first year without defect as a burnt offering, one female lamb in its first year without defect as a sin offering, one ram without defect as peace offerings,
15 a basket of matzah, loaves made of fine flour mixed with olive oil, unleavened wafers spread with olive oil, their grain offering and their drink offerings.
16 The cohen is to bring them before ADONAI, offer his sin offering, his burnt offering,
17 and his ram as a sacrifice of peace offerings to ADONAI, with the basket of matzah. The cohen will also offer the grain offering and drink offering that go with the peace offering.
18 The nazir will shave his consecrated head at the entrance to the tent of meeting, take the hair removed from his consecrated head and put it on the fire under the sacrifice of peace offerings.
19 When the ram has been boiled, the cohen is to take its shoulder, one loaf of matzah from the basket and one unleavened wafer, and place them in the hands of the nazir, after he has shaved his consecrated head.
20 The cohen is to wave them as a wave offering before ADONAI; this is set aside for the cohen, along with the breast for waving and the raised-up thigh. Following that, the nazir may drink wine.
21 "'This is the law for the nazir who makes a vow and for his offering to ADONAI for his being a nazir - in addition to anything more for which he has sufficient means. In keeping with whatever vow he makes, he must do it according to the law for the nazir.'"

Paul went into the Temple after Yeshua and made offerings to God read it for your self. (Num. 6)
 

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No, the Temple was rent when Jesus Christ died, there was no longer sacrifice accepted by God after Jesus' blood hit the ground. Jesus told Judah to leave before AD 70 and they did, only Jews were left in Jerusalem, the House of Judah had left as Jesus had told them to; "Behold your house is left desolete to you".

Jewish Dispora was after A.D. 70. Israel never returned from Assyrian captivity, and the remnant of Judah that did return became Christian and left Jerusalem before A.D. 70 just like Jesus had told them to.
The Spirit spoke of a time when there would be sacrifice in the temple, while the Lord Jesus rules from its throne. The same temple from which a river of living water will flow out of, along which banks of this river will trees grow who's leaves will be used for the healing of the nations, and the water of which will give life to the oceans again. This river will flow out from under the throne from which Jesus will rule the world. And the Jews will again practice sacrifice in this temple, with very strict rules to follow. The prophets speak of this plainly.
 
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If anyone took the time and in earnest study the history of Israel, they will see that Almighty God had a hand on them to bring them into existence yet again, we won't even use the Bible. Far too many things have happened and by any "normal" standards would have turned out differently.
GOD BLESS ISRAEL, for the Lord Himself has kept His promises and has watched over His Word to perform it, THE TIME OF THE AGE IS NOW

Some say Christ has no use for the Temple....so how come He so defended the Temple in His day calling it the House of His Father's?....surely if He replaced what the Temple stood for He would have not had anything to do with it?
 
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NewJerusalem

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CUP o RUIN is on it!

Cup, refreshing to hear posts from a studied disciple.

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NewJerusalem

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Israel exists to day aginst all odds. The fact that we are there is a miracle; there is no other explanation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v0wCpuTBMs

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4v0wCpuTBMs[/video]

The Miracle Of The Survival Of Israel
Sure, a physical land of Israel exists, just as America exists as a physical country and world government. I agree with that.
 
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NewJerusalem

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woops, didnt mean to copy the video box. lol
 
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Graybeard

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There are many stories from the "Against All Odds" series....but still there will be none so blind as that those who will not see!!
 
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NewJerusalem

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There are many stories from the "Against All Odds" series....but still there will be none so blind as that those who will not see!!
Sometimes our "blindness" is in "seeing amiss", something that is not in Scripture and something that we attempt to force into the Word more so than "not seeing"..

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miktre

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Pretty amazing if you mean how many people they murdered to get that land. Pretty amazing if you consider that the Israeli army is full of homosexuals, more than any other army. Pretty amazing if you consider how many they keep murdering and 13% of Palestinians are CHRISTIAN!

[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lSp-oIOhq00[/video]

Pretty amazing how they kill to harvest organs
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3zjep6w_PE[/video]


Pretty amazing how they attack American ships and nothing is done about it
[video]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzeA9GAeUBg[/video]
 
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NewJerusalem

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Miktre..............

Interesting points.

Interesting how Zionists for years prior to the so called "re-birthing" of Israel worked hard with Great Britain and USA mostly to force a country Israel because this is what they believed Scripture to say and wanted to bring what they believed was Bible Prophecy to pass.

Interesting how hundred's/thousand's of Palastinian "CHRISTIANS" were forced to leave and ended up homeless due to what was supposed to be a move of God and fulfillment of Bible Prophecy. When this happens anywhere else it is called evil, antichrist and a horrible atrocity. But somehow people seem to think Jews are somehow holy, even though they remain antichrist in rejecting Messiah. Only those IN Christ, believers, are of His Body, whether formerly Jew or Gentile.
 
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Graybeard

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Jerusalem belongs to the Jews..get over it. God said it, God will do it. How He does it is of no concern to anyone.
 
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NewJerusalem

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Jerusalem belongs to the Jews..get over it. God said it, God will do it. How He does it is of no concern to anyone.
The only Jerusalem which matters today and forever is the Jerusalem which is above. The eternal, not the temporary.

As far as getting over it, yes, i guess getting "over it" would be the Jerusalem which is above.

You really need to read your Bible and stop taking others word for it. ;)
 
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11 Next I saw heaven opened, and there before me was a white horse. Sitting on it was the one called Faithful and True, and it is in righteousness that he passes judgment and goes to battle.

12 His eyes were like a fiery flame, and on his head were many royal crowns. And he had a name written which no one knew but himself.

13 He was wearing a robe that had been soaked in blood, and the name by which he is called is, "THE WORD OF GOD."

14 The armies of heaven, clothed in fine linen, white and pure, were following him on white horses.

15 And out of his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down nations - "He will rule them with a staff of iron." It is he who treads the winepress from which flows the wine of the furious rage of ADONAI, God of heaven's armies.

16 And on his robe and on his thigh he has a name written: KING OF KINGS AND LORD OF LORDS.

17 Then I saw an angel standing in the sun, and he cried out in a loud voice to all the birds that fly about in mid-heaven, "Come, gather together for the great feast God is giving,

18 to eat the flesh of kings, the flesh of generals, the flesh of important men, the flesh of horses and their riders and the flesh of all kinds of people, free and slave, small and great!" (Rev.19:11)
15 The seventh angel sounded his shofar; and there were loud voices in heaven, saying, "The kingdom of the world has become the Kingdom of our Lord and his Messiah, and he will rule forever and ever!"

16 The twenty-four elders sitting on their thrones in God's presence fell on their faces and worshipped God,

17 saying, "We thank you, ADONAI, God of heaven's armies, the One who is and was, that you have taken your power and have begun to rule.

18 "The Goyim raged. But now your rage has come, (Rev.11)

1 Why are the nations in an uproar, the peoples grumbling in vain?

2 The earth's kings are taking positions, leaders conspiring together, against ADONAI and his anointed.

3 They cry, "Let's break their fetters! Let's throw off their chains!"

4 He who sits in heaven laughs; Adonai looks at them in derision.

5 Then in his anger he rebukes them, terrifies them in his fury.

6 "I myself have installed my king on Tziyon, my holy mountain."

7 "I will proclaim the decree: ADONAI said to me, 'You are my son; today I became your father.

8 Ask of me, and I will make the nations your inheritance; the whole wide world will be your possession.

9 You will break them with an iron rod, shatter them like a clay pot.'"

10 Therefore, kings, be wise; be warned, you judges of the earth.

11 Serve ADONAI with fear; rejoice, but with trembling.

12 Kiss the son, lest he be angry, and you perish along the way, when suddenly his anger blazes. How blessed are all who take refuge in him. (Psalms 2)

17 Another angel came out of the Temple in heaven, and he too had a sharp sickle.

18 Then out from the altar went yet another angel, who was in charge of the fire; and he called in a loud voice to the one with the sharp sickle, "Use your sharp sickle, and gather the clusters of grapes from the earth's vine, because they are ripe!"

19 The angel swung his sickle down onto the earth, gathered the earth's grapes and threw them into the great winepress of God's fury.

20 The winepress was trodden outside the city, and blood flowed from the winepress as high as the horses' bridles for two hundred miles! (Rev.14)

1 A psalm of David: ADONAI says to my Lord, "Sit at my right hand, until I make your enemies your footstool."

2 ADONAI will send your powerful scepter out from Tziyon, so that you will rule over your enemies around you.

3 On the day your forces mobilize, your people willingly offer themselves in holy splendors from the womb of the dawn; the dew of your youth is yours.

4 ADONAI has sworn it, and he will never retract -"You are a cohen forever, to be compared with Malki-Tzedek."

5 Adonai at your right hand will shatter kings on the day of his anger.

6 He will pass judgment among the nations, filling it with dead bodies; he will shatter heads throughout an extensive territory.

7 He will drink from a stream as he goes on his way; therefore he will hold his head high. (Psalms 110)

Will you turn your back on Messiah as well, when you find out, He is not coming back as a baby in a manger; but as a Mighty Warrior? All you are doing is showing Scripture to be True. The Word says that the nations will be gathered together against Israel and thier God. It looks like you have chosin your side.
 
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miktre

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Accually your fake messiah will be satan.


2 Thessalonians 2 (King James Version)

2 Thessalonians 2

1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,
2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.
3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?
6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.
7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.
8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:
9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12That they all might be ****ed who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
16Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,
17Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.
 
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ASSIYAH

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Accually your fake messiah will be satan.
2 Thessalonians 2 (King James Version)

2 Thessalonians 2

1Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him,

2That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand.

3Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first,

For the Day will not come until after the Apostasy has come,

A falling away from what???

and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;

and the man who separates himself from Torah has been revealed, the one destined for doom;

Who is the man of sin, and what is sin

4Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped;

so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.

5Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things?

6And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time.

What is the falling away???

7For the mystery of iniquity doth already work:

7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; NKJV

7 For already this separating from Torah is at work secretly, CJB

The falling away is a Falling away from Torah!

only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way.

8And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming:

9Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,

10And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.

11And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

12That they all might be ****ed who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Gods Torah is Truth, and all those who take pleasure in unrighteousness hate the Torah. Just like their father the man of sin/Lawlessness/Torahlessness.

13But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:

14Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.

15Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.

16Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace,

17Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work.

I am looking for Yeshua not the antiMessiah! This chapter is about those who hate the Torah, and how they will be easily deceived by the one whose coming is after the working of satan, with all power and signs and lying wonders they will trust him; because they have hated Torah.
 
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12That they all might be ****ed who believed not the truth,
Is this how the spirit has taught you how to treat The Word of the Most High God?
 
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