Ten Commandments According to Obama

[starfield]

1 John 2:18 says "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time”. There is no specific person designated as the antichrist (as people say it might be Obama); Paul said here that there were antichrists in his time, so there are definitely antichrists today. Anyone that denies the Lord Jesus Christ, persecutes the church, and hinders the spread of the gospel is an antichrist. The spirit of the antichrists is in our mist, they are in the churches...some are even preachers leading people to hell.

Daniel 11:37 says "He shall regard neither the God of his fathers nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above them all". This prophecy is about the personality of the antichrist and they are evident today. He will not need God or any other false deities but will be proud and do according to his own will.

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

Ok yes, I don't agree with everything he says and does, but I believe that we should still respect and pray for a president. Roman 13:1 Every person is to be in subjection to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those which exist are established by God.
So no matter what Obama does, even if he claims to be Christian and doesn't act like it, he is going to have to answer to God someday. But its our responsibility as Christians to respect him.

So you say that no matter what anybody does on earth no matter how many babies they murder or how many innocent civilians they kill and maim or torture in foreign lands, no matter what Christians should respect that and pray for it!!!! Well that is madness, that is not Christianity.....People quote Paul as if that somehow justifies madness, Paul is talking about the heirachy of the church, he is taling about subjection to authority in the body of Christ, he is not telling Christians to show respect and do what ever murdering thieving fraudsters tell you to do and then pray for them that is ridiculous. And again Sermon on the Mount is directed to the difference between Christ's diciples and followers at the Semon, those people that were present, many of whom had been from different families, clans and positions in life, but as Christians they put asside differences, but if they are not Christians than you are to have nothing to do with them, God does not say go do the will of lying anti-christs, that's simply untrue, He says go do My will!

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

1 John 2:18 says "Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time”. There is no specific person designated as the antichrist (as people say it might be Obama); Paul said here that there were antichrists in his time, so there are definitely antichrists today. Anyone that denies the Lord Jesus Christ, persecutes the church, and hinders the spread of the gospel is an antichrist. The spirit of the antichrists is in our mist, they are in the churches...some are even preachers leading people to hell.

Daniel 11:37 says "He shall regard neither the Godof his fathers nor the desire of women, nor regard any god; for he shall exalt himself above them all". This prophecy is about the personality of the antichrist and they are evident today. He will not need God or any other false deities but will be proud and do according to his own will.

Well there are alot of anti-christs already in the world, and as John says they were their in his day, in fact there are millions of anti-christs in the world, and we see silly little pretend christians waiting for one future Anti-Christ, meanwhile the world is literally over run with millions of them....

 

[MahogonySnail]

Cup based on past discussions I don't think you have a clue as to what and what is not an anti-Christ.

 

[starfield]

Well there are alot of anti-christs already in the world, and as John says they were their in his day, in fact there are millions of anti-christs in the world, and we see silly little pretend christians waiting for one future Anti-Christ, meanwhile the world is literally over run with millions of them....

2 John 1:7 "For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist" (NASB).

"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist" (KJV)

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

2 John 1:7 "For many deceivers have gone out into the world, those who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This is the deceiver and the antichrist" (NASB).

"For many deceivers are entered into the world, who confess not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh. This is a deceiver and an antichrist" (KJV)

This is true, there are many, anyone that does not confess truthfully that Jesus Christ is God come in the flesh and is the Lord, then they are an anti-christ and a deciever...

 

[imepaula]

So you say that no matter what anybody does on earth no matter how many babies they murder or how many innocent civilians they kill and maim or torture in foreign lands, no matter what Christians should respect that and pray for it!!!! Well that is madness, that is not Christianity.....People quote Paul as if that somehow justifies madness, Paul is talking about the heirachy of the church, he is taling about subjection to authority in the body of Christ, he is not telling Christians to show respect and do what ever murdering thieving fraudsters tell you to do and then pray for them that is ridiculous. And again Sermon on the Mount is directed to the difference between Christ's diciples and followers at the Semon, those people that were present, many of whom had been from different families, clans and positions in life, but as Christians they put asside differences, but if they are not Christians than you are to have nothing to do with them, God does not say go do the will of lying anti-christs, that's simply untrue, He says go do My will!

Yes, this is exactly what I am saying. The Bible tells us to respect the authority. Romans 13:1-7
Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment. For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval, for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience.
God puts rulers up and he will bring rulers down. God had a plan when Hitler was dictator, so we have to respect our president and pray for Him. And about having nothing to do with them. If Jesus didn't have anything to do with sinners we'd all be on our ay to hell. Christ dined with sinners. We shouldn't shun sinners we should show them love through Christ Jesus. I'm not saying do what Obama does I'm just saying we need to respect him.

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

Yes, this is exactly what I am saying. The Bible tells us to respect the authority. Romans 13:1-7

W -I - T - H - I - N the body of Christ, within Christianity!!!!!!

Let every person be subject to the governing authorities.

Paul was establishing a Church, he does not mean be subjects of anti-christs! If the devil tells you to kill an unborn baby, do you subject yourself to his worldly authority????

For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God.

That is Godly authority, is it Godly authority or does the power come from Satan...If you say that the authority for evil comes from God, the practitioners of evil whom have worldly authority if you claim that is by God's power than you blaspheme against Him, by degrading His holy character! Was Stalin appointed by God to torture and murder Christians, was Nero?????

Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.

Oh you will be judged allright, don't worry about that...


Choose whether you serve God and Baal.

When the mark of the beast is issued you will be a prime candidate.

Obama - "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds get ugly."

 

[Musicfan4ever]

One thing all of us need to be doing is humbling ourselves & seeking God's face as 2nd Chronicles 7:14 says. We also need to remember that GOD NOT Obama is in control. We need to keep our eyes on God NOT on Obama!

 

[imepaula]

Yes, this is exactly what I am saying. The Bible tells us to respect the authority. Romans 13:1-7

W -I - T - H - I - N the body of Christ, within Christianity!!!!!!



Paul was establishing a Church, he does not mean be subjects of anti-christs! If the devil tells you to kill an unborn baby, do you subject yourself to his worldly authority????




That is Godly authority, is it Godly authority or does the power come from Satan...If you say that the authority for evil comes from God, the practitioners of evil whom have worldly authority if you claim that is by God's power than you blaspheme against Him, by degrading His holy character! Was Stalin appointed by God to torture and murder Christians, was Nero?????



Oh you will be judged allright, don't worry about that...


Choose whether you serve God and Baal.

When the mark of the beast is issued you will be a prime candidate.

Obama - "I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds get ugly."

Ok , its obvious we have different opinions which is ok No i would never kill an unborn baby. Yes Stalin was; we may not understand but he was. God bring rulers up and brings them down. I don't understand why God does things I don't think anyone really does but he is God and he does what he wants.

 

[Ancilla]

I. Thou shalt have no God in America, except for me. For we are no longer a Christian nation and, after all, I am the chosen One. (And like God, I do not have a birth certificate.) SOURCE
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+1]II. Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, unless it is my face carved on Mt. Rushmore.[/SIZE][/FONT] SOURCE
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+1]III. Thou shalt not utter my middle name in vain (or in public). Only I can say Barack Hussein Obama.[/SIZE][/FONT] SOURCE
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+1]IV. Remember tax day, April 15th, to keep it holy. [/SIZE][/FONT]SOURCE
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+1]V. Honour thy father and thy mother until they are too old and sick to care for. They will cost our public-funded health-care system too much money.[/SIZE][/FONT] SOURCE
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+1]VI. Thou shalt not kill, unless you have an unwanted, unborn baby. For it would be an abomination to punish your daughter with a baby.[/SIZE][/FONT] SOURCE
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+1]VII. Thou shalt not commit adultery if you are conservative or a Republican. Liberals and Democrats are hereby forgiven for all of their infidelity and immorality, but the careers of conservatives will be forever destroyed. [/SIZE][/FONT]SOURCE
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+1]VIII. Thou shalt not steal, until you've been elected to public office. Only then is it acceptable to take money from hard-working, successful citizens and give it to those who do not work, illegal immigrants, or those who do not have the motivation to better their own lives.[/SIZE][/FONT] SOURCE
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+1]IX. Thou shalt not discriminate against thy neighbor unless they are conservative, Caucasian, or Christian.[/SIZE][/FONT] SOURCE
[FONT=Georgia, Times New Roman, Times, serif][SIZE=+1]X. Thou shalt not covet because it is simply unnecessary. I will place such a heavy tax burden on those that have achieved the American Dream that, by the end of my term as President, nobody will have any wealth or material goods left for you to covet.[/SIZE][/FONT] SOURCE
from the GOPUSA
Maggie

The above just makes me want to weep. This is a Bible Discussion Forum, not a place to mock the Ten Commandments and spread slander about one's head of state. We should keep Maggie and whoever wrote this in our prayers.

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

Ok , its obvious we have different opinions which is ok No i would never kill an unborn baby. Yes Stalin was; we may not understand but he was. God bring rulers up and brings them down. I don't understand why God does things I don't think anyone really does but he is God and he does what he wants.

Where do you get the understanding that God appointed Stalin to murder Christians? where do you get that knowledge from? How do you know that Stalin was doing exactly what God wanted him to do? How could you possibly come to that conclusion????? You certainly aren't afraid of charging crimes to God's account are you? I would submit to you that you want to be careful when you claim that the Holy God is responsible for the crimes of men, if He is not responsible than you have beared false witness against God Himself, and blasphemed His holy and merciful charater.

What does Jesus Christ say:

"He that is of God, heareth God's words: ye therefore do not hear them, because ye are not from God." John 8:47

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do, he was a murderer from the beginning. When he speaketh a lie he speaketh it on his own: for he is a liar, and the father there of." John 8:44

Well as you can see Jesus Christ says He is not responsible for muderers and liars, God says that they are liars and murderers because they are not from God, they are not sent by Him, but are of their father the devil....

But you claim that God who is Jesus Christ is responsible for murderers and liars like Stalin, you charge Stalin's crimes against God's children to God's own account!!!! Are you crazy??????? Have a think about it!!!!

 

[imepaula]

Where do you get the understanding that God appointed Stalin to murder Christians? where do you get that knowledge from? How do you know that Stalin was doing exactly what God wanted him to do? How could you possibly come to that conclusion????? You certainly aren't afraid of charging crimes to God's account are you? I would submit to you that you want to be careful when you claim that the Holy God is responsible for the crimes of men, if He is not responsible than you have beared false witness against God Himself, and blasphemed His holy and merciful charater.

What does Jesus Christ say:

"He that is of God, heareth God's words: ye therefore do not hear them, because ye are not from God." John 8:47

"Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do, he was a murderer from the beginning. When he speaketh a lie he speaketh it on his own: for he is a liar, and the father there of." John 8:44

Well as you can see Jesus Christ says He is not responsible for muderers and liars, God says that they are liars and murderers because they are not from God, they are not sent by Him, but are of their father the devil....

But you claim that God who is Jesus Christ is responsible for murderers and liars like Stalin, you charge Stalin's crimes against God's children to God's own account!!!! Are you crazy??????? Have a think about it!!!!

I'm not saying Jesus Christ is responsible but rulers can only come into power if he allows it and he will bring them down. God knew exactly what Stalin was going to do but he had a purpose in allowing it to happen. Just like God has a purpose when bad things happen to us Christians.

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

I'm not saying Jesus Christ is responsible but rulers can only come into power if he allows it and he will bring them down. God knew exactly what Stalin was going to do but he had a purpose in allowing it to happen. Just like God has a purpose when bad things happen to us Christians.

Yea, I can't argue with that, God certainly knew, so He is compliant and accepting of those events, it does say in Leviticus "I will appoint over you terror" and "they that hate you will reign over you" and "ye shall be delivered into the hand of your enemy".

So certainly God indeed can deliver a christian into the hands of an enemy if God feels as though He has been disobeyed, and if we look at our current situation, God may indeed allow the unholy enemies to rule.

But the charge would still be on our account and not God's, because if we disobey His laws and standards then we certainly don't deserve a good leader.

 

[imepaula]

Yea, I can't argue with that, God certainly knew, so He is compliant and accepting of those events, it does say in Leviticus "I will appoint over you terror" and "they that hate you will reign over you" and "ye shall be delivered into the hand of your enemy".

So certainly God indeed can deliver a christian into the hands of an enemy if God feels as though He has been disobeyed, and if we look at our current situation, God may indeed allow the unholy enemies to rule.

But the charge would still be on our account and not God's, because if we disobey His laws and standards then we certainly don't deserve a good leader.

Yes I agree . I don't know about your country but America certainly has drifted away from God

 

[Cup-of-Ruin]

Yes I agree . I don't know about your country but America certainly has drifted away from God

My country I would say is just as bad if not worse.

 

[MahogonySnail]

That is assuming that America and Australia was firmly estsablished in God in the first place, which I am not totally convinced of personally. Australia was founded as a bunch of British emperialist (imperialist?) white-supremicist convicts and their masters. The only nation which can claim to be firmly established in God from the beginning, is Israel.

 

[Jordan9]

This thread has made me nauseous. I can't get out of mainline protestantism fast enough, if this is what it's devolved to.

 

[broken]

This thread has made me nauseous. I can't get out of mainline protestantism fast enough, if this is what it's devolved to.

I couldn't agree more.

 

[superdave5221]

The reason that this country does not have good rulers is the same reason that ancient Israel did not. Because of apostasy! Compare the split of Israel after Solomon's death. Rehoboam was faced with tribal leaders who were asking for relief from the heavy taxation of Solomon for his many government building projects. Rehoboam first got counsel from the older generation, who had been in the government. They gave him good advice. They said that if he (Rehoboam) would bow to the wishes of the people for one day, that they would follow him for a lifetime. Rehoboam next asked the younger generation, his friends who told him to tell the people "My little finger is bigger than my father's thigh. Whereas he chastised you with whips, I will chastise you with scorpions". And Rehoboam instead increased the burden on the people. Sound familiar?

Jeroboam, another of Solomon's sons, then led ten of the tribes to split with Judah, and Israel was never the strong country it was under David and Solomon. When Rehoboam begin to raise an army to force Israel back into the country, the prophets told him that it was God's will to split the country. Why? Because of Solomon's apostasy. He had over 1000 wives and concubines, many of whom practiced the idolatry of the countries that they came from.

Do we practice idolatry today? I will let each one answer that question themselves. But if Obama is a bad president, who will lead this country down a road to disaster, then he is annointed by God for that purpose, and we have only our own apostasy to blame for it.