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DinoDillinger

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Christians in the news?
What's the topic?

1.Abortion
2.Gay Marriage
3.Prayer/10 commandments in public places
4.insert current republican economic issue

These are what we are known for.

The actual reason for my post lol is because I feel like ranting... The christian talk/sermon station with the best reception in my town has like a 1 or 2 hour show everyday in rush hour primetime, american's for civil justice I believe is the political groups name who airs the show it seems. The topic is always political from what I can tell and our christian banner for this current time is Healthcare. I suppose that social healthcare is sinful, now a main talking point I concede is public funding for banner #1 Abortion, which I am against ofcourse. The thing is I'm pretty sure with all possibility of that being funded excluded they would still be trying to excite the 'christian base' to fight public healthcare funding. If I wanted to listen to this stuff I could flip on rush or something.

I suppose that Jesus is against high taxes, regulations of just about any sort, socialism, and the entire liberal agenda.

Just to cover 1 through 3 a bit so things aren't assumed.

1. Abortion- It's bad, it's a sin, at what point a soul is in a baby doesn't even need to be considered to consider it that. That being said, christians on the news at abortion clinics with posters of how bad it is, sometimes with looks of rage screaming and carrying on, not to mention bombings or anything doesn't help matters I think. Much less show the character of our savoir.

2.Gay marriage- I think it's the man laying with a man that's the sin, so making the big deal on the marriage part tends to just look biggoted when no mention is made of the rampant fornication that takes place in the heterosexual community. Ever try witnessing to a gay person? All that they hear about from us is that they are going to hell BECAUSE they are gay. We all should know there are so many sins on the most moral of men's heads that the gay part is just a piece of the pie. Now the matter INSIDE of the church is a whole other issue.

3.Prayer/10 commandments- What ever happened to don't be like the pharisees? Can they stop you from praying? I don't know, but it seems like a bit of this one is people wanting to let everyone know that they are a christian by them praying. Is that supposed to be fruit or something? Secular people are really going over the line lately with all the things they are trying to remove but making a big stand on the 10 commandments seems hypocritical being made by someone who themselves has broke every one and some point in their lives. Remember what you were saved from?

My ranting done, I do believe these 3 should be defended by christians, BUT they should not be our banner, that should always be Christ. He said you will know us by our LOVE.

God Bless
 
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greatkraw

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Christians in the news?
What's the topic?

1.Abortion
2.Gay Marriage
3.Prayer/10 commandments in public places
4.insert current republican economic issue

These are what we are known for.

The actual reason for my post lol is because I feel like ranting... The christian talk/sermon station with the best reception in my town has like a 1 or 2 hour show everyday in rush hour primetime, american's for civil justice I believe is the political groups name who airs the show it seems. The topic is always political from what I can tell and our christian banner for this current time is Healthcare. I suppose that social healthcare is sinful, now a main talking point I concede is public funding for banner #1 Abortion, which I am against ofcourse. The thing is I'm pretty sure with all possibility of that being funded excluded they would still be trying to excite the 'christian base' to fight public healthcare funding. If I wanted to listen to this stuff I could flip on rush or something.

I suppose that Jesus is against high taxes, regulations of just about any sort, socialism, and the entire liberal agenda.

Just to cover 1 through 3 a bit so things aren't assumed.

1. Abortion- It's bad, it's a sin, at what point a soul is in a baby doesn't even need to be considered to consider it that. That being said, christians on the news at abortion clinics with posters of how bad it is, sometimes with looks of rage screaming and carrying on, not to mention bombings or anything doesn't help matters I think. Much less show the character of our savoir.

2.Gay marriage- I think it's the man laying with a man that's the sin, so making the big deal on the marriage part tends to just look biggoted when no mention is made of the rampant fornication that takes place in the heterosexual community. Ever try witnessing to a gay person? All that they hear about from us is that they are going to hell BECAUSE they are gay. We all should know there are so many sins on the most moral of men's heads that the gay part is just a piece of the pie. Now the matter INSIDE of the church is a whole other issue.

3.Prayer/10 commandments- What ever happened to don't be like the pharisees? Can they stop you from praying? I don't know, but it seems like a bit of this one is people wanting to let everyone know that they are a christian by them praying. Is that supposed to be fruit or something? Secular people are really going over the line lately with all the things they are trying to remove but making a big stand on the 10 commandments seems hypocritical being made by someone who themselves has broke every one and some point in their lives. Remember what you were saved from?

My ranting done, I do believe these 3 should be defended by christians, BUT they should not be our banner, that should always be Christ. He said you will know us by our LOVE.

God Bless
i think you are entitled to rant
 
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Yes Americans ranting is one of my favorite means of entertainment.
 
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greatkraw

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I dont know of any that can hold a candle to Cup of Ruin:)
 

DinoDillinger

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Jul 28, 2009
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I dont know of any that can hold a candle to Cup of Ruin:)
I wouldn't call what Cup does ranting, actually I don't think I have a big enough vocabulary to give it a word, but not ranting:)
 
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ChristsArmorBearer

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The banner of American christianity?

Goodness the sermon I could preach on this one but I won't because it would most likely offend every person everyone in CC including myself! *lol* Seriously though, if there is one point I'd like to get across to every beliver across every denomination is to be honest with both yourself and God and humbly and sincerely ask the Holy Spirit to reveal to you any areas in your life that are unpleasing to Him then do everything within your power to make those changes. If everyone (myself included) were to put personal pride to side and took a long hard look into the mirror, then did something about it, the church would look and act alot diiferently.
 
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charisenexcelcis

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So, what are the gods of America:
1. Self
2. Materialism
3. Choice
(I am sure that there are others, but these three come to mind.)
The problem is that the church in america is too culturalized. We have come to accept these three things as good, perhaps even godly. I think it is interesting that the chapter describing the harlot has much more economic description than religious. In fact, most of the religious interpretation comes either from comparison to Old Testament passages or by connotation rather than denotation. My point being that Americans, who pride themselves in their fascination with escatology may be the worst in being swept in. "Come out of her, my people, that you may not receive of her plagues; for her sins have piled up as high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities."
So, the church in America must clean their own house, stop being hypocritical in their criticism af a culture that they themselves enspouse, become salt and light again, and preach the good news of Jesus Christ in a fashion reflecting the grace and love of God toward America.
 
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lil-rush

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Goodness. I thought the banner was hypocrisy. Kind of like word association. Say the word "Christian" to a nonbeliever, and their response would be "hypocrite."

As to the ten commandments one, an agnostic I know said the ironic thing is that so many Christians fight to keep the ten commandments in the court and such, but most of them can't list the ten commandments to you if you asked. Something like: "What're the ten commandments?" "Oh, uhm... thou shall have no other gods before me, don't steal, kill, lie, uhh...honor you parents...I can't remember the rest."

I get annoyed by the double-standard with homosexuality too. Everyone is so quick to say homosexuality is a sin, but rarely talk about fornication and adultery being a sin as well.
 
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ChristsArmorBearer

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So, what are the gods of America:
1. Self
2. Materialism
3. Choice
(I am sure that there are others, but these three come to mind.)
The problem is that the church in america is too culturalized. We have come to accept these three things as good, perhaps even godly. I think it is interesting that the chapter describing the harlot has much more economic description than religious. In fact, most of the religious interpretation comes either from comparison to Old Testament passages or by connotation rather than denotation. My point being that Americans, who pride themselves in their fascination with escatology may be the worst in being swept in. "Come out of her, my people, that you may not receive of her plagues; for her sins have piled up as high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities."
So, the church in America must clean their own house, stop being hypocritical in their criticism af a culture that they themselves enspouse, become salt and light again, and preach the good news of Jesus Christ in a fashion reflecting the grace and love of God toward America.
I whole heartedly agree. America, as a nation, is guilty of horrible abominations since becoming one of if not the most influencial nations in the entire history of the world. However, most America christians believe that were are a"righteous nation" and somehow exempt from God's judgment. As a nation, nothing could be further from the truth.

I personally believe that the only reason why the bottom hasn't fallen out from underneath America isn't so much because of the "church". God proved in the exodus account that He can judge a nation and keep his people from harm simultaneously. I believe America has been protected for such a time as this, the rebuilding and the protection of Israel until the hour of end time biblical prophecy is to be fulfilled. If you are indeed familiar with such prophecy, you understand that in those days the global economy is very unfavorable to the American way of life. One could safely assume that the global economy progresses in that direction because in spite of the United States, thus weakening it's power structure to a point of global impotency in the desire to annihilate Israel driven by oil rich Muslim nations.
 
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easygoing

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So, what are the gods of America:
1. Self
2. Materialism
3. Choice
(I am sure that there are others, but these three come to mind.)
The problem is that the church in america is too culturalized. We have come to accept these three things as good, perhaps even godly. I think it is interesting that the chapter describing the harlot has much more economic description than religious. In fact, most of the religious interpretation comes either from comparison to Old Testament passages or by connotation rather than denotation. My point being that Americans, who pride themselves in their fascination with escatology may be the worst in being swept in. "Come out of her, my people, that you may not receive of her plagues; for her sins have piled up as high as heaven, and God has remembered her iniquities."
So, the church in America must clean their own house, stop being hypocritical in their criticism af a culture that they themselves enspouse, become salt and light again, and preach the good news of Jesus Christ in a fashion reflecting the grace and love of God toward America.




You forgot the biggest one.. politically correct. Under those 2 words lay an endless buffet for americans to feed their own desires on and base virtually any argument on.
 
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