The Bible and other gods

[Pilgrimshope]

Israel fell mostly because God told them-do not take foreign wives. but after killing many men, many women were left and they took foreign wives who worshipped false gods and they would give in. The kings gave in many times. Solomon married foreign wives even though he had about 700. He fell to false god worship. So its wise to listen to God every step. Satan has proved he is very powerful and can fool the best of them. Peter who saw miracle after miracle denied Jesus 3x out of fear of men, he stood back up quickly though. Satan does it like this-2Corinthians 11:12-15. This is how intelligent mortals are in comparison to satan.
1 week after the Israelites saw God part the red sea in front of their faces and save their lives, made a golden calf to worship.
No wonder the bibles advice is--Be like the Boreans and make sure of all things.

really I thought it was because of this

“Behold, I set before you this day a blessing and a curse; A blessing, if ye obey the commandments of the Lord your God, which I command you this day: And a curse, if ye will not obey the commandments of the Lord your God, but turn aside out of the way which I command you this day, to go after other gods, which ye have not known.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭11:26-28‬ ‭

and then I thought God told Noah this before his death

“And the Lord said unto Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers; and this people will rise up, and go a whoring after the gods of the strangers of the land, whither they go to be among them, and will forsake me, and break my covenant which I have made with them.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭31:16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

and I thought when they entered the promised land they did this repeatedly

“And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the Lord, and served Baalim: And they forsook the Lord God of their fathers, which brought them out of the land of Egypt, and followed other gods, of the gods of the people that were round about them, and bowed themselves unto them, and provoked the Lord to anger.”
‭‭Judges‬ ‭2:11-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Isn’t that the running narrative throughout the ot ? Didn’t they chase God away and cause him to leave the temple because they worshipped false gods over and over ?

“He said furthermore unto me, Son of man, seest thou what they do? even the great abominations that the house of Israel committeth here, that I should go far off from my sanctuary?

…And he said unto me, Go in, and behold the wicked abominations that they do here. So I went in and saw; and behold every form of creeping things, and abominable beasts, and all the idols of the house of Israel, portrayed upon the wall round about.

And there stood before them seventy men of the ancients of the house of Israel, and in the midst of them stood Jaazaniah the son of Shaphan, with every man his censer in his hand; and a thick cloud of incense went up. Then said he unto me, Son of man, hast thou seen what the ancients of the house of Israel do in the dark, every man in the chambers of his imagery?

for they say, The Lord seeth us not; the Lord hath forsaken the earth.

And he brought me into the inner court of the Lord's house, and, behold, at the door of the temple of the Lord, between the porch and the altar, were about five and twenty men, with their backs toward the temple of the Lord, and their faces toward the east; and they worshipped the sun toward the east.”
‭‭Ezekiel‬ ‭8:6-7, 9-12, 16‬ ‭KJV‬‬

isn’t the whole idea about Israel whoring themselves out to other gods a main theme of the ot ? I’m not sure we should always blame women for the evils of The world seems like it’s always the wife that gets blamed but as far as I recall the preists we’re men as well
As the prophets and they were the ones who led israel Into a curse

I’m pretty sure idolatry worship was israels Downfall again and again every time he restored them They did it again bit God told Moses beforehand what was going to happen and why so it isnt a surprise

All that being said yea intermarriage was a problem that helped idolatry spread I agree with that part. It wasn’t thier main issue though idolatry was even before they got out of the desert or married any foreigner

Immediately before Moses even came off the Mount th the commandments God just had spoken look at how ingrained idolatry was in them

“And the Lord said unto Moses, Go, get thee down; for thy people, which thou broughtest out of the land of Egypt, have corrupted themselves: They have turned aside quickly out of the way which I commanded them: they have made them a molten calf, and have worshipped it, and have sacrificed thereunto, and said, These be thy gods, O Israel, which have brought thee up out of the land of Egypt.”
‭‭Exodus‬ ‭32:7-8‬ ‭

they had spent 400 years in Egypt without hearing from God so it stands to
Make sense that they learned idolatry from Egypt

 

[CS1]

I am a Christian who believes everything in the Bible and accepts the teachings of Jesus as absolute truth. It cannot be denied that my beliefs are very Christ-like, but I have a view that differs from other Christians.

Over 99.9% of Christians think that God is the only real god. They figure all the gods and goddesses in the Hindu religion, as well as the pagan gods who don’t have any adherents today, aren’t real. Maybe they think those deities are human invention and imagination, but it seems like most believers in Christ haven’t thought about the other gods.

I used to think that God of the Bible was the only god and believed that all humans started out as polytheistic, but then evolved into monotheism (which I interpreted to be the only correct view). At the time I figured that the Hindus, who pray to many different gods, hadn’t quite caught up with everyone else.

But one day I found out that other gods exist. I don’t feel like writing many paragraphs explaining how this happened, so just take my word for it.

I’ve had contact with several of the Hindu gods, and they seem very nice and caring. I also had contact with Baal Hadad, a bronze age god popular in the Near East who the Bible apparently doesn’t like much, as described in the Book of Exodus. He is also nice and caring.

I did some research to find out what the Bible says about the existence of other gods. Apparently the Jews in the Old Testament believed that multiple gods existed, but Yahweh (God) was the correct and only god to follow. You can read about it here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henotheism#Canaanite_religion_and_Yahwism There appears to be several verses in the Bible that suggest other gods are real such as Psalms 96:4: “For great is the Lord and most worthy of praise; he is to be feared above all gods.” Notice here that scripture says gods instead of idols. Gods implies they are real, but if it said idols that would imply imagination.

I am posting this thread to get other people’s input. What do you think about the existence of other gods? Do you think it’s possible that other gods exist? Or is God of the Bible the only god who is real? If you don’t believe it’s possible for other infinite beings to exist, how do you explain the Bible passages that imply the existence of other gods? And also what about my experiences meeting other infinite beings? It was very real to me.

You have not offended me and I respect your opinion, however, we Christians formulate out understanding of God and others' gods from the word of God. Which we see in the scripture There is no other God but the God of Abraham the God of Issac and the God of Jacob. Every god mentioned in the bible outside one the ONE True God has the title Flase attached to it

Baal false, Dagon false Mollch false, Ashtar poles of worship false. YET demons are real and spiritual creatures are seen in the word of God.

Cherubim
Seraphim
winged beast
fallen angels
demons
they are gods in the lower forum to some but in the word of God, they are all created being BY The Only one true God.

 

[Heaven_Bound]

I absolutely did not use a Ouija board! That is a terrible “game” that attracts a certain demon named Zozo who likes to cause harm and mischief. That demon has a history of causing problems in my life. Sometimes he shows up and creates a lot of grief for me, thinking it is amusing.

He is a high rank demon and assistant to the High Devil. He told me he is one of Satan’s biological relatives. I’ve seen what he looks like, too. He is a terrible-looking shadowy thing who looks really evil. I actually know quite a bit about him, much more than other people, but enough of that demon. I don’t want to talk about him because he is so atrocious.

Communicating with other infinite beings—if that is what they are—happens the same way I communicate with God. It’s telepathically, meaning I speak words in my head, and since infinite beings have all-knowledge and all-perception they can hear me this way, and often they respond right away.

When I was 17, I went to a house party where it was high school teenagers, alcohol, and marijuana. I guess the teenager whose parents house it was at decided to shake things up. He went to his room and returned with a ouija board. Everyone was jumping to play and I was far enough away to see what was happening but had no intentions of playing. Sometime between the others acting stupid, asking who they would marry, if they would be wealthy, the eye spelled out, "I am not interested in any of you but the one not wanting to play."
Everyone knew it was me, I was clear i am not touching that thing before the others began playing. Finally, they were all saying but it wants you and how cool they thought it was to be chosen like that. Honestly, outside of thinking it was Demonic, I really thought it was fake and that people were just moving the eye on their merits.

I sat down and put my finger on the eye. Immediately it spelled out, I am David, the Son of Satan, and I am going to kill you. That was enough for me and I have never looked at one of those supposed games ever again.

I only asked about the ouija board because I agree it is Demon Possessed and an avenue to get to the human soul.

Concerning telepathically, When i speak to God in my Mind I address God by Father and then began talking to Him through my thoughts. I do get random thoughts that at times I feel is God giving me direction, ideas, meanings and answers. But when you talk to these other Entities, do you initiate the conversation, or do they have the freedom to communicate to you whenever they feel the need?

And just a side question, how did you discover the Demon's name was Zozo?

 

[Blik]

amen I think a lot of the false dieties began with ancient Egypt who worshipped many gods and had many idols I’ve always thought that’s probably why israel struggled so greatly with idolatry in the ot worshipping false gods

they spent 400 years there in Egypt and seems partook of many of thier idolatries

From my studies, it goes back to Nimrod, Noah's grandson, and the tower of Babel. Scripture doesn't speak much about this, but history we get from the extra writings gives us much of this history.

Nimrod made himself a God, ordering the tower to be built. Nimrod named what was called the first day of the week Sunday. He worshipped the sun on this day.

 

[CS1]

When I was 17, I went to a house party where it was high school teenagers, alcohol, and marijuana. I guess the teenager whose parents house it was at decided to shake things up. He went to his room and returned with a ouija board. Everyone was jumping to play and I was far enough away to see what was happening but had no intentions of playing. Sometime between the others acting stupid, asking who they would marry, if they would be wealthy, the eye spelled out, "I am not interested in any of you but the one not wanting to play."
Everyone knew it was me, I was clear i am not touching that thing before the others began playing. Finally, they were all saying but it wants you and how cool they thought it was to be chosen like that. Honestly, outside of thinking it was Demonic, I really thought it was fake and that people were just moving the eye on their merits.

I sat down and put my finger on the eye. Immediately it spelled out, I am David, the Son of Satan, and I am going to kill you. That was enough for me and I have never looked at one of those supposed games ever again.

I only asked about the ouija board because I agree it is Demon Possessed and an avenue to get to the human soul.

Concerning telepathically, When i speak to God in my Mind I address God by Father and then began talking to Him through my thoughts. I do get random thoughts that at times I feel is God giving me direction, ideas, meanings and answers. But when you talk to these other Entities, do you initiate the conversation, or do they have the freedom to communicate to you whenever they feel the need?

And just a side question, how did you discover the Demon's name was Zozo?

FYI having had the experience of casting out demons, we do not hold interviews with them or seek them out. why?

they are all lying devils no need to know their names they need to know you are a child of God who has authority in the name of Jesus to cast them out. Secondly address the Lord from your heart our mind is needing to be transformed by the word of God.

 

[Heaven_Bound]

FYI having had the experience of casting out demons, we do not hold interviews with them or seek them out. why?

they are all lying devils no need to know their names they need to know you are a child of God who has authority in the name of Jesus to cast them out. Secondly address the Lord from your heart our mind is needing to be transformed by the word of God.

If your opinion mattered, I would seek it out. I am having a discussion with the Op that does not include You!

 

[CS1]

If your opinion mattered, I would seek it out. I am having a discussion with the Op that does not include You!

The thread is open to all and you are not the originator of this thread topic. If you don't want to see what I post please place me on
" ignore".

 

[Heaven_Bound]

The thread is open to all and you are not the originator of this thread topic. If you don't want to see what I post please place me on
" ignore".

I don't need to ignore you, you have nothing to offer. The only real question I have, why are you following me now on 4 threads? Do I threaten you?

 

[JStates]

GoodRanger, in the Prayer Requests forum you asked for help with permanently expelling demons. You told in detail about the hellish torments you are experiencing at the hands of demonic entities. In that thread, I told you exactly what you need to do.

You are hanging over the pit of Hell, friend. Repent and beg Jesus Christ for salvation.

There is ONE Creator God and ONE Mediator between Him and man: the Lord Jesus Christ.

However, angelic beings in the Bible are sometimes referred to as sons of god and there are also demonic entities including the Father of Lies and Murder himself, Satan the Devil. The Bible also talks about principalities and powers, sometimes with an evil connotation and (I think, not 100% sure) sometimes neutrally. I think these terms refer to the authority structures and dominions (perhaps there are kingdoms or nations of angelic beings, I do not know) of angels and demons, some serving the Creator God and some opposing Him.

The Bible also talks about the seven spirits of God but does not go into great detail. Extrabiblical traditional sources give names to these spirits which coincide with some names in the Bible of angelic messengers and other angelic beings: Michael, Gabriel being the two that I remember off the top of my head. Angels however are messengers FROM God TO man and there's no reason why men should try to contact them.

And in fact several false religions have been founded when men encountered demonic beings. Islam and Mormonism being two religions begun when their founders had visions of shining angelic beings, which were in fact demonic entities or even Satan himself who can appear as an angel of light.

The bottom line is that YES there are spiritual beings out there, but they are NOT on the same level as the Creator God and there is no reason why a Christian should interact with them.

GoodRanger, I don't know if you are on medication (it sounds like this may be the case from your other posts) which makes you vulnerable to demonic entities or if you opened that door via some other means, but you are in a terrible place and only the grace of Jesus Christ can save you now.

You will surely die and be lost unless you repent of your sins and give yourself to the Lord Jesus. Go back to the thread where you asked for help with your demonic torments and do exactly what I told you to do there.

 

[Nehemiah6]

They figure all the gods and goddesses in the Hindu religion, as well as the pagan gods who don’t have any adherents today, aren’t real.

Well the Bible tells us that they are real. The Bible calls them "devils" or demons. Demons are indeed masquerading as false gods and have been ever since the Flood. Demons (including those associated with the false gods) are now firmly in control of all world governments, and the evidence is there for all to see. Totalitarianism, tyranny, despotism, daily lying and deception, persecution of the righteous and truth-tellers, and the list goes on (including the DECIMATION of human beings through bogus "vaccines"). Satan's agenda is to (a) steal, (b) kill, and (c) destroy, and that is being implemented on a daily basis.

 

[CS1]

I don't need to ignore you, you have nothing to offer. The only real question I have, why are you following me now on 4 threads? Do I threaten you?

I am not following you. are you having Delusions of grandeur? No, you do not threaten me LOl.

 

[Heaven_Bound]

I am not following you. are you having Delusions of grandeur? No, you do not threaten me LOl.

You are having a conversation about me and your situation on 1 thread, you are addressing me on this one, and the Tongues Thread you are desperately trying to accuse me of something I never did. You clearly got your pampers in a bunch and think i am the culprit!

 

[CS1]

You are having a conversation about me and your situation on 1 thread, you are addressing me on this one, and the Tongues Thread you are desperately trying to accuse me of something I never did. You clearly got your pampers in a bunch and think i am the culprit!

I will place you on "ignore" because I think you still have that ouija board stuffed in your pampers God bless

 

[Heaven_Bound]

I will place you on "ignore" because I think you still have that ouija board stuffed in your pampers God bless

You really do hate Secure People in God, they clearly threaten You!

 

[Heaven_Bound]

I thought You ignored me. So now, you are a Minister that Lies? You really are an Example of what not to be, aren't You?

 

[JStates]

I am not following you. are you having Delusions of grandeur? No, you do not threaten me LOl.

I thought You ignored me. So now, you are a Minister that Lies? You really are an Example of what not to be, aren't You?

Meanwhile as you two bicker and clutter up this thread, this fellow GoodRanger is in a seriously perilous situation. Have either of you read his thread begging for help with demonic possession in the Prayer Requests section?

I don't know what your beef with each other might be, but you could perhaps consider expending your energy towards saying a prayer for this fellow who is clearly on the brink of damnation.

 

[Heaven_Bound]

Meanwhile as you two bicker and clutter up this thread, this fellow GoodRanger is in a seriously perilous situation. Have either of you read his thread begging for help with demonic possession in the Prayer Requests section?

I don't know what your beef with each other might be, but you could perhaps consider expending your energy towards saying a prayer for this fellow who is clearly on the brink of damnation.

I was trying to help by sharing my own experience before I got lectured over it.

 

[CS1]

Meanwhile as you two bicker and clutter up this thread, this fellow GoodRanger is in a seriously perilous situation. Have either of you read his thread begging for help with demonic possession in the Prayer Requests section?

I don't know what your beef with each other might be, but you could perhaps consider expending your energy towards saying a prayer for this fellow who is clearly on the brink of damnation.

if you read my first post to the brother I address the issue so the opening which seems to be from what I gather Admin said was allowed to provide correction in his understanding. One individual provided a past situation where youth were dabbling with
the ouija board. I am willing to pray with any here and for any here in the name of the Lord.

 

[CS1]

GoodRanger, in the Prayer Requests forum you asked for help with permanently expelling demons. You told in detail about the hellish torments you are experiencing at the hands of demonic entities. In that thread, I told you exactly what you need to do.

You are hanging over the pit of Hell, friend. Repent and beg Jesus Christ for salvation.

There is ONE Creator God and ONE Mediator between Him and man: the Lord Jesus Christ.

However, angelic beings in the Bible are sometimes referred to as sons of god and there are also demonic entities including the Father of Lies and Murder himself, Satan the Devil. The Bible also talks about principalities and powers, sometimes with an evil connotation and (I think, not 100% sure) sometimes neutrally. I think these terms refer to the authority structures and dominions (perhaps there are kingdoms or nations of angelic beings, I do not know) of angels and demons, some serving the Creator God and some opposing Him.

The Bible also talks about the seven spirits of God but does not go into great detail. Extrabiblical traditional sources give names to these spirits which coincide with some names in the Bible of angelic messengers and other angelic beings: Michael, Gabriel being the two that I remember off the top of my head. Angels however are messengers FROM God TO man and there's no reason why men should try to contact them.

And in fact several false religions have been founded when men encountered demonic beings. Islam and Mormonism being two religions begun when their founders had visions of shining angelic beings, which were in fact demonic entities or even Satan himself who can appear as an angel of light.

The bottom line is that YES there are spiritual beings out there, but they are NOT on the same level as the Creator God and there is no reason why a Christian should interact with them.

GoodRanger, I don't know if you are on medication (it sounds like this may be the case from your other posts) which makes you vulnerable to demonic entities or if you opened that door via some other means, but you are in a terrible place and only the grace of Jesus Christ can save you now.

You will surely die and be lost unless you repent of your sins and give yourself to the Lord Jesus. Go back to the thread where you asked for help with your demonic torments and do exactly what I told you to do there.

I would like to say we must not emphasize demons over the power of God. And HIS word. many people like the attraction of these demons because they are seducing spirits. They will keep coming back because those have an addiction and strong hold over them.

FYI the biggest lie is the willingness to think one can speak to God to God speaks to us telepathically. This is a lie from the pit of hell.

Those who are Christians that say such things are opening false communication with God.

God speaks to a man three ways Primally.

His creation General revelation
His word Special revelation
His Holy Sprit through a relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.

NOT angels. Angels are to normative to us. Some say the gifts of the Holy Spirit are not for today YET those same types think Angel speak to them. That is angel worship and a form of idolatry.

telepathically speaking is middle Eastern Cult practice NOT od God.

Heb 11:6

But without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is, and that He is a rewarder of those who diligently seek Him.

Jesus said John 14:6

Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me.

WE are to repent, surrender, and receive from the Lord Jesus Christ. HE is there even at your mouth. Call on HIM and HE will answer you.

 

[CS1]

From my studies, it goes back to Nimrod, Noah's grandson, and the tower of Babel. Scripture doesn't speak much about this, but history we get from the extra writings gives us much of this history.

Nimrod made himself a God, ordering the tower to be built. Nimrod named what was called the first day of the week Sunday. He worshipped the sun on this day.

MANY MEN have called themselves god, Pharao, Nebacanezzer, and others. Yet that is how man saw himself but they were not a god. AS the Lord God showed them very well. saying you are god doesn't make it so. The Bible tells us they called themselves god to show how foolish they were not to substantiate the claim those men made.