The Bible........why it is written ?

[dcontroversal]

If you could tolerate a good discussion, instead of my way, or the highway, you might learn some of the truths in the scriptures. It is not my nature to be vindictive, and I know that it is my fleshly nature, and that God does not approve it, but sometimes the desire to retaliate comes forth. I do understand that what I say about the scriptures will not be perceived as truth, unless the Holy Spirit within the receiver reveals it.

You should take your own advice.....I can think of numerous people on CC who have attempted to discuss the word with you, while quoting scripture after scripture in context and you continually reject, ignore and push your own understanding....you are no different and do unto others exactly what you describe in your post bro. After the bolded above it is all speculation, accusation, judgmental and erroneous at best!

 

[oldhermit]

Perhaps I have asked too difficult a question. The Bible is purely a representational document that reveals the mind of God to man. This is its most basic function. This tells us what the Bible is, wht it does, and why it was written. It was written that we may know the the mind of God.

 

[yaright]

Interesting to note that no matter how people on this site perceive your question, it has caused some to consider (on one level or other), how to respond according to the things that seem right. The answers are varied. No matter what country a person lives in, there are laws pertaining to the citizens of that land. Generally, those laws are written for the purpose of learning and understanding guidelines laid out by the governing body of that country. It is each citizen's responsibility to know and follow those guidelines. The bible is written with a similar purpose. For those who do not believe the purpose of the bible being written as evidence of a governing body, the laws Jesus fulfills within the follower is a continuing evidence for those who do not believe. A code? That would be a secular way of describing what is hidden from the unbeliever; but it is hidden in plain sight. This is not a code. It's just a point of fact. Even though your question appears testy, it does cause some to carefully consider the purpose of their personal faith. Yaright

Wincam, pointing out John 20;31 as being the only evidence of things both written and unwritten is like saying I know there is sun light but I only need to give witness of the light of the moon as proof of the light of the sun. The coming of Christ is well documented in the Old Testament. Not only is this written in Old Testament Law, it is also spoken of by Old Testament prophets. Old Testament Laws are written in creation language, which some have said does not exist. But because I do understand creation language; the evidence goes beyond 'simply' believing. What is hidden from you has become evident by the way you worded your question. If it wasn't hidden from you, your words would have sounded like creation language. If you did believe, you would not have tested your brothers in Christ as if they were a science project. The word 'code' speaks of movies and story books that do not use creation language correctly; and because of this I can say you have drawn from conclusions unrelated to the Old Testament and the New Testament. Still, even in your unbelief, have caused me to carefully consider your post.

 

[yaright]

Do Not Feed The TROLL!!!

Speaking creation language the bible teaches, this would sound more like; "Do not cast pearls before swine" Pearls and swine having specific meaning; As to trample the Son of God underfoot as if His blood on the cross is meaningless. The biblical swine is about the nature of a creature that does not carefully consider its food, but rather (in real life) tramples its food underfoot. The pearls of wisdom (Christ), should not be treated lightly. Your statement is well taken. But I am also taught to be prepared, and strengthening comes with the testing of my faith. "As you speak, don't you also learn?" is a cue I use. I do appreciate your input. I see your witness as a contribution and consider you a bother in Christ.

 

[forsha]

I don't have to think about which way it is...the bible tells me clearly....

Jesus said, I am the way, the truth and the life, no man comes unto the Father by me.
Jesus said, I am the door of the sheep.
Jesus said, Except a man be born again he cannot see the kingdom of GOD

I don't have to guess or think about it....I have the written word of God...the revealed word of God!

It is very plain that you don't guess and think, else, you would have given your interpretation of the three passages of scripture that you listed. There is no discussion if all you do is list scripture without guessing and thinking. We all can read the scriptures.

 

[wincam]

Wincam, pointing out John 20;31 as being the only evidence of things both written and unwritten is like saying I know there is sun light but I only need to give witness of the light of the moon as proof of the light of the sun. The coming of Christ is well documented in the Old Testament. Not only is this written in Old Testament Law, it is also spoken of by Old Testament prophets. Old Testament Laws are written in creation language, which some have said does not exist. But because I do understand creation language; the evidence goes beyond 'simply' believing. What is hidden from you has become evident by the way you worded your question. If it wasn't hidden from you, your words would have sounded like creation language. If you did believe, you would not have tested your brothers in Christ as if they were a science project. The word 'code' speaks of movies and story books that do not use creation language correctly; and because of this I can say you have drawn from conclusions unrelated to the Old Testament and the New Testament. Still, even in your unbelief, have caused me to carefully consider your post.

exactly as stated by Jesus very difficult and well nigh impossible for adults to simply simply believe - wincam

 

[yaright]

exactly as stated by Jesus very difficult and well nigh impossible for adults to simply simply believe - wincam

One Old Testament Law speaks of Jesus in this manner; "The sacrifice of a lamb to redeem the foal of a donkey.

Few know how to translate that law, but when Jesus fulfilled that law; as He rode the foal of a donkey into Jerusalem and gave His life (as the law stated); I have no doubt what so ever every christian knows what Jesus did for them. Just because someone does not know all the language of Old Testament Law (I don't think I'll ever be able to get to that point) doesn't mean they don't understand what Jesus has done for them. Jesus also teaches using creation language, that one of the laws is fulfilled the day any christian opens their mouth and gives witness (as a memorial) to the things God had just done in that person's life. I didn't come to know of this by guessing, because the things the Spirit teaches are counter-intuitive. Proof of this is in the need to ask God to teach us; and proof of that is taught to us by Jesus when He had shown us how to pray (a form of obedience) the Lord's prayer. In that prayer are understandings that are a requirement to ask to be shown (food). I use a key to make myself aware of this need; by "What does this mean to me personally, and how does this affect my life?" So, when I talk with christian friends like you, what I have learned is reflected in the way I share with others, and how I respond to others. I'm fairly new to this site, but I realize now that I don't spend enough time learning from christians like you and the things you give witness to concerning the Spirit's work in your life. It's something I need to improve on. You've given me something to consider. But no matter how this unfolds, I know to say and pray to and for my christian friends, "I hope you have made good come of this day, and the reason I say; Have a good day.

 

[yaright]

Perhaps I have asked too difficult a question. The Bible is purely a representational document that reveals the mind of God to man. This is its most basic function. This tells us what the Bible is, wht it does, and why it was written. It was written that we may know the the mind of God.

I hope you don't mind a contribution to your statement; which in actuality has no end. The bible teaches us who we are and why we are that way in God's sight. I mentioned the foal of a donkey in this series of responses. There is a good bit of detail in the meaning of this reference in Law and Words of the Prophets. Not only is this about the lesser of trained servants, the law reveals what part of you will be redeemed; certainly helpful understanding on a personal level when you consider the things you say and the things you do, you do also to the child of God within you. It is this part of you the Law speaks of concerning what part of you is redeemed by the Blood of the Lamb of God. This is fulfilled in one language of the New Testament. Who ever the rider is, is the teacher; this is why the owner was told Jesus had need of them. The owner (You) heard the calling of Jesus and permitted Jesus to sit in the seat of authority. The man did not know what Jesus was doing, and neither did we when we first heard the calling; only that we permitted Jesus to take the place of authority in our lives. The fulfillment of the Law is an amazing personal understanding of what Jesus did for each and every one of us. It is said Jesus (our King and High Priest) rode triumphantly into Jerusalem, and gave His life. Triumphantly? Not like others! No one could do what Jesus did; claimed another one of His own, and gave His life. There is no other King or High Priest who could do what Jesus did for me. There is so much more of this language that teaches who we are and why we are that way in His sight. Anyone who believes creation cannot teach us, has not been listening to the Prophets and Laws. I am sharing a key, much like oldhermit did in the beginning of this post. I hope I did not make this too difficult. You know in part the meaning of the fish (fishers of men). You know in part the meaning of the lambs and the Lamb of God. You know in part the meaning of the dawning of a New Day. All of this is a language of creation that teaches us who we are and why we are that way. Thank you for your patience, thank you for giving me this minute of your life to hear the witness.

 

[yaright]

I hope you don't mind a contribution to your statement; which in actuality has no end. The bible teaches us who we are and why we are that way in God's sight. I mentioned the foal of a donkey in this series of responses. There is a good bit of detail in the meaning of this reference in Law and Words of the Prophets. Not only is this about the lesser of trained servants, the law reveals what part of you will be redeemed; certainly helpful understanding on a personal level when you consider the things you say and the things you do, you do also to the child of God within you. It is this part of you the Law speaks of concerning what part of you is redeemed by the Blood of the Lamb of God. This is fulfilled in one language of the New Testament. Who ever the rider is, is the teacher; this is why the owner was told Jesus had need of them. The owner (You) heard the calling of Jesus and permitted Jesus to sit in the seat of authority. The man did not know what Jesus was doing, and neither did we when we first heard the calling; only that we permitted Jesus to take the place of authority in our lives. The fulfillment of the Law is an amazing personal understanding of what Jesus did for each and every one of us. It is said Jesus (our King and High Priest) rode triumphantly into Jerusalem, and gave His life. Triumphantly? Not like others! No one could do what Jesus did; claimed another one of His own, and gave His life. There is no other King or High Priest who could do what Jesus did for me. There is so much more of this language that teaches who we are and why we are that way in His sight. Anyone who believes creation cannot teach us, has not been listening to the Prophets and Laws. I am sharing a key, much like oldhermit did in the beginning of this post. I hope I did not make this too difficult. You know in part the meaning of the fish (fishers of men). You know in part the meaning of the lambs and the Lamb of God. You know in part the meaning of the dawning of a New Day. All of this is a language of creation that teaches us who we are and why we are that way. Thank you for your patience, thank you for giving me this minute of your life to hear the witness.

There is another language in the New Testament which is the fulfillment of the last words of a prophet to his sons. It is the witness of the coming events called the last days; another way of saying; "It is finished." Jacob spoke the language of creation which is hidden from the world, because the world heard the word of God and did not believe. If you carefully re-examine Genesis 49, you might see the use of creation language as it speaks of the coming events. Even Numbers 24;8 confirms some of this in the face of those who made an attempt to disrupt God's plans. Moving forward; There is a key that opens understanding of something Jesus fulfilled in the New Testament. It goes like this; "Fasten the donkey to the vine, and fasten the foal to the True Vine." I made the last two words stand out for you to see something you do understand of creation language. In the New Testament, it is said Jesus called for them, and He rode them into Jerusalem and gave His life. This is not a miss print or misunderstanding. The reasoning of men have come up with many useless possibilities. Jesus does not have authority over your flesh / without also having authority over the child of God within you. Fasten the donkey to the vine (food of this world) and the foal of the donkey to the True Vine (food from above spoken of in the Lord's Prayer). Yes, in this manner Jesus rode 'them' , but law reveals only the foal will be redeemed. Please consider these things carefully, and you will become over-whelmed with how the bible speaks of you personally as the One who holds the scepter (image for 'power of the Spirit') teaches you who you are and why you are that way in God's sight. Remember always; creation language is not about the creature. It is about the nature of the creature (according to each kind) that can also be found in you.