The catholic communion as a false doctrine

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phil112

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You apparently have never heard of the Oriental Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox, or Assyrian Church?
You means the ones that are continuing a catholic tradition? They are simply using a catholic doctrine, which does no damage to my statement.
 

mailmandan

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Jesus is the Bread of Life. Just as bread nourishes our physical bodies, Jesus gives and sustains eternal life to all believers. “I am the bread of life. He who comes to Me shall never hunger, and he who believes in Me shall never thirst” (John 6:35). As He was accustomed, Jesus used figurative language to emphasize these great spiritual truths. Jesus explains the sense of the entire passage when He says, “It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.” (John 6:63). The literal interpretation is absurd and revolting, leading to cannibalism and the drinking of blood contrary to the commandment of God. No eating of any flesh can give spiritual life. By faith we partake of Christ, and the benefits of His bodily sacrifice on the cross and the merits of His shed blood, receiving and enjoying eternal life. Eating and drinking is not with the mouth and the digestive organs of our bodies, but the reception of God’s grace by believing in Christ, as He makes abundantly clear by repeating the same truths both in metaphoric and plain language. Compare for example the following two verses:

“Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me has everlasting life” (v47).

“He who eats this bread will live forever” (v58).

“He who believes” in Christ is equivalent to “he who eats this bread” because the result is the same, eternal life. The parallel is even more striking between verses 40 and 54:

“Everyone who sees the Son and believes in Him may have everlasting life; and I will raise him up at the last day” (v40).

“Whoever eats My flesh and drinks My blood has eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day” (v54).

John 6 does not afford any support to the Roman Catholic doctrine of transubstantiation. On the contrary, it is an emphatic statement on the primacy of faith as the means by which we receive the grace of God. Jesus is the Bread of Life; we eat of Him and are satisfied when we believe in Him as the all sufficient means of our salvation.

Bread represents the "staff of life." Sustenance. That which essential to sustain life. Just as bread or sustenance is necessary to maintain physical life, Jesus is all the sustenance necessary for spiritual life.

The source of life was blood -- "life is in the blood." As with the bread, just as blood is the empowering or source of life, Jesus is the source of spiritual life.
 

Test_F_i_2_Luv

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You means the ones that are continuing a catholic tradition? They are simply using a catholic doctrine, which does no damage to my statement.
Your statement indicated that "The catholic doctrine of literally eating Christ's flesh is beyond ridiculous. It borders on insanity, as a doctrine. Not even the basest heathen with a false idol would eat his god, only the catholics do, so let's examine this scripturally."

These other churches, in "continuing a catholic tradition", are agreeing with and embracing the same theology. Your statement, then, was is incorrect and misleading, at the very least.

To be accurate, you have to point fingers at and knock Roman Catholics, Oriental Orthodox, Eastern Orthodox, and those in the Assyrian Church.
 
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1).yahweh did not do this.(rcc is antichrist entirely)
2).WHEN YOU KNOW THEY ARE DEMONIC, then you know the TRUTH.
3).there is none... only deception.
4).another lie and no support in SCRIPTURE. only the antichrist says so.
5).ekklesia were and are put to death every day for the truth, BY THE RCC B>STRD CATH authorities around the world.
but the true believers were not put to death for accepting and believing the LIE of the RCC which it look like you accept.
6).it is all deception, and always has been - you have allowed the enemy of Christ to deceive you and to have power over you life and mind and heart.

not one of your reasons, not any of these and none anywhere that defend the antichrist, can save you on judgment day.

Why I believe in the possibility and I said possibility of the real presence

1). God can do anything he wants
2) it is pretty hard to deny Eucharistic miracles every where and in every time there are so many from sienna in the 1700's to Seattle, and Beanos airies recently
3). There are so much scripture to back it up
4) the first christains believed it
5) the first Christians were put to death for believing it
6) by denying it one is denying the unseen and possibility of super natural things which deny's the apostles creed and nicene creed


Those would. Be my top reasons
 
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1).yahweh did not do this.(rcc is antichrist entirely)
2).WHEN YOU KNOW THEY ARE DEMONIC, then you know the TRUTH.
3).there is none... only deception.
4).another lie and no support in SCRIPTURE. only the antichrist says so.
5).ekklesia were and are put to death every day for the truth, BY THE RCC B>STRD CATH authorities around the world.
but the true believers were not put to death for accepting and believing the LIE of the RCC which it look like you accept.
6).it is all deception, and always has been - you have allowed the enemy of Christ to deceive you and to have power over you life and mind and heart.

not one of your reasons, not any of these and none anywhere that defend the antichrist, can save you on judgment day.

the RCC along with all other mainline sects, divisions, groups, whatever you want to call them.. Christ is NOT DIVIDED.. these who continue to operate in rebellion and Apostasy... and this includes some very mainline big name denominations.. these after HE THAT LETS.. or restrains IS Removed.. will 'mold and form' one global pseudo christlike utopian' body. otherwise known as the Harlot of Revelation 17... yes RCC is antichrist.. the coming man of sin. the son of perdition.. another JUDAS persay. will arise out of this Apostasy.. and he will unite all these counterfiets into one big 'jello mold'.. in the name of 'christ'. PLUS bring great supernatural 'false peace' to Fleshly Israel at that time.. He has not been revealed to the World as his time is not yet.. but his foreshadowing is here.. God will Continue to 'call out of the coming Harlot'. those who are Genuinely His.. He will do that.. Do you realize how close we Truly are? the pharmaceutical industry is in place.. for the use of 'sorcery' to deceive the masses and mold many into that 'image of a false christ like man'. behavior control medication.. that use is very prevalent today. and it continues to grow each year.. replacing Truth and the blood of Christ with a 'pill'.. to control behavior to make to conform.. the mark of man .. the image of man.. he/she that has wisdom let him/her be wise.. Here what the Spirit Saith.... all these things are 'IN PLACE ' today. which were not in place back in the NT days.. indeed... all that needs to Happen is to Have the Master Reaper, the man who holds the Keys to that Big Eternal Combine.. to turn that Combine On.. Christ in the Only One who has the Keys to turn it on.. and the Father knows exactly the Day Hour Minute Second as to when Christ will turn it on.. it is going to come like a 'thief in the night'.. He/she that has ears let him/her hear what the Spirit Saith...
 
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yes.... a little. in part i know, and almost no one does, so it is by sheer grace i or anyone knows.

i was in the grip/ in the deception of sorcery / but my heart was (again by sheer grace, and also with my complete and full free choice to serve yahweh in yahshua by faith in truth, with no shadow and with no deception) like king david's and like paul the apostle and like peter >> turned to yahweh to serve him fully forever, withholding nothing, holding back nothing, all is his, heart and soul and mind and body and desires and dreams and future and past and present ----

so forth, in his mercy, i was granted forgiveness for my part in pharmacy(sorcery)(which absolutely controls the usa government and most others, and the ama, utterly) and which absolutely and fully has deceived the whole world (and almost all the churches, completely);
 

Jackson123

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Even though Paul said that he who eats and drinks without "discerning the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ" eats and drinks damnation on himself. Also Paul says to take and eat incorrectly is to sin against, "the body and blood of our Lord Jesus Christ."

Then, we have St. Iranaeus, St. Polycarp, St. Justin Martyr from the first and second centuries speaking of the literal presence of Christ in the Eucharist. Each of them proclaim this. Then we have the Romans and Greeks proclaiming Christians to be "cannibals" because of their religious practices (by the way, read Nero's condemnation of Christians, he mentions this specifically).
So you believe the spirit of God presence in the bread and wine, or bread become the flesh of Jesus and wine become the blood of Jesus?
 
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what someone in the heresy believes is by definition a lie. false. not even to be considered.
 
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This is main reason why I stop taking communion because ABBA revealed the TRUTH through Holy Spirit. Why condemn the RCC when main stream Christianity takes communion every month because many Protestants Churches took the doctrine of RCC with them. Folks might be amazed what their churches have in common with the RCC. I know some churches take the communion weekly,monthly, quarterly, or annually. Martin Luther translated the Bible into vernacular and most Protestants do not know their own history. How many Christians know about the Ninety-five Theses.


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Maybe tonight Christians can do some homework learning their own history before attacking someone else belief system. This foolishness attacking others is becoming very old, disrespectful, rude, and unbecoming as a follower of JESUS CHRIST. Many Christians attack other Christians in the same faith and cannot even agree on grace, mercy, salvation and etc. That is madness, insanity, strife, division, and unhappy believers.
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Yeah - sorry just not going to call mainline Catholicism Christianity, Re-sacrificing Christ - Muslims get salvation, forbidding marriage, Lording faith over people - or that matter any denomination that would go beyond Ephesians 4:1-6 protestants like Oneness Pentecostals etc