The Commandments of Jesus Christ

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Grandpa

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StephenLevi said:
If you believe you are going to get into the Kingdom of God
without obeying the commandments of Jesus Christ....

go for it.
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Biblically, I don't remember anyone telling anyone else to do something that they know is wrong and will end badly. Except one guy.

Matthew 4:7-10
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.

 
StephenLevi

StephenLevi

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Elin said:
This is you cutting and running, after being challenged with the NT word of God.

And why would the devil be in the business of proving your error?
He would be in agreement with your falsehood.

It would not be the devil proving your error, it would be the people of God, as in the following:

But that is not in agreement with the NT.

Salvation is the forgiveness of sin (Lk 1:77)
through faith in Jesus Christ (Eph 2:8-9),
which gives one a guiltless right standing (position of righteousness, justification) before God (Ro 3:24),
which saves one from God's wrath (Ro 5:9) on one's guilt at the Final Judgment.

The true faith which saves then obeys Christ's commands (Mt 22:37-39; 1 Co 9:21; Gal 6:2),
which fulfill, encompass, accomplish all the Mosaic law (Mt 22:40; Ro 13:8, 9, 10);
however, Christ does not attach a curse for imperfect obedience to his law,
as was attached to the Mosaic law (Dt 27:26; Gal 3:10),
and from which curse we are freed under Christ's law (Gal 3:13).

Then the obedience in the power of the Holy Spirit which results from true faith in Christ Jesus
is the Christian process of sanctification (holiness) which transforms us into the image of Christ.

Saving faith = belief + obedience.

But it is the faith/belief alone that saves (Eph 2:8-9).
The obedience which results from true faith does not in itself save,
for salvation is a free gift of pure grace (Eph 2:8),
not something earned by performance (Ro 4:4-5, 1-3; Eph 2:9).

However, since true saving faith obeys, then where there is no obedience,
we know there is no true saving faith and, therefore, one has not actually been saved.

But it is the faith alone which saves (Eph 2:8), performance does not save (Eph 2:9).
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This is not going to deliver you from proving you will walk your talk.

If you do not accept the challenge and prove that you can walk your talk,
it will be counted as you cutting and running.
 
StephenLevi

StephenLevi

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p_rehbein said:
you go first.........no, seriously, I insist.........post CONCLUSIVE PROOF GOD TOLD YOU THAT.........
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You believe that Jesus is God. Then why do you deny the commandments of Jesus, your God?
 
StephenLevi

StephenLevi

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May 11, 2014
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#144
Grandpa said:
Biblically, I don't remember anyone telling anyone else to do something that they know is wrong and will end badly. Except one guy.

Matthew 4:7-10
[SUP]7 [/SUP]Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them;
[SUP]9 [/SUP]And saith unto him, All these things will I give thee, if thou wilt fall down and worship me.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Then saith Jesus unto him, Get thee hence, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve.
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You believe that Jesus is God. Then why do you deny the commandments of Jesus, your God?
 
StephenLevi

StephenLevi

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Elin said:
This is you cutting and running, after being challenged with the NT word of God.

And why would the devil be in the business of proving your error?
He would be in agreement with your falsehood.

It would not be the devil proving your error, it would be the people of God, as in the following:

But that is not in agreement with the NT.

Salvation is the forgiveness of sin (Lk 1:77)
through faith in Jesus Christ (Eph 2:8-9),
which gives one a guiltless right standing (position of righteousness, justification) before God (Ro 3:24),
which saves one from God's wrath (Ro 5:9) on one's guilt at the Final Judgment.

The true faith which saves then obeys Christ's commands (Mt 22:37-39; 1 Co 9:21; Gal 6:2),
which fulfill, encompass, accomplish all the Mosaic law (Mt 22:40; Ro 13:8, 9, 10);
however, Christ does not attach a curse for imperfect obedience to his law,
as was attached to the Mosaic law (Dt 27:26; Gal 3:10),
and from which curse we are freed under Christ's law (Gal 3:13).

Then the obedience in the power of the Holy Spirit which results from true faith in Christ Jesus
is the Christian process of sanctification (holiness) which transforms us into the image of Christ.

Saving faith = belief + obedience.

But it is the faith/belief alone that saves (Eph 2:8-9).
The obedience which results from true faith does not in itself save,
for salvation is a free gift of pure grace (Eph 2:8),
not something earned by performance (Ro 4:4-5, 1-3; Eph 2:9).

However, since true saving faith obeys, then where there is no obedience,
we know there is no true saving faith and, therefore, one has not actually been saved.

But it is the faith alone which saves (Eph 2:8), performance does not save (Eph 2:9).
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You believe that Jesus is God. Then why do you deny the commandments of Jesus, your God?
 
StephenLevi

StephenLevi

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May 11, 2014
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#147
Like I said, none of you walk your talk.
And it don't matter who or what I am,
none of you walk your talk.
 
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psalm6819

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#149
The Holy Spirit speaks to those who listen and HE will show all truth. We are to speak to one another with love not condemnation.
 
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Elin

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#150
StephenLevi said:
Elin said:
This is you cutting and running, after being challenged with the NT word of God.

It would not be the devil proving your error, it would be the people of God, as in the following:

StephenLevi said:
The Commandments of Jesus Christ is God's free gift of salvation. . .

Obedience is not a prerequisite to salvation.

IT IS SALVATION.
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that is not in agreement with the NT.

Salvation is the forgiveness of sin (Lk 1:77)
through faith in Jesus Christ (Eph 2:8-9),
which gives one a guiltless right standing (position of righteousness, justification) before God (Ro 3:24),
which saves one from God's wrath (Ro 5:9) on one's guilt at the Final Judgment.

The true faith which saves then obeys Christ's commands (Mt 22:37-39; 1 Co 9:21; Gal 6:2),
which fulfill, encompass, accomplish all the Mosaic law (Mt 22:40; Ro 13:8, 9, 10);
however, Christ does not attach a curse for imperfect obedience to his law,
as was attached to the Mosaic law (Dt 27:26; Gal 3:10),
and from which curse we are freed under Christ's law (Gal 3:13).

Then the obedience in the power of the Holy Spirit which results from true faith in Christ Jesus
is the Christian process of sanctification (holiness) which transforms us into the image of Christ.

Saving faith = belief + obedience.

But it is the faith/belief alone that saves (Eph 2:8-9).
The obedience which results from true faith does not in itself save,
for salvation is a free gift of pure grace (Eph 2:8),
not something earned by performance (Ro 4:4-5, 1-3; Eph 2:9).

However, since true saving faith obeys, then where there is no obedience,
we know there is no true saving faith and, therefore, one has not actually been saved.

But it is the faith alone which saves (Eph 2:8), performance does not save (Eph 2:9).
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This is not going to deliver you from proving you will walk your talk.

If you do not accept the challenge and prove that you can walk your talk,
it will be counted as you cutting and running.
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You have me confused with someone else.
I can't cut and run from that to which I have not committed.

I have not committed to your challenge.

Do I have you confused with someone else?

Have you committed to God's word in the NT?
 
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StephenLevi

StephenLevi

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And further more if what I have said here, provokes someone who reads this,
to repent from one sin and to obey even one commandment of Jesus Christ.
That is my reward.

And if someone takes me up on my challenge
That is what I want.


And if not, I will still be rewarded.

I can't lose.

God has made me a winner, no matter what, whatsoever.
 
StephenLevi

StephenLevi

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May 11, 2014
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Elin said:
You have me confused with someone else.
I can't cut and run from that to which I have not committed.

I have not committed to your challenge.

Do I have you confused wiht someone else?

Have you committed to God's word in the NT?
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Don't cry to me.
In fact I like it when it is this easy for me.
 
StephenLevi

StephenLevi

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May 11, 2014
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#154
God told me to break it down for you so as you would have no excuse.

You either accept the challenge or you don't.

one or the other.

Which ever way you go will be judged accordingly to the truth.
He told me to add this...

And you will be rewarded accordingly.

one way or the other.
 
StephenLevi

StephenLevi

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May 11, 2014
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#156
If you are the one to break any one of His commandments first, you lose.
 
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Elin

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#157
StephenLevi said:
Elin said:
StephenLevi said:
Elin said:
This is you cutting and running, after being challenged with the NT word of God.

It would not be the devil proving your error, it would be the people of God, as in the following:
StephenLevi said:
The Commandments of Jesus Christ is God's free gift of salvation. . .

Obedience is not a prerequisite to salvation.

IT IS SALVATION.
Click to expand...
That is not in agreement with the NT.

Salvation is the forgiveness of sin (Lk 1:77)
through faith in Jesus Christ (Eph 2:8-9),
which gives one a guiltless right standing (position of righteousness, justification) before God (Ro 3:24),
which saves one from God's wrath (Ro 5:9) on one's guilt at the Final Judgment.

The true faith which saves then obeys Christ's commands (Mt 22:37-39; 1 Co 9:21; Gal 6:2),
which fulfill, encompass, accomplish all the Mosaic law (Mt 22:40; Ro 13:8, 9, 10);
however, Christ does not attach a curse for imperfect obedience to his law,
as was attached to the Mosaic law (Dt 27:26; Gal 3:10),
and from which curse we are freed under Christ's law (Gal 3:13).

Then the obedience in the power of the Holy Spirit which results from true faith in Christ Jesus
is the Christian process of sanctification (holiness) which transforms us into the image of Christ.

Saving faith = belief + obedience.

But it is the faith/belief alone that saves (Eph 2:8-9).
The obedience which results from true faith does not in itself save,
for salvation is a free gift of pure grace (Eph 2:8),
not something earned by performance (Ro 4:4-5, 1-3; Eph 2:9).

However, since true saving faith obeys, then where there is no obedience,
we know there is no true saving faith and, therefore, one has not actually been saved.

But it is the faith alone which saves (Eph 2:8), performance does not save (Eph 2:9).
Click to expand...
This is not going to deliver you from proving you will walk your talk.

If you do not accept the challenge and prove that you can walk your talk,
it will be counted as you cutting and running.
Click to expand...
You have me confused with someone else.
I can't cut and run from that to which I have not committed.

I have not committed to your challenge.

Do I have you confused with someone else?

Have you committed to God's word in the NT?
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Don't cry to me.
In fact I like it when it is this easy for me.
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Don't cry to me.

I like it when the answer is non-responsive.

For then it translates, "No, I am not committed to God's word in the NT."

And that is easy for me.
 
StephenLevi

StephenLevi

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psalm6819 said:
The Holy Spirit speaks to those who listen and HE will show all truth. We are to speak to one another with love not condemnation.
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​It is the Holy Ghost that instructed me to post every thing I have posted.
You do not know the Holy Ghost.
Or the word of God or God.
 
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Kerim

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#159
StephenLevi said:
​It is the Holy Ghost that instructed me to post every thing I have posted.
You do not know the Holy Ghost.
Or the word of God or God.
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I guess you should also know very well the reason for which the Holy Ghost has let you talk with us the way you do.

I am all ears.

For instance, it happens that I have also accepted the Holy Ghost in my soul since too many decades.
 
StephenLevi

StephenLevi

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Kerim said:
I guess you should also know very well the reason for which the Holy Ghost has let you talk with us the way you do.

I am all ears.

For instance, it happens that I have also accepted the Holy Ghost in my soul since too many decades.
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​Your actions say other wise.
 
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