The Current Year Since Creation, and When the Sabbath and Jubilee Years Are

[Noose]

You don't end up in 70 AD, you end up around in the last week of Daniel from 26 AD to 33 AD, and then after was the destruction of Jerusalem around 70 AD.

Well, that's crazy.

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined on your people and on your holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy....
26And after three score and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and to the end of the war desolations are determined. 27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the middle of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured on the desolate.

You say Christ confirms the covenant at the middle of the 70th week so actually the 70 weeks ended on around 37AD according to you; then why are we talking about 70AD if it isn't part of the prophesy by Daniel?
Why are you talking about Romans and the Roman catholic when they did not do anything in 37AD when our 70 weeks were accomplished?

 

[alchristfollower]

Well, that's crazy.

Dan 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined on your people and on your holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy....
26And after three score and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and to the end of the war desolations are determined. 27And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week: and in the middle of the week he shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of abominations he shall make it desolate, even until the consummation, and that determined shall be poured on the desolate.

You say Christ confirms the covenant at the middle of the 70th week so actually the 70 weeks ended on around 37AD according to you; then why are we talking about 70AD if it isn't part of the prophesy by Daniel?
Why are you talking about Romans and the Roman catholic when they did not do anything in 37AD when our 70 weeks were accomplished?

It is part of the prophecy of Daniel, read,

And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.” (Daniel 9:27 [ESV])

Sentence one is the conclusion of the 70 weeks of Daniel. Sentence two is, which happens after, is the destruction of Jerusalem at the hand of the desolator, or the antichrist, or the little horn, or the Roman authority, etc.

 

[Noose]

To answer your question about the current year, we are precisely:
6618 Years /7 months/ 7 Days since creation- using the 365.25 day/year calendar.
It is absurd but it is what it is.

 

[Noose]

It is part of the prophecy of Daniel, read,

And he shall make a strong covenant with many for one week, and for half of the week he shall put an end to sacrifice and offering. And on the wing of abominations shall come one who makes desolate, until the decreed end is poured out on the desolator.” (Daniel 9:27 [ESV])

Sentence one is the conclusion of the 70 weeks of Daniel. Sentence two is, which happens after, is the destruction of Jerusalem at the hand of the desolator, or the antichrist, or the little horn, or the Roman authority, etc.

And that's what you can't explain.

If the middle of the 70th week is 33AD, the end of the 70 weeks is 37AD, anything beyond the 70th week is not part of this prophesy otherwise should have said "..more than 70 weeks are determined for your people..".

We know from other numerous bible verses the antichrist will be given authority for 3.5 years. I want to know how you do your calculations from 33AD to 70Ad because we both know that the verse is not talking about beyond 70Weeks.

 

[alchristfollower]

To answer your question about the current year, we are precisely:
6618 Years /7 months/ 7 Days since creation- using the 365.25 day/year calendar.
It is absurd but it is what it is.

And you arrived at this number how? I literally counted each ancestor and timeline from Adam to Christ, which I built in an elaborate excel spreadsheet, documenting each scriptural reference to account for each segment of time recorded in scripture from Adam to Christ, and Christ till now, and publishing it in a thorough study. If you want to refute my calculation of the current year, then I dare you to build your own model, based on scripture of course, then perhaps we can have an intelligent discussion of timelines. But gathering from our conversation this morning, you're in way over year head knowing little, and what makes it worse is you're stubborn. I have no problem coaching someone who doesn't know, but coaching someone who refuses to know thinking they know better, well.... this scripture applies to them,

Do you see a person wise in their own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for them. (Proverbs 26:12 [NIV])

 

[alchristfollower]

And that's what you can't explain.

If the middle of the 70th week is 33AD, the end of the 70 weeks is 37AD, anything beyond the 70th week is not part of this prophesy otherwise should have said "..more than 70 weeks are determined for your people..".

We know from other numerous bible verses the antichrist will be given authority for 3.5 years. I want to know how you do your calculations from 33AD to 70Ad because we both know that the verse is not talking about beyond 70Weeks.

That's because you are under a false presumption that all time ends in the 70th week, which is not so, there are around 2,000 years worth of prophecies that come after the 70th week, all leading up to the coming of Christ, which the book of Daniel describes in other timelines. I have tried over and over to explain this to you, but you refuse to come to understanding, in favor of your own erroneous understanding which I have over and over again debunked. In summary, the timelines are explained in this way,

The 490 years of Daniel begin with the decree issued by King around Artaxerxes 458 BC, where 483 years later, or 69 weeks later, we reach the year 26 AD where Christ was anointed, and then in the middle of the following week, which is the 70th week, or 3 1/2 years later, he was cut off, and also confirmed his covenant with many in that final 70th week. Then, after the fulfillment of the consecutive 70 weeks prophecy, was the destruction of Jerusalem around 70 AD by the Romans. Then, through the Roman authority, came the line of popes, that persecuted the people of God and committed massacres and inquisitions under an authority of around 1,260 years from around 538 AD when the pope was officially granted power by the Justinian Code, to around 1798 AD when the pope was taken into captivity by the French, and now, in correlation with the 6,000th year since the beginning, or the 2,000th year since the anointing of Christ, or at the culmination of the 1290+1335 years of Daniel from around 600 BC when sacrifices at the temple first stopped, we are now reaching around 2026 AD which is the year Christ would indeed return, which is also a year of Jubilee.

 

[Noose]

And you arrived at this number how? I literally counted each ancestor and timeline from Adam to Christ, which I built in an elaborate excel spreadsheet, documenting each scriptural reference to account for each segment of time recorded in scripture from Adam to Christ, and Christ till now, and publishing it in a thorough study. If you want to refute my calculation of the current year, then I dare you to build your own model, based on scripture of course, then perhaps we can have an intelligent discussion of timelines. But gathering from our conversation this morning, you're in way over year head knowing little, and what makes it worse is you're stubborn. I have no problem coaching someone who doesn't know, but coaching someone who refuses to know thinking they know better, well.... this scripture applies to them,

Do you see a person wise in their own eyes? There is more hope for a fool than for them. (Proverbs 26:12 [NIV])

I don't need to create a model or anything and no one needs to develop an elaborate anything, you just need to understand the book of Daniel.
When Jesus was asked about the end times, He did not refer anyone to an elaborate spreadsheet counting down ancestors from Adam, He referred them back to Daniel. Daniel has two timeline; the 70 weeks and the 2300 evenings and mornings (years)- these two timelines can be used as stencils for our current calendar and you can pinpoint the dates were are in.

That's what i did but you need to really understand what Daniel says otherwise you are shooting in the dark.

 

[alchristfollower]

I don't need to create a model or anything and no one needs to develop an elaborate anything, you just need to understand the book of Daniel.
When Jesus was asked about the end times, He did not refer anyone to an elaborate spreadsheet counting down ancestors from Adam, He referred them back to Daniel. Daniel has two timeline; the 70 weeks and the 2300 evenings and mornings (years)- these two timelines can be used as stencils for our current calendar and you can pinpoint the dates were are in.

That's what i did but you need to really understand what Daniel says otherwise you are shooting in the dark.

Ummmmmmmmm, two gospels begin with the genealogies and timelines of Christ. So without a doubt, genealogies and timelines are of great importance. And Christ didn't give us specific timelines, the Torah (through the Jubilee cycles, Jewish calendar, and the festivals) and the prophets did (such as Daniel). And this is what I am trying to explain to you. Anyways, I've spent enough time with you, learn, or do not learn. Perhaps someone else will benefit from reading this back and forth conversation. I will leave you with these studies to read,

http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2018/07/3...n-and-when-the-sabbath-and-jubilee-years-are/
http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2017/10/1...-cycles-and-the-1290-and-1335-days-of-daniel/
http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2016/10/2...easts-of-revelation-and-the-whore-of-babylon/
http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2017/10/1...of-europe-and-the-destruction-of-the-vatican/
http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2017/03/1...-the-bowls-of-wrath-and-inheriting-the-earth/

 

[Noose]

That's because you are under a false presumption that all time ends in the 70th week, which is not so, there are around 2,000 years worth of prophecies that come after the 70th week, all leading up to the coming of Christ, which the book of Daniel describes in other timelines. I have tried over and over to explain this to you, but you refuse to come to understanding, in favor of your own erroneous understanding which I have over and over again debunked. In summary, the timelines are explained in this way,

The 490 years of Daniel begin with the decree issued by King around Artaxerxes 458 BC, where 483 years later, or 69 weeks later, we reach the year 26 AD where Christ was anointed, and then in the middle of the following week, which is the 70th week, or 3 1/2 years later, he was cut off, and also confirmed his covenant with many in that final 70th week. Then, after the fulfillment of the consecutive 70 weeks prophecy, was the destruction of Jerusalem around 70 AD by the Romans. Then, through the Roman authority, came the line of popes, that persecuted the people of God and committed massacres and inquisitions under an authority of around 1,260 years from around 538 AD when the pope was officially granted power by the Justinian Code, to around 1798 AD when the pope was taken into captivity by the French, and now, in correlation with the 6,000th year since the beginning, or the 2,000th year since the anointing of Christ, or at the culmination of the 1290+1335 years of Daniel from around 600 BC when sacrifices at the temple first stopped, we are now reaching around 2026 AD which is the year Christ would indeed return, which is also a year of Jubilee.

Great twisting of scriptures to fit a view, it doesn't work on me.

The Messiah did not come in the year 26AD, He comes when He is born. The angel precisely said "...today in the city of David, Christ has been born...." . The idea that Christ came in 26AD is a creation of your own.

Daniel's 70 week prophesy was about 70 weeks, if the 70 weeks were to end on 33AD, then trying to add events that happened on 70AD is twisting to make fit a false view definitely. You debunk yourself. The angel precisely says "..70 weeks are determined..." not 70 plus more weeks.

70 weeks perfectly fits till the end of the world without cutting and floating any week, if you don't understand how doesn't mean it is wrong. Ask and it shall be shown you.

Messiah being cut off has nothing to do with Jesus's death, it is bigger than that.

And the rest of your story doesn't make any sense because the foundation is just not right.

 

[alchristfollower]

Great twisting of scriptures to fit a view, it doesn't work on me.

The Messiah did not come in the year 26AD, He comes when He is born. The angel precisely said "...today in the city of David, Christ has been born...." . The idea that Christ came in 26AD is a creation of your own.

Daniel's 70 week prophesy was about 70 weeks, if the 70 weeks were to end on 33AD, then trying to add events that happened on 70AD is twisting to make fit a false view definitely. You debunk yourself. The angel precisely says "..70 weeks are determined..." not 70 plus more weeks.

70 weeks perfectly fits till the end of the world without cutting and floating any week, if you don't understand how doesn't mean it is wrong. Ask and it shall be shown you.

Messiah being cut off has nothing to do with Jesus's death, it is bigger than that.

And the rest of your story doesn't make any sense because the foundation is just not right.

Let me make one last thing very clear, I never said Christ was born in 26 AD, I said Christ was anointed in 26 AD, I quote myself,

"...we reach the year 26 AD where Christ was anointed..."

You're not even reading my responses. You're skimming, which is why you nonsensically assumed I said Christ was born in 26 AD yet died 3 1/2 years later around 30 AD. Makes no sense, which is probably why you're not realizing your own error in relation to the truth of what I am telling you that fits with all the timelines of Daniel and the Book of Revelation and the Torah. You just don't want to.

 

[Noose]

Ummmmmmmmm, two gospels begin with the genealogies and timelines of Christ. So without a doubt, genealogies and timelines are of great importance. And Christ didn't give us specific timelines, the Torah (through the Jubilee cycles, Jewish calendar, and the festivals) and the prophets did (such as Daniel). And this is what I am trying to explain to you. Anyways, I've spent enough time with you, learn, or do not learn. Perhaps someone else will benefit from reading this back and forth conversation. I will leave you with these studies to read,

http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2018/07/3...n-and-when-the-sabbath-and-jubilee-years-are/
http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2017/10/1...-cycles-and-the-1290-and-1335-days-of-daniel/
http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2016/10/2...easts-of-revelation-and-the-whore-of-babylon/
http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2017/10/1...of-europe-and-the-destruction-of-the-vatican/
http://www.wisdomofgod.co/2017/03/1...-the-bowls-of-wrath-and-inheriting-the-earth/

The gospel's genealogy was for the purpose of identifying the messiah and not for end times. When Jesus was asked about the end times, Daniel was His response not genealogy.
In my life, i have read many articles and held to many positions and i don't think these articles will offer anything new than the normal eschatological views that we are already used to.

 

[Noose]

Let me make one last thing very clear, I never said Christ was born in 26 AD, I said Christ was anointed in 26 AD, I quote myself,

"...we reach the year 26 AD where Christ was anointed..."

You're not even reading my responses. You're skimming, which is probably why you're not realizing your own error. You just don't want to.

And i'm telling you how wrong you are. The prophesy talks about the coming of the Messiah and Jesus at birth was being called the Messiah by the angel, how then can you say the Messiah came in the year 26AD? came where?

 

[alchristfollower]

The gospel's genealogy was for the purpose of identifying the messiah and not for end times. When Jesus was asked about the end times, Daniel was His response not genealogy.
In my life, i have read many articles and held to many positions and i don't think these articles will offer anything new than the normal eschatological views that we are already used to.

Then don't read, since you know oh sooooooooooooo much better, clearly

 

[alchristfollower]

And i'm telling you how wrong you are. The prophesy talks about the coming of the Messiah and Jesus at birth was being called the Messiah by the angel, how then can you say the Messiah came in the year 26AD? came where?

The prophecy talks about the anointing of Christ, which happened around 26 AD, for his anointing was receiving the spirit of God,

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy set-apart city to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in aeonial righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most set-apart one. Know therefore and understand, that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem to the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks, and sixty and two weeks: the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times. (Daniel 9:24-25 [MODIFIED-WBT])

 

[SIMON55]

The 70 weeks prophecy only reaches to around the year 33 AD, where the entire 70 weeks prophecy ended with Christ confirming his covenant with many in that last week (there is no floating 70th week, that's arbitrary and absurd). So no, you cannot know the timeline of this heaven and earth with just the 70 weeks prophecy, you can only know the 490 years that this prophecy corresponds to.

Then use the Daniel 7:25 1260 years.....538 AD to 1798
The Roman Emperor Justinian Decree until the arrest and removal of the antichrist....LOL

 

[SIMON55]

But a Roman authority did set foot in the temple, through whom popes came. They are all related, through Rome, the fourth kingdom of Daniel that would still exist even until the coming of Christ, because it now corresponds to the pope. The time of the Gentiles has and is already happening, for the 42 months in Revelation is yet another timeline speaking of those who trampled Jerusalem, which was those who built the Dome of the Rock over the temple site, and then lost control over the city around 1,260 years later when the Jews retook control of the city, thus fulfilling the 42 month timeline, and that Dome of the Rock will be in the outer court next to the third temple that will be built in accordance to the vision of this prophecy.

Next, when Christ shed his blood, he brought an end to sin, in fulfillment of the prophecy that spoke of him, the 70 weeks prophecy,

Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy set-apart city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in aeonial righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most set-apart. (Daniel 9:24 [MODIFIED-KJV])

Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But he has appeared once for all at the culmination of the aeons* to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself. (Hebrews 9:26 [MODIFIED-NIV])*

Interlinear Links: *αἰώνων (aeons), Hebrews 9:26

Which the blood of animals was never able to accomplish,

This was a symbol for the time then present, when gifts and sacrifices were offered that could not perfect the conscience of the worshiper. (Hebrews 9:9 [NETBIBLE])

For it is impossible for the blood of bulls and of he-goats to remove sins. (Hebrews 10:4 [ABP])

Which is why whoever is set apart by the spirit of God cannot sin, because through the blood of Christ and through belief in Christ, one is then "freed from sin" and "circumcised in the heart", which means putting off the sinful nature, which happens when a believer truly receives the spirit of God, which not many do,

In Him you were also circumcised in the putting off of your sinful nature… (Colossians 2:11 [BSB])

No, a person is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is circumcision of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a person’s praise is not from other people, but from God. (Romans 2:29 [NIV])

And I will put my Spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes and be careful to obey my rules. (Ezekiel 36:27 [ESV])

in order that the righteous requirement of the law might be fully met in us, who do not live according to the flesh but according to the Spirit. (Romans 8:4 [NIV])

according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, becoming set apart of the Spirit, for obedience to Yeshua Christ and for sprinkling with his blood: May grace and peace be multiplied to you. (1 Peter 1:2 [MODIFIED-ESV])

But we ought always to give thanks to God for you, brothers beloved by the Master, because God chose you as the firstfruits to be saved, through becoming set apart by the Spirit and belief in the truth. (2 Thessalonians 2:13 [MODIFIED-ESV])

We know that every one being engendered of God does not sin; but the one engendered of God keeps himself, and the wicked one does not touch him. (I John 5:18 [ABP])

Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God. (1 John 3:9 [KJV])

But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it— (Romans 3:21 [ESV])

You have been set free from sin and have become slaves to righteousness. (Romans 6:18 [NIV])

But now, having been set free from sin, and having become servants of Elohim, you have your fruit resulting in set-apartness, and the end, aeonial* life. (Romans 6:22 [MODIFIED-TS2009])*

Interlinear Links: *αἰώνιον (aeonial), Romans 6:22

For we know that our old self was crucified with him so that the body ruled by sin might be done away with, that we should no longer be slaves to sin– because anyone who has died has been set free from sin. (Romans 6:6-7 [NIV])

What's all the Dome of the Rock stuff....?....The Daniel 7:25 Antichrist Blasphemer standing in the Holy Place thinking to change the Law and Times....is....The Roman Emperor Ustinian decree 538 AD-1798 The Beast suffers deadly wound to its head 1798 arrest and removal when Napoleon Bonapart took Rome....1260 yr exactly power in power out....2nd Beast of Rev. Comes out of the earth.....USA.....1948 Israel back as nation generation all passes away its all over.

 

[SIMON55]

That's because you are under a false presumption that all time ends in the 70th week, which is not so, there are around 2,000 years worth of prophecies that come after the 70th week, all leading up to the coming of Christ, which the book of Daniel describes in other timelines. I have tried over and over to explain this to you, but you refuse to come to understanding, in favor of your own erroneous understanding which I have over and over again debunked. In summary, the timelines are explained in this way,

The 490 years of Daniel begin with the decree issued by King around Artaxerxes 458 BC, where 483 years later, or 69 weeks later, we reach the year 26 AD where Christ was anointed, and then in the middle of the following week, which is the 70th week, or 3 1/2 years later, he was cut off, and also confirmed his covenant with many in that final 70th week. Then, after the fulfillment of the consecutive 70 weeks prophecy, was the destruction of Jerusalem around 70 AD by the Romans. Then, through the Roman authority, came the line of popes, that persecuted the people of God and committed massacres and inquisitions under an authority of around 1,260 years from around 538 AD when the pope was officially granted power by the Justinian Code, to around 1798 AD when the pope was taken into captivity by the French, and now, in correlation with the 6,000th year since the beginning, or the 2,000th year since the anointing of Christ, or at the culmination of the 1290+1335 years of Daniel from around 600 BC when sacrifices at the temple first stopped, we are now reaching around 2026 AD which is the year Christ would indeed return, which is also a year of Jubilee.

Which is also 78 yrs from 1948 when Israel became a state again which 78yrs is about the age of a modern generation....some say 70 some say 120