The "Days" of Creation

[Joseppi]

It didn’t create anything but an amino acid. It’s not even a complete protein. It was most likely expensive and it just pointed out that even with all we know and can accomplish technologically we can barely make an amino acid. This validates intelligent design if anything. Proving the existence of a Creator isn’t a goal of academia.

Man can’t present the story of the first empty cell and how it prepared itself to have a doorway only letting in life sustaining chemicals.
I’m saying they don’t have to prove a thing only present a believable story of a empty cell with a door.
Chance can’t produce anything scientific.
Not lightning, not atoms, not space, not anything.

 

[Joseppi]

"Scientists have taken a major step forward in developing complex artificial life, by successfully synthesising six out of 16 yeast chromosomes – the molecular structures that carry genes.

This means they're more than one-third of the way to being able to build their own custom-made yeast genomes from scratch, which would be a huge moment in the field of developing lab-made lifeforms."

https://www.sciencealert.com/yeast-...other-step-closer-to-creating-artificial-life

Man has built synthetic dna and inserted it in a nucleus emptied of its dna and installed it with a watermark.
It only goes to show that man can produce technology that someone else designed.
It’s all been done before, for as Jesus said, As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the coming of the Son of man.

 

[Joseppi]

It is accepted that homo sapiens and neandhertals interbred and have a common ancestor.

There is a theory, that because of this interbreeding Europeans have so huge variety of looks (green, brown, blue etc eyes, from ginger through blond to black hair) never seen anywhere else.

https://www.nature.com/news/modern-human-genomes-reveal-our-inner-neanderthal-1.14615
Modern humans interbred with Neanderthals on multiple occasions | WIRED UK

You can’t cross kinds.
Using a long invented word like Neanderthal and assigning it to some bones of man that died after the flood, or finding bones in caves proves nothing.
These heathens are lying and reinventing their stories every time a scientific fact gets in the way.

 

[Joseppi]

Well, you cant start from nothing, if you are not God, right?

Scientists must use what exists...

Life begets life, and kind begets kind.
Chance, happenstance and accidents aren’t involved in any scientific methodology.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Man has built synthetic dna and inserted it in a nucleus emptied of its dna and installed it with a watermark.
It only goes to show that man can produce technology that someone else designed.
It’s all been done before, for as Jesus said, As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the coming of the Son of man.

Here you go. In the King James because you won't accept anything else:

In verse 38 Jesus explains what he means. There is no need to add anything to it.


Matthew 24:37-39 King James Version (KJV)

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

 

[Joseppi]

Here you go. In the King James because you won't accept anything else:

In verse 38 Jesus explains what he means. There is no need to add anything to it.


Matthew 24:37-39 King James Version (KJV)

37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

There’s nothing new under the sun.
And verse 37 is a complete sentence, which the next sentence provides but one example.

 

[Joseppi]

And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. Genesis 1:4

Before there was any sun, moon, stars or heavens there was the heaven, the earth, the deep, waters, and darkness.
As the angels watched God said, Let there be light, and there was light.

That it is stated that God saw the light and a separate clause it is implied that angels did not see the light that God did, or comprehend it as he did.
God judged the light good.
Note that he didn’t say it was perfect. The light was good for serving the purpose of God.
When the light appeared it was mixed with darkness. So, God separated the light from the darkness. This can be understood as the establishing of the dielectric field that permeates space providing the structure light needs to be well defined and not utterly diffused.

Metaphorically the verse describes the angelic predicament the rebellion of the angels produced in heaven.
Note that God teaches eternal truths that are hidden from creatures by means of rightly dividing things assunder to manifest what is not obvious until divided.
Lucifer thought that he knew all things as the sealer of the sum of all that appeared before him. But without God there is no such thing as enlightenment. If
If the eye of man isn’t single as Jesus taught then the whole body law in profound darkness of the worst kind. For although light appears it remains darkness such that man is deluded into thinking he can see when in truth he is blind. This kind of blindness is what occurred in heaven when the angels began to follow the satanic doctrines of the Devil. And in their professed wisdom they became foolish.
This is why God created man and his lower existence for the benefit of the higher angels to be humble and to learn the truth of God. For they also must have faith in the word of God.
Notice that if a man believes God as well as believing man then the man is full of the worst kind of darkness that Jesus warned of.
The entrance of God’s word giveth light. But even as the six water pots at Cana were required to be empty and cleansed and then filled to the brim lest something corrupt them, so must also men’s hearts be emptied of the lies of man and devil, and the false words of philosophy, to be able to see rightly.

 

[Joseppi]

And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness. Genesis 1:4

Before there was any sun, moon, stars or heavens there was the heaven, the earth, the deep, waters, and darkness.
As the angels watched God said, Let there be light, and there was light.

In that “God saw the light” is a separate clause, it is implied that angels did not see the light that God did, or comprehend it as he did.

God judged the light good.

Note that he didn’t say it was perfect. The light was good for serving the purpose of God.

When the light appeared it was mixed with darkness. (diffused) So, God separated the light from the darkness. This can be understood as the establishing of the dielectric field that permeates space providing the structure light needs to be well defined and not utterly diffused.

Metaphorically the verse describes the angelic predicament the rebellion of the angels produced in heaven.

Note that God teaches eternal truths that are hidden from creatures by means of rightly dividing things assunder to manifest what is not obvious until divided. This is a common approach in the narrative of creation and forward.

Lucifer thought that he knew all things for he was the sealer of the sum of all that appeared before him.
But without God there is no such thing as enlightenment.

If the eye of man isn’t single as Jesus taught then the whole body law in profound darkness of the worst kind. For although light appears it remains darkness such that man is easily deluded into thinking he can see, when in truth he is blind.
This kind of blindness is what occurred in heaven when the angels began to follow the satanic doctrines of the Devil. And in their professed wisdom they became foolish.

This is why God created man and his lower existence for the benefit of the higher angels to be humble and learn the truth of God. For they also must have faith in the word of God.

Notice that if a man believes God as well as believing man, then the man is full of the worst kind of darkness that Jesus warned of.

The entrance of God’s word giveth light.

It is as the six water pots at Cana were required to be empty and cleansed and then filled to the brim lest something corrupt them, so must also men’s hearts be emptied of the lies of man and devil, and the false words of philosophy, to be able to see rightly.

 

[Hungry]

Saying man is genetically like apes is a trick.
It’s like saying the architecture of one library is like another library while ignoring that the books aren’t the same.
Flour, eggs, water and sugar don’t compare to the most most complex technical language known.

Im not giving a science lecture, just simplifying a few misunderstandings. All mammals share a majority of DNA. It’s not a plug for evolution, just pointing out that every time Fords comes out with a new vehicle they don’t reinvent the wheel or most systems. We all share similar DNA because we are living on the same planet.

 

[Joseppi]

Im not giving a science lecture, just simplifying a few misunderstandings. All mammals share a majority of DNA. It’s not a plug for evolution, just pointing out that every time Fords comes out with a new vehicle they don’t reinvent the wheel or most systems. We all share similar DNA because we are living on the same planet.

I note that what matters in defining the diversity of life is not what is similar between kinds of creatures but the notable differences.
All men see the vast differences between ape and man. And that apes have not improved.
The heathens beg us to allow them eons of time because they can only tell silly stories about a time they say is so long ago that we ought to allow them excuses for not being able to provide valid and repeatable experimental evidences for their theories
The law of kind begets kind is experimentally valid. The law that only life begets life is also experiential valid.
Adam wasn’t a son of a beast.

 

[posthuman]

It didn’t create anything but an amino acid. It’s not even a complete protein. It was most likely expensive and it just pointed out that even with all we know and can accomplish technologically we can barely make an amino acid. This validates intelligent design if anything. Proving the existence of a Creator isn’t a goal of academia.

It wasn't even the right amino acid, even after the experiment was severely rigged in favor of creating one, and no longer bore any resemblance to the environment it was trying to test. Amino acids fold into left and right helices, and life only has left-helix amino acids. All lab produced amino acids in every experiment like this have been right-helix. And only the very simplest were ever spontaneously produced, and in totally wrong concentration, and only when the experiment has been ridiculously compromised with bias towards making them, using environmental variables set to values that in no way whatsoever represent what we think early earth was like.

 

[posthuman]

What I learned in my 'liberal science education' it's that experimental science has completely blown up any notion of abiogenesis, repeatedly. That the more mankind has learned about molecular biology the more absolutely fantastically improbable any of it coming together by accident is. From my atheist teachers, yes, that's what I learned.

Which is exactly why ideas like panspermia are out there.


Don't trust what talk show pundits tell you science education is all about. Those guys got their own agendas you know.

 

[Joseppi]

And God called the light Day,
and the darkness he called Night.
And the evening and the morning were the first day. Genesis 5

Before the sun, moon, and stars were made, God defined Day, and Night.

One reason this makes sense is because, had God waited till the sun, moon and stars were made it would’ve been difficult to separate what God defined as; Day and Night, from the understanding of, evening and morning.

We can then understand the capitalization of Day and Night as not related to any daily cycle.

We can refer the capitalization of Day and Night to the capitalization of Heaven which comes later in the narrative.
At this earlier time there was yet one heaven. Later when there are two other heavens created it becomes apparent that Heaven is capitalized because it refers to the most high kingdom of God above, were God’s throne is and angels dwell with God.

That is, the straightforward understanding is that there exists a kingdom of light called Day, and a kingdom of darkness called Night.

The naming occured while only one heaven existed revealing that rebellion existed in heaven between two factions. That the satanic luciferian illumination darkens counsel, and uses darkness like a shadow of truth.

It pleased God to not destroy the rebellious as was his right. Instead he began the first day of his plan to teach what good and evil are, why it behooves all to choose good and reject evil.

The evening and the morning were the first day. And that day began with evening and ended at end of day. This shows us that, this lower creation centered on man, is God’s response to the awareness of the knowledge of good and evil. For it began as darkness fell and light was promised to come.

By using evening and morning God refers to a day of man, consisting of work and rest.
It also reveals that God’s work will be short.

 

[trofimus]

Man has built synthetic dna and inserted it in a nucleus emptied of its dna and installed it with a watermark.
It only goes to show that man can produce technology that someone else designed.
It’s all been done before, for as Jesus said, As it was in the days of Noah, so shall it be in the days of the coming of the Son of man.

You are expecting science to create from nothing. Thats impossible.

Of course that any scientific experiment works with what this universe already contains. In this stage, they just made artificial DNA. Next step can push it further etc.

 

[trofimus]

You can’t cross kinds.
Using a long invented word like Neanderthal and assigning it to some bones of man that died after the flood, or finding bones in caves proves nothing.
These heathens are lying and reinventing their stories every time a scientific fact gets in the way.

Get to a science conference and prove that these are lies. It will have a deeper impact than to tell that anonymously on an internet forum for Christians, from layman to laymen.

 

[trofimus]

Those guys got their own agendas you know.

Everybody has some agenda... all possible camps of thought.

Thats why scientific experiments and tests are so important. We need facts, not agendas.

 

[Hungry]

Everybody has some agenda... all possible camps of thought.

Thats why scientific experiments and tests are so important. We need facts, not agendas.

Even if someone who seeks the truth has no agenda, we all bare presupposition which may not influence results but definitely how we interpret those results....even devout Christians on a forum. Since we could sing songs in Sunday school, our brain has been programmed to accept that the earth and all life forms were created in six days. As well, we were programmed not to question the Bible for it is the inerrant Word of God. When debate arises, that is the foundation for all arguments. Considering any other possibility is just false. While others who are trying to piece together information like a puzzle to achieve the accurate picture, those who start from a preconceived foundation, force pieces where they don't fit, no matter how silly the image takes form.

I believe every Christian has the Holy Spirit to guide their understanding. When you go back and read the entire Bible as a sceptic you see other possibilities of interpretation. The scribes translated it properly but sometimes the alternative meanings of words can be based on false preconceptions. If I was teaching genetics to preschoolers I would use dumbed down explanations because they don’t have the elemental understanding of DNA, RNA, chromosomes or biology to fathom the concepts entirely. Much of the Bible was written for preschoolers. As knowledge increases when you go back with an open mind you can fill in the blanks. It’s like when you finish watching a mystery movie. If you watch it again, the clues all pop out and you are baffled why you didn’t pick up on them before.

 

[trofimus]

If I was teaching genetics to preschoolers I would use dumbed down explanations because they don’t have the elemental understanding of DNA, RNA, chromosomes or biology to fathom the concepts entirely. Much of the Bible was written for preschoolers.

Exactly. Genesis was written by somebody who had no idea about Universe, laws of physics, age of earth etc.

He expressed inspired ideas in his own language and thoughts.

 

[Joseppi]

You are expecting science to create from nothing. Thats impossible.

Of course that any scientific experiment works with what this universe already contains. In this stage, they just made artificial DNA. Next step can push it further etc.

The reason I discuss science is because it is being used to attack faith in God.
The science of man is not in itself important because it deals with temporal matters and things. It’s interesting to know technically but it can’t save man.

The synthetic dna experiment, and technological achievement I mentioned, shows that man can, and I’m convinced will, therefore, manipulate the bodies of man and other creatures. To what extent I’m uncertain. But the heathen will work evil, and Satan will seek man’s utter destruction.

That aside, for technology is always subverted to carnal ends, and so, its not news, my aim is to inform saints of the difference between a true and technological science, and a false and philosophical science. That the true danger is the lies of philosophical sciences aimed at destrying faith in God, Jesus Christ and the written word of God.

 

[Joseppi]

Get to a science conference and prove that these are lies. It will have a deeper impact than to tell that anonymously on an internet forum for Christians, from layman to laymen.

There are men doing what you propose. And in doing so such men are talented, and devoted to science. Which I am not.
My attack is that of a common man that points out what all can readily see for themselves if they look for themselves.
In Babylon, science and magic we’re married to form a elite priesthood. This occurs because men seek power and prestige for themselves, and true science can’t provide mastery over the religious faith of the masses.
So men of science are subverted towards magic to provide the semblance of god like power and understanding. To that end they lie and propagandize the lie, especially towards children and child like minds.