The "Days" of Creation

[Joseppi]

Even if someone who seeks the truth has no agenda, we all bare presupposition which may not influence results but definitely how we interpret those results....even devout Christians on a forum. Since we could sing songs in Sunday school, our brain has been programmed to accept that the earth and all life forms were created in six days. As well, we were programmed not to question the Bible for it is the inerrant Word of God. When debate arises, that is the foundation for all arguments. Considering any other possibility is just false. While others who are trying to piece together information like a puzzle to achieve the accurate picture, those who start from a preconceived foundation, force pieces where they don't fit, no matter how silly the image takes form.

I believe every Christian has the Holy Spirit to guide their understanding. When you go back and read the entire Bible as a sceptic you see other possibilities of interpretation. The scribes translated it properly but sometimes the alternative meanings of words can be based on false preconceptions. If I was teaching genetics to preschoolers I would use dumbed down explanations because they don’t have the elemental understanding of DNA, RNA, chromosomes or biology to fathom the concepts entirely. Much of the Bible was written for preschoolers. As knowledge increases when you go back with an open mind you can fill in the blanks. It’s like when you finish watching a mystery movie. If you watch it again, the clues all pop out and you are baffled why you didn’t pick up on them before.

True science is founded on valid and repeatable scientific experiments that lead to predictable outcomes.
If one can’t predict they can’t prove they know anything. On the job or off.

False science claims to possess philosophical truth and is left only with unprovable knowledge of the past and magic, all undergirded by mere assumptions.

I assert that philosophy is vanity, that no man knows the past, that magic is a lie, and that the assumptions are are not believable as true.

I assert that there is only one true history of man and cosmos, that is proven by historical eyewitness testimony, and upon the ability of God to prove his understanding by the ability to predict outcome, all found in his written word, and aimed at the salvation of mankind and the establishing of righteousness and truth.

 

[Hungry]

There are men doing what you propose. And in doing so such men are talented, and devoted to science. Which I am not.
My attack is that of a common man that points out what all can readily see for themselves if they look for themselves.
In Babylon, science and magic we’re married to form a elite priesthood. This occurs because men seek power and prestige for themselves, and true science can’t provide mastery over the religious faith of the masses.
So men of science are subverted towards magic to provide the semblance of god like power and understanding. To that end they lie and propagandize the lie, especially towards children and child like minds.

It’s similar to the reference Christ made, “These people are like sheep without a shepherd.” Most people are sheep ready to follow the biggest herd. It’s human nature to resist change and avoid pain. Whatever you can teach them in their formative (soft clay) years will harden in adolescence and be the foundation for every other bit of information to follow. It’s not teaching the hard clay, that brings change. Luciferians who have been brought up in that faith, and defect, tell others how for decades the plan has been in effect. One generation at a time they mix a little lie into the truth. Bit by bit, this lie is digested until eventually the truth seems like a lie. The churches have been infiltrated, the government and academia are all moving towards endgame. It’s like trying to win a chess game with a king and a pawn, when the opposition is stacked against you. Prophecy tells us this gameboard will be reset and all of us pawns if we stay the course will be changed to “queens” as the bride of Christ. We won’t convince the herd that they are lost. It is imperative to focus on the lost sheep. The ones who know they are lost are the only ones looking for direction. These are who Christ went to. They are our mission field. The harvest is ripe.

 

[Joseppi]

Exactly. Genesis was written by somebody who had no idea about Universe, laws of physics, age of earth etc.

He expressed inspired ideas in his own language and thoughts.

That is a lie.
There exists no science of creation.
And the Holy Bible stands on truthful historical testimony and historical facts that can’t be hidden.
All the heathen do is lie, and spin tales contrary to the Holy Bible.
The heathen assumptions are easily disregarded as wishful spin.

There doesn’t exist any history but the biblical history within the Holy Bible. That fact alone destroys all the made up history of any heathen manufacture.

Heathens can’t present the most basic history of man much less be thought able to create a belieable story about the past that explains the origins of anything based on true science.

Not only that the stories now presented require men to believe absurd things.
Chalkboards, cartoons and videos spun out by modern man presents no evidence of truth.

Heathen science must rely on the power of government to promote the silly lies they tell. That also should inform the common man of the weakness undergirding the approved storylines of false sciences.

 

[Joseppi]

It’s similar to the reference Christ made, “These people are like sheep without a shepherd.” Most people are sheep ready to follow the biggest herd.

Given this subject, and in need of glasses when reading, I had to laugh when I misread your sentence as ending with “the biggest nerd.”

I liked your post.

 

[Hungry]

True science is founded on valid and repeatable scientific experiments that lead to predictable outcomes.
If one can’t predict they can’t prove they know anything. On the job or off.

False science claims to possess philosophical truth and is left only with unprovable knowledge of the past and magic, all undergirded by mere assumptions.

I assert that philosophy is vanity, that no man knows the past, that magic is a lie, and that the assumptions are are not believable as true.

I assert that there is only one true history of man and cosmos, that is proven by historical eyewitness testimony, and upon the ability of God to prove his understanding by the ability to predict outcome, all found in his written word, and aimed at the salvation of mankind and the establishing of righteousness and truth.

Agreed it is in His written Word but with so many voices screaming in contradiction regarding the same passages, who will you believe? I believe philosophy is another word for meditation. What you philosophize about could be vanity. Most people would rather be spoon fed another’s interpretation. When I took the first chapter of James at face value and applied its instruction, my eyes were truly opened to the meaning of scripture. I meditated regularly on passages fasting and in Spirit, and they were explained to me. It’s like doing a sudoku puzzle or crossword puzzle and are stuck, then realize you entered wrong data. Once you make the correction, all of the puzzle just starts getting easier, and making sense, then you can fully finish.

 

[trofimus]

There are men doing what you propose. And in doing so such men are talented, and devoted to science.

They were not apparently successfull so far.

Its easier to write something on YEC creationist webpages targeted to same thinking people than to actually prove it factually in scientific community (i.e. to people who know better how it works).

 

[garee]

I will offer another perspective .

Before God created time, a beginning (day and night) it previously was after the order that in Revelation 21 , which it
will return to in the new heavens and earth when this corruptible creation puts in the incorruptible.

Rev 21:23 And the city had no need of the sun, neither of the moon, to shine in it: for the glory of God did lighten it, and the Lamb is the light thereof.


It’s one of those issues that did not take God by surprise. God knew before hand when he discovered the father of lies would try and make the true source of light, the eternal into the temporal as that seen....Sun and moon) as the god of this world and remove the faith principle found in .... 2Co 4:18

2Co 4:18 While we look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for the things which are seen are temporal; but the things which are not seen are eternal.

In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.Gen 1:5

There was no Sun or Moon . The process of dying indicated by the temporal Sun and moon had begun along with the gospel.

You could say day four he turned on the temporal switch, His glory returning to where it was before creation in preparation of His bride the church .

Rev 21:11 Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;

And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.And the evening and the morning were the fourth day. Gen 1:14

Talk about hot flashes when that switch was turned on we can still feel the heat the older ones need..

 

[LibrarianLeo]

I will offer another perspective .

Before God created time,

Likely "time" began at The Fall. Even now we measure time by the deterioration of things.
Before the Fall, Adam was not scheduled to die.

 

[LibrarianLeo]

Heathen science must rely on the power of government to promote the silly lies they tell.

A lot of scientists are Christian and are believers.

 

[LibrarianLeo]

Heathens can’t present the most basic history of man much less be thought able to create a believable story about the past that explains the origins of anything based on true science.

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SCIENTIFIC DISCIPLINES ESTABLISHED
BY CREATIONIST SCIENTISTS​

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[TD="align: center"]DISCIPLINE[/TD]
[TD="align: center"]SCIENTIST[/TD]
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[TD]ANTISEPTIC SURGERY[/TD]
[TD]JOSEPH LISTER (1827-1912)[/TD]
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[TD]BACTERIOLOGY[/TD]
[TD]LOUIS PASTEUR (1822-1895)[/TD]
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[TD]CALCULUS[/TD]
[TD]ISAAC NEWTON (1642-1727)[/TD]
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[TD]CELESTIAL MECHANICS[/TD]
[TD]JOHANN KEPLER (1571-1630)[/TD]
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[TD]CHEMISTRY[/TD]
[TD]ROBERT BOYLE (1627-1691)[/TD]
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[TD]COMPARATIVE ANATOMY[/TD]
[TD]GEORGES CUVIER (1769-1832)[/TD]
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[TD]COMPUTER SCIENCE[/TD]
[TD]CHARLES BABBAGE (1792-1871)[/TD]
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[TD]DIMENSIONAL ANALYSIS[/TD]
[TD]LORD RAYLEIGH (1842-1919)[/TD]
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[TD]DYNAMICS[/TD]
[TD]ISAAC NEWTON (1642-1727)[/TD]
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[TD]ELECTRONICS[/TD]
[TD]JOHN AMBROSE FLEMING (1849-1945)[/TD]
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[TD]ELECTRODYNAMICS[/TD]
[TD]JAMES CLERK MAXWELL (1831-1879)[/TD]
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[TD]ELECTRO-MAGNETICS[/TD]
[TD]MICHAEL FARADAY (1791-1867)[/TD]
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[TD]ENERGETICS[/TD]
[TD]LORD KELVIN (1824-1907)[/TD]
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[TD]ENTOMOLOGY OF LIVING INSECTS[/TD]
[TD]HENRI FABRE (1823-1915)[/TD]
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[TD]FIELD THEORY[/TD]
[TD]MICHAEL FARADAY (1791-1867)[/TD]
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[TD]FLUID MECHANICS[/TD]
[TD]GEORGE STOKES (1819-1903)[/TD]
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[TD]GALACTIC ASTRONOMY[/TD]
[TD]WILLIAM HERSCHEL (1738-1822)[/TD]
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[TD]GAS DYNAMICS[/TD]
[TD]ROBERT BOYLE (1627-1691)[/TD]
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[TD]GENETICS[/TD]
[TD]GREGOR MENDEL (1822-1884)[/TD]
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[TD]GLACIAL GEOLOGY[/TD]
[TD]LOUIS AGASSIZ (1807-1873)[/TD]
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[TD]GYNECOLOGY[/TD]
[TD]JAMES SIMPSON (1811-1870)[/TD]
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[TD]HYDRAULICS[/TD]
[TD]LEONARDO DA VINCI (1452-1519)[/TD]
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[TD]HYDROGRAPHY[/TD]
[TD]MATTHEW MAURY (1806-1873)[/TD]
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[TD]HYDROSTATICS[/TD]
[TD]BLAISE PASCAL (1623-1662)[/TD]
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[TD]ICHTHYOLOGY[/TD]
[TD]LOUIS AGASSIZ (1807-1873)[/TD]
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[TD]ISOTOPIC CHEMISTRY[/TD]
[TD]WILLIAM RAMSAY (1852-1916)[/TD]
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[TD]MODEL ANALYSIS[/TD]
[TD]LORD RAYLEIGH (1842-1919)[/TD]
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[TD]NATURAL HISTORY[/TD]
[TD]JOHN RAY (1627-1705)[/TD]
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[TD]NON-EUCLIDEAN GEOMETRY[/TD]
[TD]BERNHARD RIEMANN (1826- 1866)[/TD]
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[TD]OCEANOGRAPHY[/TD]
[TD]MATTHEW MAURY (1806-1873)[/TD]
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[TD]OPTICAL MINERALOGY[/TD]
[TD]DAVID BREWSTER (1781-1868)[/TD]
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[TD]PALEONTOLOGY[/TD]
[TD]JOHN WOODWARD (1665-1728)[/TD]
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[TD]PATHOLOGY[/TD]
[TD]RUDOLPH VIRCHOW (1821-1902)[/TD]
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[TD]PHYSICAL ASTRONOMY[/TD]
[TD]JOHANN KEPLER (1571-1630)[/TD]
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[TD]REVERSIBLE THERMODYNAMICS[/TD]
[TD]JAMES JOULE (1818-1889)[/TD]
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[TD]STATISTICAL THERMODYNAMICS[/TD]
[TD]JAMES CLERK MAXWELL (1831-1879)[/TD]
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[TD]STRATIGRAPHY[/TD]
[TD]NICHOLAS STENO (1631-1686)[/TD]
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[TD]SYSTEMATIC BIOLOGY[/TD]
[TD]CAROLUS LINNAEUS (1707-1778)[/TD]
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[TD]THERMODYNAMICS[/TD]
[TD]LORD KELVIN (1824-1907)[/TD]
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[TD]HUMPHREY DAVY (1778-1829)[/TD]
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[TD]GEORGES CUVIER (1769-1832)[/TD]
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NOTABLE INVENTIONS, DISCOVERIES
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[TD]ABSOLUTE TEMPERATURE SCALE[/TD]
[TD]LORD KELVIN (1824-1907)[/TD]
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[TD]ACTUARIAL TABLES[/TD]
[TD]CHARLES BABBAGE (1792-1871)[/TD]
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[TD]BAROMETER[/TD]
[TD]BLAISE PASCAL (1623-1662)[/TD]
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[TD]BIOGENESIS LAW[/TD]
[TD]LOUIS PASTEUR (1822-1895)[/TD]
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[TD]CALCULATING MACHINE[/TD]
[TD]CHARLES BABBAGE (1792-1871)[/TD]
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[TD]CHLOROFORM[/TD]
[TD]JAMES SIMPSON (1811-1870)[/TD]
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[TD]CLASSIFICATION SYSTEM[/TD]
[TD]CAROLUS LINNAEUS (1707-1778)[/TD]
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[TD]DOUBLE STARS[/TD]
[TD]WILLIAM HERSCHEL (1738-1822)[/TD]
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[TD]ELECTRIC GENERATOR[/TD]
[TD]MICHAEL FARADAY (1791-1867)[/TD]
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[TD]ELECTRIC MOTOR[/TD]
[TD]JOSEPH HENRY (1797-1878)[/TD]
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[TD]EPHEMERIS TABLES[/TD]
[TD]JOHANN KEPLER (1571-1630)[/TD]
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[TD]FERMENTATION CONTROL[/TD]
[TD]LOUIS PASTEUR (1822-1895)[/TD]
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[TD]GALVANOMETER[/TD]
[TD]JOSEPH HENRY (1797-1878)[/TD]
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[TD]GLOBAL STAR CATALOG[/TD]
[TD]JOHN HERSCHEL (1792-1871)[/TD]
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[TD]INERT GASES[/TD]
[TD]WILLIAM RAMSAY (1852-1916)[/TD]
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[TD]KALEIDOSCOPE[/TD]
[TD]DAVID BREWSTER (1781-1868)[/TD]
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[TD]LAW OF GRAVITY[/TD]
[TD]ISAAC NEWTON (1642-1727)[/TD]
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[TD]MINE SAFETY LAMP[/TD]
[TD]HUMPHREY DAVY (1778-1829)[/TD]
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[TD]PASTEURIZATION[/TD]
[TD]LOUIS PASTEUR (1822-1895)[/TD]
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[TD]REFLECTING TELESCOPE[/TD]
[TD]ISAAC NEWTON (1642-1727)[/TD]
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[TD]SCIENTIFIC METHOD[/TD]
[TD]FRANCIS BACON (1561-1626)[/TD]
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[TD]SELF-INDUCTION[/TD]
[TD]JOSEPH HENRY (1797-1878)[/TD]
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[TD]TELEGRAPH[/TD]
[TD]SAMUEL F.B. MORSE (1791-1872)[/TD]
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[TD]THERMIONIC VALVE[/TD]
[TD]AMBROSE FLEMING (1849-1945)[/TD]
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[TD]TRANS-ATLANTIC CABLE[/TD]
[TD]LORD KELVIN (1824-1907)[/TD]
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[TD]VACCINATION & IMMUNIZATION


The Institute for Creation Research[/TD]
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[trofimus]

I am not certain what such list are supposed to prove.

A list with 1000 atheist scientists can be made.

A list with 1000 christian scientists with evolution view can be made

Etc.

The only thing it proves is that some kind of science can be done with whatever worldview.

 

[Joseppi]

They were not apparently successfull so far.

That’s true.
But, God already has chosen the foolishness of preaching to reach the lost.
The wise of the world are typically beyond reaching because they are vain in their own imaginations.
And they that seek to be rich in this world are also typically beyond reaching due to the deceitfulness of riches.

Jesus told us in parable what God will do when the world gives excuses for not coming to his feast.
Scoffers are predicted, the Gentiles will turn away from the gospel, and only a remnant of Jews shall be saved.
Men will ignore the evidence and say the global flood of Noah never happened.
There will be false science.
Etc.

 

[Joseppi]

Genesis 1:6 And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.

The firmament is derived from firma as used in terra-firma. Ment: a suffix making firma, which means; solid, an action.

A command. Establishing what we call, Uni-verse. A single spoken word.
Which suggests gravitation.

For, terra; which means, ground, is the solid mass of the universe. And all things celestial that God made in Genesis 1, is of earth.

Light however is energy infused in earth by the command of God out of which the earth is commanded to let it shine. Revealing the scientific truth.

This is why the earth has all elemental things.

Even angels use ladders or some other mechanism, not magic, to come down to earth.

And what goes up must come down.

For first there was a singular heaven and the earth was there under many waters.

An active potential exists between heaven above and the earth below.

God will one day melt all earth, even the earth in the heavens as well, and remake a new heaven and a new earth. Which will be perfect.
For earth can neither be created nor destroyed but by God.

The waters refer to the words of angels, their philosophies. As the waters of the great sea refers to the words of men. And the deep referring to the deepest words. The washing of the water of the word. And the word of God falls like rain upon the just and the unjust.
God seperated so as to form man in his own lower kingdom.
To reveal what man shall prove by having faith in God, in Jesus Christ.

1 John 5:8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.

For the Spirit moved upon the face of the waters,
and is in Heaven.
The word of God is on earth .
And, Jesus sits on the right hand of God in Heaven.
And the blood is sprinkled abroad in our hearts as with hysop by the Holy Ghost.”, and lays upon the altar of God in Heaven.

God called his creation good because it is good for making perfect.

 

[Joseppi]

Genesis 1:7 And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
Genesis 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

God made the universe which is the firmament constructed of three heavens.
He called its total construct, Heaven.
This shows the original singular heaven which was divided is still one space that is one day to resolved back into one world with one new earth and one heaven above it.

 

[Joseppi]

Genesis 1:8 And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.

The evening and the morning that define the second day is the same, length of time design parameter, a single common man work day, that defines all seven days of creation week.
Thus, this universe is designed by God, for man on earth to comprehend eternal truths even as the angels are being also taught things they formerly didn’t know. Which, some in their unbelief of God, had rebelled, and have been driven toward evil in their rebellion, rather than accept
the eternal truth of God’s is worthiness to be God, (for God is love and truth) having authority and power above all other lesser God’s he created.

 

[Joseppi]

Genesis 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
Genesis 1:10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

On the earth the waters were gathered into one place which was caused by the rise of earth upwards to form dry land called Earth by God, and the pocketing of waters into notable areas called Seas, by God.

This shows man that even though earth is earth, nevertheless, Earth as dry land is the design God had in mind as the focal point of his plan for mankind.
And that Seas are bodies of water for sustaining man on Earth. As opposed to waters kept in reserve for judgment and trapped yet today deep in the earth.

There is a hydrostatic balance struck between the raised Earth and the waters below. And a balance between lower earth and Earth and Seas according to weight.
This is why when flood waters from below the Earth came up on top of the earth during Noah’s flood, and great ice sheets melted after the flood, the ocean basins sank to accommodate the weight of the waters. And the Earth, as it then had become continents, rebounded upwards also.
All the ice sheets of the earth have been steadily retreating toward stasis and the waters of them are designed to be accommodated so that the waters can’t rise to overflow the Earth again.
The Earth also was shifted to accommodate the waters and so, the deep water sorted sediments of the flood of Noah sitting on the continents of a Earth were thrust rapidly into the sky (heaven) as mountains and hills and show residual motion to this day.

 

[Joseppi]

Genesis 1:9 And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
Genesis 1:10 And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.

On the earth the waters were gathered into one place which was caused by the rise of earth upwards to form dry land, called Earth, by God, and the pocketing of waters into notable areas, called Seas, by God.

This shows man that even though earth is earth, nevertheless; Earth, as dry land, is the design God had in mind as the focal point of his plan for mankind.
And that Seas are bodies of water for sustaining man on Earth. As opposed to waters kept in reserve for judgment and trapped yet today deep in the earth.

There is a hydrostatic balance struck between the raised Earth and the waters below. And a balance between lower earth and Earth and Seas according to weight.

This is why when; the flood waters from below, fountained upwards onto the Earth during Noah’s flood, and great ice sheets melted after the flood, the ocean basins sank to accommodate the weight of the waters.

And the Earth, as it then had become continents, rebounded upwards also.

All the ice sheets of the earth have been steadily retreating toward stasis and the waters of them are designed by weight to be accommodated downwards by sinking the ocean basins further, so that the waters can’t rise to overflow the Earth again.

The Earth also was shifted upwards and horizontally, to accommodate the flood waters. And so, the deep water sorted sediments of the flood of Noah sitting on the continents of a Earth were thrust rapidly into the sky (heaven) as mountains and hills, and horizontally as continental shifts, and show residual motion to this day.

 

[LibrarianLeo]

The evening and the morning that define the second day is the same, length of time design parameter, a single common man work day, that defines all seven days of creation week.
Thus, this universe is designed by God, for man on earth to comprehend eternal truths even as the angels are being also taught things they formerly didn’t know. Which, some in their unbelief of God, had rebelled, and have been driven toward evil in their rebellion, rather than accept
the eternal truth of God’s is worthiness to be God, (for God is love and truth) having authority and power above all other lesser God’s he created.

So your saying that God used night fall, then the next morning, on some point on the earth, to define a day?
How does that define a day?

 

[LibrarianLeo]

I am not certain what such list are supposed to prove.

A list with 1000 atheist scientists can be made.

A list with 1000 christian scientists with evolution view can be made

Etc.

The only thing it proves is that some kind of science can be done with whatever worldview.

Correct. Good science can be found acceptable to any worldview.

 

[LibrarianLeo]

You could say day four he turned on the temporal switch, His glory returning to where it was before creation in preparation of His bride the church .

Yes. And you could say that a 24 hour day was not indicated, since the day cycle was
described 4 days before any stars were created. One wouldn't even notice any spinning
with no stars to circle in the sky.