The Gospels

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Churinga

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Are the Gospels directed to the lost sheep of the house of Israel only?
 
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Are the Gospels directed to the lost sheep of the house of Israel only?
Jesus said that He was only sent to the lost sheep of Israel, so it only went out to the Jews at first, but then it went out to the Gentiles, which when a Gentile is saved they become a Jew inward, and part of the commonwealth of Israel, and Jesus said salvation is of the Jews.

The Bible says salvation is to the Jew first, and then the Gentile, and the Gospel is for all people regardless of what nation they belong to, which Peter said that God is no respecter of persons, for in every nation those that fear God, and works righteousness, is accepted by Him.

The Gospels cannot be directed only to the Jews if God is giving the world salvation, and Jesus is the only way to be saved, the Gospel of Christ, so it is for the world.

The Bible says that Jesus is the Savior of the world, and the Lamb that takes away the sins of the world, not only the Jews.
 

Grace911

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Mat 15:22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
Mat 15:23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
Mat 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 15:25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
Mat 15:26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
Mat 15:27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
Mat 15:28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

Luk 16:21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

The "Jews" called Gentiles dogs. It didn't matter whether you were of the lost sheep of the House of Israel (ten tribes?) or a Caananite or some other origin. I think Jesus was making two points in the above verses, He was sent to bring the House of Israel back into His coming Kingdom, but God has always taken in to the "fold" anyone who wants to follow the God of Israel.
 

theanointedwinner

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Are the Gospels directed to the lost sheep of the house of Israel only?
If it's only directed to the lost sheep of the house of Israel

then why bother, since we are not from Israel, why bother?

the answer is "no"
 

Locutus

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Are the Gospels directed to the lost sheep of the house of Israel only?
Nope - Jesus ministry was to Israel - the gospel was too be shared in the nations:

Matt 24:14 “This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.

Mark 16:15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.

Paul was part of that preaching:

Col 1:23 if indeed you continue in the faith firmly established and steadfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel that you have heard, which was proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, was made a minister.
 

Churinga

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Nope - Jesus ministry was to Israel - the gospel was too be shared in the nations:

Matt 24:14 “This gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.

Mark 16:15 And He said to them, “Go into all the world and preach the gospel to all creation.

Paul was part of that preaching:

Col 1:23 if indeed you continue in the faith firmly established and steadfast, and not moved away from the hope of the gospel that you have heard, which was proclaimed in all creation under heaven, and of which I, Paul, was made a minister.
Was Paul not appointed as the Apostle to the Gentiles?
 

Locutus

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Was Paul not appointed as the Apostle to the Gentiles?
Acts 17:1 Now when they had traveled through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where there was a synagogue of the Jews.

Acts 17:2 And according to Paul’s custom, he went to them, and for three Sabbaths reasoned with them from the Scriptures

Paul preached to both - but he agreed with the "pillars" in Jerusalem thusly:

Gal 2:9 and recognizing the grace that had been given to me, James and Cephas and John, who were reputed to be pillars, gave to me and Barnabas the right hand of fellowship, so that we might go to the Gentiles and they to the circumcised.
 

Quantrill

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Are the Gospels directed to the lost sheep of the house of Israel only?
The whole Bible is the Book of Redeemption. Salvation has always been to any who wanted to saved. Even after God chose and created the nation of Israel as the specific people from where salvation was to be found, Gentiles could be saved. Ask yourself, how did the wise men know so much about Jesus Christ so as to leave their far away home and follow the star?

When one comes to the four Gospels, I believe there are certain things to be considered if you make a study of them. Some say they are just what each of the writers could remember. That is not true. Each Gospel presents the Person of Jesus Christ in somewhat different light or angle. Each Gospel has it's own peculiar emphasis. But no matter what the emphasis, Jesus Christ is the Saviour of all men, and any who come to Him will be saved.

Here is a brief framework from which to build on. It is not original to me by any means as many have understood and written about it.

Matthew---Presents Jesus Christ as King of the Jews. The Messiah. The Kingdom offered to Israel. Audience would be considered Jews. Genealogy goes back to Abraham only as that is required of the Messiah.

Mark---Presents Jesus Christ as a Servant. A Gospel of action instead of sermons and preaching. Fast moving with many miracles showing the Kingdom of God attacking the kingdom of satan. Audience would be considered Romans. No genealogy as one doesn't care where a servant is from, just what he can do.

Luke---Presents the Man, Jesus Christ. Shows the historical order of events. It is universal in its outreach. Audience is considered to be Greek. Genealogy goes back to Adam, as He is born of the Adamic race.

John---Presents Jesus Christ as The Son of God. Written to any who believe. Audience is considered the Church or any who believe. The genealogy is "The Word was with God and was God." (Jn. 1:1)

This is very general information, but important to know when beginning a study on one of the Gospels. For this I used 'Halley's Bible Handbook', by Henry Halley, and 'A survey of the New Testament' by Robert Gundry.

Quantrill
 

Churinga

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Mat 15:22 And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
Mat 15:23 But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
Mat 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 15:25 Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
Mat 15:26 But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
Mat 15:27 And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
Mat 15:28 Then Jesus answered and said unto her, O woman, great is thy faith: be it unto thee even as thou wilt. And her daughter was made whole from that very hour.

Luk 16:21 And desiring to be fed with the crumbs which fell from the rich man's table: moreover the dogs came and licked his sores.

The "Jews" called Gentiles dogs. It didn't matter whether you were of the lost sheep of the House of Israel (ten tribes?) or a Caananite or some other origin. I think Jesus was making two points in the above verses, He was sent to bring the House of Israel back into His coming Kingdom, but God has always taken in to the "fold" anyone who wants to follow the God of Israel.
The message was to the lost sheep and until they rejected Jesus the Gentiles did not enter the picture, but this simple truth has been ignored and the childrens bread is still being cast to dogs which is why we have such an awful state within the Church.
 

Locutus

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The message was to the lost sheep and until they rejected Jesus the Gentiles did not enter the picture, but this simple truth has been ignored and the childrens bread is still being cast to dogs which is why we have such an awful state within the Church.
I think you are drawing wrong conclusions here, but then you've given not supporting scriptures.

I'm guessing here, you are basing your statement based on what happened here?:

Acts 18:6 But when they opposed Paul and became abusive, he shook out his clothes in protest and said to them, “Your blood be on your own heads! I am innocent of it. From now on I will go to the Gentiles.”
 

luigi

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The gospels were and are meant for all believers, who are counted as Abraham's true children of faith. The gospels have no beneficial relevance to they who do not believe in them, whether Jew or Gentile.

Romans 4:16 Therefore it is of faith, that it might be by grace; to the end the promise might be sure to all the seed; not to that only which is of the law, but to that also which is of the faith of Abraham; who is the father of us all,
17 (As it is written, I have made thee a father of many nations,) before him whom he believed, even God, who quickeneth the dead, and calleth those things which be not as though they were.

Romans 9:7 Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
8 That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but the children of the promise are counted for the seed.
 

Grace911

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The message was to the lost sheep and until they rejected Jesus the Gentiles did not enter the picture, but this simple truth has been ignored and the childrens bread is still being cast to dogs which is why we have such an awful state within the Church.
Who are the lost sheep? Please explain how they are different from Gentiles.