the Kingdom of God

[Shamah]

Yes thats why John the Baptist was the last who preached under the authority of the Law. its about Jesus of the tribe of Judah. Jesus has no attendance in the Law, Judah. you need to read Hebrews bro, the priesthood change is really important. all of what im saying is in Hebrews,

hebrews 7 " If therefore perfection were by the Levitical priesthood,(for under it the people received the law,) what further need was there that another priest should rise after the order of Melchisedec, andnot be called after the order of Aaron? <<<


12For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.13For he of whom these things are spoken pertaineth to another tribe, of which no man gave attendance at the altar. <<<


14For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood.<<<< true He didnt

15And it is yet far more evident: for that after the similitude of Melchisedec there ariseth another priest, 16Who is made, not after the law of a carnal commandment, but after the power of an endless life. <<< the resurrection

17For he testifieth, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. <<< not aarons line, but the line of the priest who blessed abraham Gave Him Bread and wine, and then disappeared from scripture...Just as God has promised the gospel to abraham " all people of the earth will be blessed"




18For there is verily a disannulling of the commandment going before for the weakness and unprofitableness thereof. 19For the law made nothing perfect, ( see v 11 ) but the bringing in of a better hope did; by the which we draw nigh unto God.

20And inasmuch as not without an oath he was made priest:21(For those priests were made without an oath; but this with an oath by him that said unto him, The Lord sware and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec22By so much was Jesus made a surety of a better testament.

23And they truly were many priests, because they were not suffered to continue by reason of death: 24But this man, because he continueth ever, hath an unchangeable priesthood.25Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them.
26For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; 27Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself.

28For the law maketh men high priests which have infirmity; but the word of the oath, which was since the law, maketh the Son, who is consecrated for evermore."



if you would look deeper in the book you will see there is a temple in Heaven where God is, and Jesus is the High priest in His presence interceeing for his people, in Heaven. how can the levites be a preisthood when there is no earthly temple? those things are finished they served there use now we Have Jesus Hes way better. try HEBREWS 2-9


and believe what you learn with what you already Know. the new testament is for us its Life.

[FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Luke 16:16-17, "The Law and the Prophets were until John, since that time the Kingdom of YHWH is preached, and every man is pressed to enter it. But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail." [/FONT]


Also I understand Hebrews and I know the difference between the greek words "neos" and "kainos"

Also I understand "metathesis" and "metathemai"

one is a transferral and one is a disbandment and establishment....

To those who seek.

 

[followjesus]

Luke 16:16-17, "The Law and the Prophets were until John, since that time the Kingdom of YHWH is preached, and every man is pressed to enter it. But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."


Also I understand Hebrews and I know the difference between the greek words "neos" and "kainos"

Also I understand "metathesis" and "metathemai"

one is a transferral and one is a disbandment and establishment....

To those who seek.

okay what do the difference is those words have anything to do with the absolute fact that the covenant at horeb is done fulfilled completed ? bro it is impossible to obey Moses law, and the gospel at the same time. its not possible because they are different. you cant seem to accept that the new covenant is not according to what moses said. that's already fulfilled. I'm thinking you may read Hebrews and not accept the entire theme of the book. the old and the new.


The Old is done its finished it was always meant to bring Jesus into the World. its worthless to a Christian to obey Moses it would be disobeying Jesus to do so. because the gospel is for a new child of God, the law was for the condemned . I think that you need to separate what Moses wrote in the book of the law, and the ten commandments which is the covenant Law of God. the law of moses has no place over a Christian its dead weight it will only ever lead to Jesus. that's where it takes a person to the messiah.

it was the entire purpose of it. you need honestly to study what Jesus fulfilling the law and prophets actually means. its not something Jesus did, He is the fulfilment of what the Law of moses and the prophets had to say to mankind. I'm glad you understand the difference in those words, it doesn't change the fact that Christians have the new covenant and are not bound to God by the old. it actually separated them from God because they could not Keep it. I think you should definitely believe as you believe, but understand when you cannot part Moses and Jesus and the covenants. that then obligates you to keep every jot and tittle.


its going to be a conundrum to stone the sinners and also forgive them at the same tin. to turn the other cheek while repaying evil with evil you hit me I hit you now were square or you hit me, I turn the other cheek and forgive you and were square. 2 dofferent spirits because one came through a sinner and One came through the sinless. theres an aweful lot of things you need to obey if you are going to stick with the Mosaic Law. lot of sacrif9ices, ordinances, observances of days, weeks, the moon. need to definitely keep every Sabbath, not Just the One day a week Sabbath but all the ordinance God gave to the Israelites when He delivered them from Egypt......because that's the covenant you cant understand is not yours. there is no place in the law where someone observes parts and then others they don't. so first off you need to find a levite priest because He is the authoprity over you under the Mosaic Law. if you need forgiveness you need to take Him a spotless young lamb of goat so He can transfer your sin onto it and Kill it according to the Mosaic Law under rule of the Levitical preists.


then, you will need to see God as they did, commanding that you come nowhere near Him or yuou ill be put to death. you would have to then be willing to Learn who to stone to death for their sin, and who to excommunicate because of thiers, youll need 2 or 3 witnesses before you kill anyone tho. remember also, when your brother or son or friend sins a sin of death, you then are obligated to witness against them and take part in the justice .


you will need to learn all of the regulatins concerning mold care, cleansing of leperousy, and skin disease, you will need a vat to wash your hands in the tem-ple which doesn't exist anymore. you will need he proiests to do all of the daily duties in the temple which doesn't exist anyLonger. that's about 1 percent of what it would take to abide the law of Moses. of course none of its possible because there is no earthly tabernacle anymore, there is no earthly altar anymore where the acrifices were made for forgiveness. there is no anointing on the Levitical proiesthood anymore because it is all Jesus and the High priesthood of Melchezidek......... you should re read Hebrews and look at it like its explaining two covenants one that came through Moses and the prophets and the pther which came through Jesus His Son. and the old are the carnal commands that have no profit......


God bless ya man, I think we used to have better dialogue, until I realized you are trying to combine 2 covnenants that don't go together.

 

[seed_time_harvest]

what is blasphemy?

define it

IMO,Its attributing evil to GOD.
But blasphemy done by someone thats angry at GOD and later when they aren’t angry,this type of blasphemy will be forgiven but a person blaspheming against the HOLY SPIRIT will not be forgiven IMO means that a person has decided finally that GOD Is not worthy and they REALLY feel this way IN their heart and a person that has REALLY gotten to the point where they really feels like this would not think anything about blaspheming GOD anyway because even though deep down they know there Is a GOD they won’t accept HIM no matter what anyone says.

There Is no help for this person.

 

[followjesus]

Luke 16:16-17, "The Law and the Prophets were until John, since that time the Kingdom of YHWH is preached, and every man is pressed to enter it. But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."


Also I understand Hebrews and I know the difference between the greek words "neos" and "kainos"

Also I understand "metathesis" and "metathemai"

one is a transferral and one is a disbandment and establishment....

To those who seek.

the Law of moses was never going to last because God told moses this as Moses readied for death, the law is within this context.

deuteronomy 31 " And the LORD appeared in the tabernacle in a pillar of a cloud: and the pillar of the cloud stood over the door of the tabernacle. 16And the LORD said unto Moses, Behold, thou shalt sleep with thy fathers; and this people will rise up, and go a whoring after the gods of the strangers of the land, whither they go to be among them, and will forsake me, and break my covenant which I have made with them.
17Then my anger shall be kindled against them in that day, and I will forsake them, and I will hide my face from them, and they shall be devoured, and many evils and troubles shall befall them; so that they will say in that day, Are not these evils come upon us, because our God is not among us? 18And I will surely hide my face in that day for all the evils which they shall have wrought, in that they are turned unto other gods."

this happened exactly as God said it would, and then moses said it would a few verses later after He finishes writing the song of moses, He completes the book of the Law because God has told Him He will soon die and He says....

And it came to pass, when Moses had made an end of writing the words of this law in a book, until they were finished, 25That Moses commanded the Levites, which bare the ark of the covenant of the LORD, saying, 26Take this book of the law, and put it to the side of the ark of the covenant of the LORD your God, that it may be there for a witness against thee. 27For I know thy rebellion, and thy stiff neck: behold, while I am yet alive with you this day, ye have been rebellious against the LORD; and how much more after my death?
28Gather unto me all the elders of your tribes, and your officers, that I may speak these words in their ears, and call heaven and earth to record against them. 29For I know that after my death ye will utterly corrupt yourselves, and turn aside from the way which I have commanded you; and evil will befall you in the latter days; because ye will do evil in the sight of the LORD, to provoke him to anger through the work of your hands."

the Law is for the purpose of witnessing against those God Knew already would abandon and break the covenant and eventually defile it and Bring His wrath on themselves. the Law of Moses has to be taken in this context from a christian point of view, because it is the very thing that brings this promise


jeremiah 31 " Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: 32Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD: <<<<< this is what God said would happen before Moses even finished writing the Law.

Now in Jeremiahs time, the wrath is beginning and Babylon has come. But God is saying " My Wrath you brought upon yourselves will end, and I will have mercy on you, I will make a NEW covenant with you, NOT ACCORDING to the covenant that you broke, the One I made at horeb ( the Law of Moses) the law spoken to Moses on the Mount which He then spoke tp the priests and scribes. "the torah"


That Law is from a different covenant, a different priesthood, for a different people, filled with different promises, different instructions. Given for a different purpose. if you have really studied Hebrews, why is it so difficult for you to accept that the Old covenant, is not Ours to Keep ?

why is it Hard, to understand with no temple on Earth, the old covenant Law, is impossible to Keep? and with Our High priest in Heavens tabernacle, seated at Gods right Hand already giving us the law, already making for us the sacrifice, already filling us with the spirit of God to enable us to walk in the spirit, the gospel.

33But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, ​

I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. 34And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them,​

saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more."

if the law remains it is a constant reminder of our sin right beside Gods presence. it was broken by us, fulfilled By Jesus, and we have a better covenant.​

the law is what Jesus said, the spirit of truth without a veil I fear you are missing the greater promises and covenant try finding promises Like this in the law

2 corinthians 3 "Who also hath made us able ministers of the new testament; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life. ( john 6:63, john 14: 15-26, matthew 28:18-20....ect)

7But if the ministration of death,(Exodus 34:29-35) written and engraven in stones, was glorious, so that the children of Israel could not stedfastly behold the face of Moses for the glory of his countenance; which glory was to be done away: 8How shall not the ministration of the spirit be rather glorious? 9For if the ministration of condemnation be glory, much more doth the ministration of righteousness exceed in glory.

10For even that which was made glorious had no glory in this respect, by reason of the glory that excelleth. 11For if that which is done away was glorious, much more that which remaineth is glorious.

12Seeing then that we have such hope, we use great plainness of speech: 13And not as Moses, which put a vail over his face, that the children of Israel could not stedfastly look to the end of that which is abolished: 14But their minds were blinded: for until this day remaineth the same vail untaken away in the reading of the old testament; which vail is done away in Christ.

15But even unto this day, when Moses is read, the vail is upon their heart. 16Nevertheless when it shall turn to the Lord, the vail shall be taken away. 17Now the Lord is that Spirit: and where the Spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 18But we all, with open face beholding as in a glass the glory of the Lord, are changed into the same image from glory to glory, even as by the Spirit of the Lord."



realize that's basically blasphemous under the first covenant. But the promises of the Gospel, are exceedingly better.

 

[followjesus]

IMO,Its attributing evil to GOD.
But blasphemy done by someone thats angry at GOD and later when they aren’t angry,this type of blasphemy will be forgiven but a person blaspheming against the HOLY SPIRIT will not be forgiven IMO means that a person has decided finally that GOD Is not worthy and they REALLY feel this way IN their heart and a person that has REALLY gotten to the point where they really feels like this would not think anything about blaspheming GOD anyway because even though deep down they know there Is a GOD they won’t accept HIM no matter what anyone says.

There Is no help for this person.

mark 3 " Verily I say unto you, All sins shall be forgiven unto the sons of men, and blasphemies wherewith soever they shall blaspheme: 29But he that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgiveness, but is in danger of eternal damnation: >>>>>>>>30Because they said, He hath an unclean spirit.<<<<<


v 22 " And the scribes which came down from Jerusalem said, He hath Beelzebub, and by the prince of the devils casteth he out devils. <<<<<


they were attributing the work of Gods spirit, to the work of the prince of devils......

 

[Shamah]

oGod bless ya man, I think we used to have better dialogue, until I realized you are trying to combine 2 covnenants that don't go together.

I dont have time to post here like I used to, also I think it changed when we had a difference of view on another subjet in PMs, but I am ok, no issue here.


Do you believe the covenant made with Abraham is the same one ratified with the blood of Yahshua/Jesus?

Genesis 12:1-3, “And יהוה said to Aḇram, “Go yourself out of your land, from your relatives and from your father’s house, to a land which I show you. And I shall make you a great nation, and bless you and make your name great, and you shall be a blessing! And I shall bless those who bless you, and curse him who curses you. And in you all the clans of the earth shall be blessed.”


Isaiah 45:22-25, “Turn to Me and be saved, all you ends of the earth! For I am Mighty, and there is none else. I have sworn by Myself, a word has gone out of My mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, so that to Me every knee shall bow, every tongue swear. One shall say, ‘Only in יהוה do I have righteousness and strength’ – he comes to Him. And all those displeased with Him shall be put to shame. In יהוה all the seed of Yisra’yl shall be declared right and glory.”


Jeremiah 31:33, “For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Yisra’yl: After those days, says YHWH: I will put My Law (Torah/Instructions) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts, and I will be their Strength, and they will be My people.”


Romans 9:6-8, "However, it is not as though YHWH's plan had failed. For it is not everyone who is a descendant of Yisra’yl who belongs to Yisra’yl. Nor, just because they are his descendants, are they all Abraham's children; but: In Isaac will your seed be called. That is, it is not those who are the children of the flesh who are YHWH's children; but it is the children of the promise who are regarded as Abraham's seed."


Psalms 105:6-10, “O seed of Aḇraham His servant, Children of Ya‛aqoḇ, His chosen ones! He is יהוה our Strength; His right-rulings are in all the earth. He has remembered His covenant forever, The Word He commanded, for a thousand generations, The covenant He made with Aḇraham, And His oath to Yitsḥaq, And established it to Ya‛aqoḇ for a law, To Yisra’yl – an everlasting covenant.”


Exodus 2:23-25, “And it came to be after these many days that the sovereign of Mitsrayim died. And the children of Yisra’yl groaned because of the slavery, and they cried out. And their cry came up to the Mighty One because of the slavery. And the Mighty One heard their groaning, and the Mighty One remembered His covenant with Aḇraham, with Yitsḥaq, and with Ya‛aqoḇ. And the Mighty One looked on the children of Yisra’yl, and the Mighty One knew!”


Galatians 3:27-29, “For as many of you as were immersed into Messiah have put on Messiah. There is not Yehuḏi nor Greek, there is not slave nor free, there is not male and female, for you are all one in Messiah יהושע. And if you are of Messiah, then you are seed of Aḇraham, and heirs according to promise.”

3 words "chadash" "neos" "kainos" misunderstanding the meaning of words does not nullify what is written.

 

[FlyingDove]

Kingdom of God vs Kingdom of Heaven

Throughout scripture two kingdoms: physical & spiritual are revealed.

1 Corinthians 15:45 And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam (Jesus Christ) was made a quickening spirit
Adam physical, Christ Spiritual (1 Cor 15:45)
Cain physical, Abel spiritual
Ishmael physical, Isaac spiritual (See Gal 4:22-31)
Esau physical, Jacob spiritual
Israel physical, Body of Christ/Church spiritual

Jesus preached the Gospel of the kingdom, yet spoke about both. I found the reference to "Kingdom of Heaven" 31 times in Matt. I found reference to "Kingdom of God" 45 times in the 4 gospels.

If Jewish leadership had excepted their Messiah. They could have received both. And one day soon, they will again have the opportunity.

The Kingdom of God is SPIRITUAL! Not physical:
Lk 17:21 (B) Jesus said; Behold, "the kingdom of God is within you"
(NOTE: This is a spirit promise that began in Acts 2:4)

Mat 6:33 But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and his righteousness; and all these things shall be added unto you
(NOTE: Righteousness is abtained thru faith in Christ's sin atoning sacrifice & sealed by the indewlling Holy Spirit)

Mk 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
(NOTE: Turn to God & place your faith in His Christ)

Mk 4:26 And he said, So is the kingdom of God, as if a man should cast seed into the ground;
(NOTE: The sower is Christ (Lk 8:5), the seed is Gods Word (Lk 8:11) and the soil is our hearts Lk 8:15)

Lk 12:31 But rather seek ye the kingdom of God; and all these things shall be added unto you.

Lk 13:29 And they shall come from the east, and from the west, and from the north, and from the south, and shall sit down in the kingdom of God.

Jn 3:3 Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.
(NOTE: Born again = New spiritual birth)

Jn 3:5 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God.
(NOTE: Born of water/flesh first, then of spirit thru Faith. The need to be born of flesh 1st rules out salvation for fallen angels)

Rom 14:17 For the kingdom of God is not meat and drink; but righteousness, and peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost.
(The Holy Spirit is what? SPIRITUAL!)

1Cor 4:20 For the kingdom of God is not in word, but in power.
(NOTE: The Kingdom of God is NOT physical! It is spiritual in resurrection POWER)

Lk 17:21 (B) Jesus said; Behold, "the kingdom of God is within you"
(NOTE: The Kingdom of God": is SPIRITUAL: The Church = Christ in you: "The Body of Christ"!

The point in posting the following 4 verses is: In Revelation at the end of the physical Kingdom of Heaven there is a rebellion (Rev 20:8-9) No people like these ever make it into the SPIRITUAL Kingdom of God.

1 Co 6:9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,

1 Co 6:10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Co 15:50 Now this I say, brethren, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God; neither doth corruption inherit incorruption.

Gal 5:21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.

The Kingdom of Heaven is PHYSICAL! It is the fulfillment of Gods pomise to Abraham (Gen 12:2-3, 13:14, 15:17-18)

The physical land covenant God makes with Abraham & Israel is EVERLASTING:

God gives the exact boundaries of the promised land in Num 34:1-15 (also: Deut 1:8, Ex 2:24, Ex 6:4, 8 & Ps 105:8-11)

The Gospel of the Kingdom message begins with John the Baptist Matt 3:2-6 & Mk 1:4-5

After John's arrest, Jesus himself takes up the kingdon message. Matt 4:12-17

Matt 4:23 Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, "preaching the gospel of the kingdom"

The promised Kingdom reign of Christ could have begun, had the Jewish leadership accepted God's chosen Messiah. They rejected Messiah & had him killed. Gods promise of a physical King & phyical Kingdom will happen at Christs soon return.

Zech 9:14 & 15, 12:10–14, 13:1, Jer 30:18, 32:44, 33:11, 26, Joel 3:1, Amos 9:11–15, Rev 20:6.

The promised physical kingdom reign of Gods chosen Messiah was only postponed. Soon The King will return, set-up and physically rule from Jerusalem, An OT promise to Israel's Fathers/Abraham.

 

[Shamah]

okay what do the difference is those words have anything to do with the absolute fact that the covenant at horeb is done fulfilled completed ? bro it is impossible to obey Moses law, and the gospel at the same time. its not possible because they are different. you cant seem to accept that the new covenant is not according to what moses said. that's already fulfilled. I'm thinking you may read Hebrews and not accept the entire theme of the book. the old and the new.


The Old is done its finished it was always meant to bring Jesus into the World. its worthless to a Christian to obey Moses it would be disobeying Jesus to do so. because the gospel is for a new child of God, the law was for the condemned . I think that you need to separate what Moses wrote in the book of the law, and the ten commandments which is the covenant Law of God. the law of moses has no place over a Christian its dead weight it will only ever lead to Jesus. that's where it takes a person to the messiah.

it was the entire purpose of it. you need honestly to study what Jesus fulfilling the law and prophets actually means. its not something Jesus did, He is the fulfilment of what the Law of moses and the prophets had to say to mankind. I'm glad you understand the difference in those words, it doesn't change the fact that Christians have the new covenant and are not bound to God by the old. it actually separated them from God because they could not Keep it. I think you should definitely believe as you believe, but understand when you cannot part Moses and Jesus and the covenants. that then obligates you to keep every jot and tittle.


its going to be a conundrum to stone the sinners and also forgive them at the same tin. to turn the other cheek while repaying evil with evil you hit me I hit you now were square or you hit me, I turn the other cheek and forgive you and were square. 2 dofferent spirits because one came through a sinner and One came through the sinless. theres an aweful lot of things you need to obey if you are going to stick with the Mosaic Law. lot of sacrif9ices, ordinances, observances of days, weeks, the moon. need to definitely keep every Sabbath, not Just the One day a week Sabbath but all the ordinance God gave to the Israelites when He delivered them from Egypt......because that's the covenant you cant understand is not yours. there is no place in the law where someone observes parts and then others they don't. so first off you need to find a levite priest because He is the authoprity over you under the Mosaic Law. if you need forgiveness you need to take Him a spotless young lamb of goat so He can transfer your sin onto it and Kill it according to the Mosaic Law under rule of the Levitical preists.


then, you will need to see God as they did, commanding that you come nowhere near Him or yuou ill be put to death. you would have to then be willing to Learn who to stone to death for their sin, and who to excommunicate because of thiers, youll need 2 or 3 witnesses before you kill anyone tho. remember also, when your brother or son or friend sins a sin of death, you then are obligated to witness against them and take part in the justice .


you will need to learn all of the regulatins concerning mold care, cleansing of leperousy, and skin disease, you will need a vat to wash your hands in the tem-ple which doesn't exist anymore. you will need he proiests to do all of the daily duties in the temple which doesn't exist anyLonger. that's about 1 percent of what it would take to abide the law of Moses. of course none of its possible because there is no earthly tabernacle anymore, there is no earthly altar anymore where the acrifices were made for forgiveness. there is no anointing on the Levitical proiesthood anymore because it is all Jesus and the High priesthood of Melchezidek......... you should re read Hebrews and look at it like its explaining two covenants one that came through Moses and the prophets and the pther which came through Jesus His Son. and the old are the carnal commands that have no profit......


God bless ya man, I think we used to have better dialogue, until I realized you are trying to combine 2 covnenants that don't go together.

Also I want to add, you are re attributing or re addressing things we already taked about as if we never did and attaching them to me as error. SO I would say it is either misunderstanding or misrepresentation. But either way much of what you are saying we have already spoken about and you are improperly re issuing it as my error when I have already told you other wise. Honjestly I get this a lot from people who seek octrines mixed with Scripture and trqition rather than Scripture only, or those who seek the opinions of man rqather than Scripture 100% I used to be in the same place you are now, but I studied for years and came to the conclkusion I am at now. I dont know everything, still have much to learn, all I can say is keep reading, keep praying and accept what is written in the whole book not just the parts than fit you view.

 

[Shamah]

Psalm 89:26-37, “He will call out to Me; ‘You are My Father, O YHWH! You are the Rock of My salvation!’ And I will make Him My firstborn, higher than the kings of the earth. My mercy I will keep for Him forever and My covenant will stand fast with Him. And I will establish His Seed forever, and His throne will be as the days of heaven. Should His children forsake My Law, and refuse to walk in My judgments; Should they profane My statutes, and fail to keep My commandments; Then I will punish their transgression with the rod, and their iniquity with lashes from the whip. Nevertheless, My lovingkindness I will not utterly withdraw from Him, nor will I ever betray My faithfulness. My covenant I will not break, nor will I change what has gone out of My lips. Once for all, I have vowed by My holiness, I cannot lie, and I say to David; His Seed will endure forever, and his throne will endure before Me like the sun. His throne will be established forever like the moon: the faithful witness in the sky.”