"The Kingdom" vs "The Body Of Christ"

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rhern

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Matthew 4:17 (KJV)

17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.



1 Corinthians 12:27 (KJV)

27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
 
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cuz

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Matthew 4:17 (KJV)

17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.



1 Corinthians 12:27 (KJV)

27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
Matthew 21:43 "Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit
Luke 12:32 "Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has been pleased to give you the kingdom.

Matthew 21:43 talks about Israel
Luke 12:32 talks about the church age we are in now
Luke 21:24 And they shall fall on the edge of the sword, and shall be led captive into all nations, and Jerusalem shall be trodden under foot of the Gentiles, until the time of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
that time is at its end

body of Adam
what body was you apart of before Christ? where are you from ? Adam right
Adam had works as well as a fallen man to feed and cloth till the ground
Adam came from dirt and went back to dirt so this is the body of Adam

Body of Jesus
Jesus came from spirit
works was bring salvation to the world
give gifts as you see 1 Corinthians 12:27 gets into

a kingdom is a system like a government to protect and have order
the body seeks out people for Christ teaching preaching healing saving breaking bread fellowship

from what ive learned the two are not the same


blessings
 

rhern

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#3
Matthew 21:43 "Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit
Luke 12:32 "Do not be afraid, little flock, for your Father has been pleased to give you the kingdom.

Matthew 21:43 talks about Israel
Luke 12:32 talks about the church age we are in now
Luke 21:24 And they shall fall on the edge of the sword, and shall be led captive into all nations, and Jerusalem shall be trodden under foot of the Gentiles, until the time of the Gentiles be fulfilled.
that time is at its end

body of Adam
what body was you apart of before Christ? where are you from ? Adam right
Adam had works as well as a fallen man to feed and cloth till the ground
Adam came from dirt and went back to dirt so this is the body of Adam

Body of Jesus
Jesus came from spirit
works was bring salvation to the world
give gifts as you see 1 Corinthians 12:27 gets into

a kingdom is a system like a government to protect and have order
the body seeks out people for Christ teaching preaching healing saving breaking bread fellowship

from what ive learned the two are not the same


blessings
Jesus came to preach the Kingdom of which He will be King.

The sign at the above His Head on the cross said "King of the Jews"

Jesus lived to fulfill the promises made to the fathers of the Old Testament.
 

JaumeJ

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#4
Jesus came to preach the Kingdom of which He will be King.

The sign at the above His Head on the cross said "King of the Jews"

Jesus lived to fulfill the promises made to the fathers of the Old Testament.
It is imperative to know, all who believe Jesus-Yeshua are jews, those who are true and worship and praise God and those who say they are but are not. The latter are an assembly of Satan. Jew may be translated as a praiser of God.
 

p_rehbein

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Jesus came to preach the Kingdom of which He will be King.

The sign at the above His Head on the cross said "King of the Jews"

Jesus lived to fulfill the promises made to the fathers of the Old Testament.
The sign above his head was put there by the Romans as an insult.....

As well, WHY do you refer to JESUS in the PAST TENSE all the time?

HE LIVES!

JESUS CHRIST REIGNS! HE IS!

(goodness)
 

JaumeJ

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The Pharisees pleaded with Pilate not to put "King of the Jews," rather the "He said He was King of the Jews."
 

wattie

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Body of Christ in terms of comparison with the Kingdom would be a small c church.

A local body.. even though putting 'local'in front of the word body is a bit nonsensical.

Body of Christ is the church.

Church is an assembly of saved, baptized believers.

All believers will be one church one day.. But for now we have churches plural, with some believers not in a church.. not in a body of Christ.

See Matthew 18 plus the numerous mentions to churches at particular places.
 
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cuz

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Matthew 4:17 (KJV)

17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.



1 Corinthians 12:27 (KJV)

27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
ill try this again
Matthew 21:33 “Listen to another parable: There was a landowner who planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it, dug a winepress in it and built a watchtower. Then he rented the vineyard to some farmers and moved to another place.

Genesis 2:5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. kingdom (rented out to Israel )
Matthew 21:34 When the harvest time approached, he sent his servants to the tenants to collect his fruit.
(Body of christ)

Matthew 21:38 “But when the tenants saw the son, they said to each other, ‘This is the heir. Come, let’s kill him and take his inheritance.’ 39 So they took him and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him.
(cross of Christ)
40 “Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those tenants?”
41 “He will bring those wretches to a wretched end,” they replied, “and he will rent the vineyard to other tenants, who will give him his share of the crop at harvest time.
(Israel rejected kingdom rented to gentiles)

43 “Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit. 44 Anyone who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; anyone on whom it falls will be crushed.

we the body of Christ are to do
Matthew 21:34 When the harvest time approached, he sent his servants to the tenants to collect his fruit.

1 Corinthians 3:6-9 New International Version (NIV)
6 I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God has been making it grow. 7 So neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. 8 The one who plants and the one who waters have one purpose, and they will each be rewarded according to their own labor. 9 For we are co-workers in God’s service; you are God’s field, God’s building.

blessings
hope this helped
 

rhern

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The sign above his head was put there by the Romans as an insult.....

As well, WHY do you refer to JESUS in the PAST TENSE all the time?

HE LIVES!

JESUS CHRIST REIGNS! HE IS!

(goodness)
Yes, He sits at the right hand of the Father but He will Reign in the 1000 year Kingdom.

If He reigned now we would not have chaos all over the world.

but He had to first complete a mission which was to minister to the Jews

and to confirm the promises given in the Old Testament
 

rhern

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The Pharisees pleaded with Pilate not to put "King of the Jews," rather the "He said He was King of the Jews."

was Jesus not the King of the Jews.
 
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cuz

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Jesus came to preach the Kingdom of which He will be King.

The sign at the above His Head on the cross said "King of the Jews"

Jesus lived to fulfill the promises made to the fathers of the Old Testament.
that is still to come
Jesus is not here on earth
John 18:36 Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.
 

rhern

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ill try this again
Matthew 21:33 “Listen to another parable: There was a landowner who planted a vineyard. He put a wall around it, dug a winepress in it and built a watchtower. Then he rented the vineyard to some farmers and moved to another place.

Genesis 2:5 And every plant of the field before it was in the earth, and every herb of the field before it grew: for the Lord God had not caused it to rain upon the earth, and there was not a man to till the ground. kingdom (rented out to Israel )
Matthew 21:34 When the harvest time approached, he sent his servants to the tenants to collect his fruit.
(Body of christ)

Matthew 21:38 “But when the tenants saw the son, they said to each other, ‘This is the heir. Come, let’s kill him and take his inheritance.’ 39 So they took him and threw him out of the vineyard and killed him.
(cross of Christ)
40 “Therefore, when the owner of the vineyard comes, what will he do to those tenants?”
41 “He will bring those wretches to a wretched end,” they replied, “and he will rent the vineyard to other tenants, who will give him his share of the crop at harvest time.
(Israel rejected kingdom rented to gentiles)

43 “Therefore I tell you that the kingdom of God will be taken away from you and given to a people who will produce its fruit. 44 Anyone who falls on this stone will be broken to pieces; anyone on whom it falls will be crushed.

we the body of Christ are to do
Matthew 21:34 When the harvest time approached, he sent his servants to the tenants to collect his fruit.

1 Corinthians 3:6-9 New International Version (NIV)
6 I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God has been making it grow. 7 So neither the one who plants nor the one who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow. 8 The one who plants and the one who waters have one purpose, and they will each be rewarded according to their own labor. 9 For we are co-workers in God’s service; you are God’s field, God’s building.

blessings
hope this helped
I appreciate your post

The thousand year reign is what God promised the Jews. it is for the Jews.

Christians are the Body of Christ; they are saved; they are sealed.

this is not to be confuse with the promises made to the Jews.
 

rhern

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that is still to come
Jesus is not here on earth
John 18:36 Jesus said, "My kingdom is not of this world. If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place.
yes, you are correct

Jesus called this the regeneration

Matthew 19: (KJV)

27 Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?

28 And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
 
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Yes, He sits at the right hand of the Father but He will Reign in the 1000 year Kingdom.

If He reigned now we would not have chaos all over the world.

but He had to first complete a mission which was to minister to the Jews

and to confirm the promises given in the Old Testament

He is reigning amongst the chaos. The wrath of God being revealed daily .

The perfect order in our new incorruptible bodies is the new heavens and earth. The former chaotic order will not come to mind ever again .

It has nothing to do with the outward flesh of Jew. as if we did wrestles against the corrupted things of this world .(flesh and blood)

Jesus said of his own flesh it profits for zero. we know no man after the flesh .some did for a short window. The flesh of a Jew used in ceremonial laws as parables had come to a end, The time of reformation has come .Sola scriptura, the gospel is still doing it work of converting mankind.
 

rhern

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He is reigning amongst the chaos. The wrath of God being revealed daily .

The perfect order in our new incorruptible bodies is the new heavens and earth. The former chaotic order will not come to mind ever again .

It has nothing to do with the outward flesh of Jew. as if we did wrestles against the corrupted things of this world .(flesh and blood)

Jesus said of his own flesh it profits for zero. we know no man after the flesh .some did for a short window. The flesh of a Jew used in ceremonial laws as parables had come to a end, The time of reformation has come .Sola scriptura, the gospel is still doing it work of converting mankind.
what is God's plan

what are the sequence of events

please present scripture
 
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I appreciate your post

The thousand year reign is what God promised the Jews. it is for the Jews.

Christians are the Body of Christ; they are saved; they are sealed.

this is not to be confuse with the promises made to the Jews.
Same promise. . same one work of His faith or called labor of His love working in us to both will and do His good pleasure .

Its mankind under the influence of the god of this world that looks to divide what God calls one. or what God as a work of his faith calls one many the father of lies calls one. Turning things upside down. . . taking away the understanding of the Spirit we have in these bodies of death .

Acts 15:8-10 King James Version (KJV) And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. ...(Christs faith working in them) Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

The faith of Christ that does work in those who believe will endure to the end It is not "dead faith". It cannot work .
 

rhern

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Same promise. . same one work of His faith or called labor of His love working in us to both will and do His good pleasure .

Its mankind under the influence of the god of this world that looks to divide what God calls one. or what God as a work of his faith calls one many the father of lies calls one. Turning things upside down. . . taking away the understanding of the Spirit we have in these bodies of death .

Acts 15:8-10 King James Version (KJV) And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. ...(Christs faith working in them) Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?

The faith of Christ that does work in those who believe will endure to the end It is not "dead faith". It cannot work .
Did the Jews give up the Laws of Moses?

Did the Jews take up the cross?