The Little Horn of Daniel

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TMS

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Daniel chap 2 is a basic time line.
Babylon - Medo-Persia - Greece - Rome - Divided Europe - Stone from out of this world comes and destroys the world as we know it.

More info is given in Dan 7 & 8, the anti-christ will be the controlling force at the end. It is not an empire like Greece or Rome (concorded with the sword), it will be a force that will influence and seduce the empires of today to obey. watch the papacy, watch the pope. The image of the beast, is being set up.
 

Pilgrimshope

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#22
Daniel chap 2 is a basic time line.
Babylon - Medo-Persia - Greece - Rome - Divided Europe - Stone from out of this world comes and destroys the world as we know it.

More info is given in Dan 7 & 8, the anti-christ will be the controlling force at the end. It is not an empire like Greece or Rome (concorded with the sword), it will be a force that will influence and seduce the empires of today to obey. watch the papacy, watch the pope. The image of the beast, is being set up.
Yes this force

“And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

…And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:9, 12, 17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

which notice how the beast takes on the image of the dragon and is given his power and conquers the world

“And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:1-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Satan has authority in the world and gives it to men of power in the world to run down Creation until Christ returns but we have Christ in us now for a sanctuary

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭6:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬


this is just my own take for consideration however not the end all answers everyone needs to agree with
 

TMS

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Yes this force

“And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

…And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭12:9, 12, 17‬ ‭KJV‬‬

which notice how the beast takes on the image of the dragon and is given his power and conquers the world

“And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him?”
‭‭Revelation‬ ‭13:1-4‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Satan has authority in the world and gives it to men of power in the world to run down Creation until Christ returns but we have Christ in us now for a sanctuary

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.”
‭‭Ephesians‬ ‭6:12‬ ‭KJV‬‬


this is just my own take for consideration however not the end all answers everyone needs to agree with
All great verses - i agree, the devil is controlling the beast power of the end. By knowingly and even unknowingly worshiping the beast power people are worshiping the dragon.
The papacy already conquered the known world in the dark ages but received a deadly wound and is regaining its power each day but this time they are even smarter.

Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
 

Nehemiah6

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The papacy already conquered the known world in the dark ages but received a deadly wound and is regaining its power each day but this time they are even smarter.
The papacy is NOT the Antichrist. Revelation 13 clearly identifies him as a man which is backed up by Daniel.
 

TMS

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The papacy is NOT the Antichrist. Revelation 13 clearly identifies him as a man which is backed up by Daniel.
The pope is the head of the papacy, a man that claims to be God on earth.
 

Pilgrimshope

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All great verses - i agree, the devil is controlling the beast power of the end. By knowingly and even unknowingly worshiping the beast power people are worshiping the dragon.
The papacy already conquered the known world in the dark ages but received a deadly wound and is regaining its power each day but this time they are even smarter.

Mat 24:24 For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
amen agreeable for sure , I’ve noticed also that Islam is a major player late in the game possibly ( just my thought )

they behead Christians for having a Bible. Or preaching the gospel and even today the Dome of the rock sits upon the temple mound in Jerusalem where Gods temple Once stood.

in huge letters stop “the dome of the rock “ the Islamic mosque standing on the temple it is inscribed something like “ God absolutely has no son “ which to me there couldn’t be any more anti christ statement than that given his claim of being g the only begotten son of God

thanks for the patience and words you shared
 

Pilgrimshope

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The pope is the head of the papacy, a man that claims to be God on earth.
“And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭23:9‬ ‭
 

TMS

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The papacy is NOT the Antichrist. Revelation 13 clearly identifies him as a man which is backed up by Daniel.
The anti-christ is one or anything that claims to be God or claims to be able to do the thing that God alone has the right to.
There have been many anti-christs but the one at the end needs to fit all of the describing points in Daniel and Revelation (The bible).
 

TMS

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amen agreeable for sure , I’ve noticed also that Islam is a major player late in the game possibly ( just my thought )

they behead Christians for having a Bible. Or preaching the gospel and even today the Dome of the rock sits upon the temple mound in Jerusalem where Gods temple Once stood.

in huge letters stop “the dome of the rock “ the Islamic mosque standing on the temple it is inscribed something like “ God absolutely has no son “ which to me there couldn’t be any more anti christ statement than that given his claim of being g the only begotten son of God

thanks for the patience and words you shared
Yes it makes me sick how these groups blaspheme God.
I don't know how or what is next for mankind, but i know that before Jesus comes there will be a mark (666, i don't think it is literal), and the world must choose if it wants it. The Devil will appear as an angel (messenger, as a Christ) of light, and deceive the very elect.
How will all the world receive this mark or accept this message with so many religions? They need to have a common God and that means they need to take away the straight testimony of the bible.

I don't claim to know what will happen but i do know that Jesus overcame the Devil by knowing the scripture.

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.
 

Pilgrimshope

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Yes it makes me sick how these groups blaspheme God.
I don't know how or what is next for mankind, but i know that before Jesus comes there will be a mark (666, i don't think it is literal), and the world must choose if it wants it. The Devil will appear as an angel (messenger, as a Christ) of light, and deceive the very elect.
How will all the world receive this mark or accept this message with so many religions? They need to have a common God and that means they need to take away the straight testimony of the bible.

I don't claim to know what will happen but i do know that Jesus overcame the Devil by knowing the scripture.

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

I think just my own thought to be marked of the devil or beast is whether we serve his spirit or Gods

“In this the children of God are manifest, and the children of the devil: whosoever doeth not righteousness is not of God, neither he that loveth not his brother. For this is the message that ye heard from the beginning, that we should love one another.

Not as Cain, who was of that wicked one, and slew his brother. And wherefore slew he him? Because his own works were evil, and his brother's righteous.”
‭‭1 John‬ ‭3:10-12‬ ‭KJV‬‬

Cain received a mark and was selerated from Gods presence and became a castaway but myself also I don’t know for sure it seems like how we spend our lives and whether we serve the devils spirit in this world or repent and believe the gospel and walk in Christs spirit would be what ultimately marked us one way or the other

some think it’s a literal mark like a tattoo o here think it’s a chip of some sort , credit card number ect but I think for myself it’s probably a mark upon our soul that makes us either Gods child or satans child

If we serve the worldly things we’re welcomed by the worlds system but if we serve Gods kingdom it makes us outcast from the worldly system I see that growing in the earth now days .

if we agree with biblical principles the world is really changing against our morals and beliefs ( same sex marriage , transgender acceptance , all the tech and entertainment , over 1000 accepted and recognized religions that are expected to be acceptable ) just the whole fiber of the earth seems to be changing

I think it has to do with who’s do listen we are bearing the mark I mean

“Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.( Matthew 13:3-9)

He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man; The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom;

but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil;

the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.

As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;

And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.”
‭‭Matthew‬ ‭13:36-43‬ ‭KJV‬‬
 

ResidentAlien

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The RCC is Babylon the Great. The pope isn't anyone special other than as the head of the RCC.