The Lords Navy .

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Well-known member
Aug 4, 2020
The 'Lords Navy' is a pejorative associated with anyone that believes that Water ( ceremony ) is necessary for salvation. Such groups and Cults such as Roman Catholicism, Camberlites, Mormons , Jehovah’s witnesses. Now this extends to those who have a more subtle variation. Such as those that sneak ' obedience ' into the mix to confuse those new believers who don't know their bibles yet . What we hear is such things as " its the first step of obedience " .
One way or another this is Lordship / conditional / works / legalism creeping in . Any other teaching that baptism is more than a 'figure ' is preaching a subtle variation of the above . This immediately trips a new believer up , potentially sets him on a path to shipwreck his faith into legalism / Lordship salvation and into a form of the 'Galation error '
Of " Yes is by faith + "
I fell into this double bind as a new believer sadly . I believe its more dangerous than baptismal regeneration, because its more subtle and easy to fall for .
What's the big deal ? Well its another Gospel imo
Thoughts .

Some people who I used to respect who hold to this subtle teaching are the likes of David Pawsom and Derick Prince .
Thoughts ?


Senior Member
Feb 24, 2009
If in the process of salvation, a person HAS to be in effort to lessen their sins, then of course if their in sin in their life after salvation.. they would be told.. you were never saved in the first place.

Turning from sin becomes salvation rather than the sacrifice and payment from Christ