The rotten cancer of pornography?

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lil-rush

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#41
For the record, the US of A did not invent pornography, so I don't understand why we are being blamed for all the pornographic woes in the world. Educate yourself; there is plenty of pornography throughout history, and since the USA has only been around since the late 18th century it goes beyond ludicrous to try and pin us with the blame for pornography being popular. It was around long before we came into existence.

It is the moral degradation of the world in general that has made pornography more socially acceptable. Pornography may be more readily available in America, but that does not mean we are forcing others to look at it.

Like others have pointed out in this thread, our moral shortcomings are our own fault, and we need to own up to our sins; stop trying to lay the blame elsewhere. Whether you get your porn from the USA, Australia, NZ; whether your produce it or watch it; whether you act in it or sell it; it is your fault alone for the part you partake it in.
 
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Matthew

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#42
Who's fault does it come to regarding porn? Is it the flimers? People in it? People watching it? Or a combination of all? Even I'm not immune, it's some sick stuff but it appeals to the general male population it really doesn't matter. Bla blah blah (express your thoughts)
I think it's largely irrelevant who is too blame, the problem exists and largely due to the internet it's now completely out of control, it's easy to look at the current situation and say it's down to the USA as so much of it comes from there, but it is readily consumed in other countries and it's a pretty thin argument to say 'we just watch, we don't make'.......if you weren't watching they wouldn't be making so the easy answer is it's almost everyones fault, and unless you've never once looked at porn you can claim no innocence.

Add to that the porn industry is now closely linked to the trade of sex toys and all that stuff so that also helps to widen the context even further, but people shouldn't buy into the myth that the porn industry is supported by men alone, the majority for sure but plenty of women have an appetite for pornography.
 

Sharp

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#43
I blame Nicaragua.
 
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#44
I blame caligula... & france... I blame france. or maybe rome... yeah rome, lets blame rome. Howsabout satan? & its not just a mans problem... you ever read one of them true story magazines now thats porn too.
 
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NodMyHeadLikeYeah

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#45
I would personally like to blame my grandma. It's all her fault
 
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machew

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#46
I used to be a porn addict from my high school years to my third year of college, 1 year into being a Christian. I don't blame anyone else for my addiction. Blame shifting only breeds bitterness towards another party, which is not a healthy way of dealing with it. I found that the more I looked at it, the more it attracted the demonic around me, and the more power it had over me, because of my agreement with the enemy for it as an acceptable form of coping with my loneliness and inner pain. I didn't know that this was why I ran to porn at the time, but later found out as God showed me the huge hole in my heart. When I became a Christian and found out that it was not an acceptable way to cope with this, I found out how much power it had over me, I couldn't stop no matter what I did. I went through 8 months of day and night prayer, non-stop, "God help me! I don't wan't to do this anymore!." I felt ashamed of myself, and like I was the filth of his kingdom. After 8 months of crying out to God, when I felt like I just wanted to give up, God showed up in my room in power, and I fell to the floor sobbing in a fetal position all night long, as God told me:

"Matthew you are my precious son, I have never been disappointed in you, and you have brought my heart so much joy"

I thought to myself: "Is He talking about the same Matthew here?"

God: "Matthew, I have so enjoyed watching you these past few hours, you are the source of so much of my joy. You need to know that there is nothing you can do that can separate you from my Love for you and who you are."

I realized something that day. The reason I felt so trapped in it was because I believed that my sin still separated me from God, and made me feel like God was turning His face away from me. This was shame that the enemy put on me to convince me that I couldn't approach God. I found out through an encounter with God that this was not true. I kept hearing, "my blood was enough for you." But I also kept hearing that voice of guilt trying to get me focused back on everything that was wrong with me. Then I heard God say "Don't let yourself focus on what the accuser is saying to you, you are my son. The only thing you need to do is to be my son! That is who you are and nobody will take you away from me!"

How the enemy kept me trapped:
I found out that I had to take personal responsibility over what I allowed myself to focus on, and that the enemy only had power over me when I made an agreement with him. The way he kept me trapped was to tempt me, then put this fear on me of sinning so that I would feel powerless to do anything about it, then fall into sin, then he would accuse me of doing it over and over again to make the problem seem so big in my head. Later the enemy would continue to plant fear in me of doing it again. The enemy does this to give you the belief that you are trapped and can't do anything to get out of it.

A good definition of fear is: faith in a lie. The enemy keeps us trapped in sin by having us fear the sin we feel trapped in, then accusing us of doing it until shame is all over us and the problem is so big in our head that we fear it more. This was the endless cycle that I felt trapped in. God showed me all of this and what the enemy was doing in me and freed me from my addiction. To this day(about 6 years) I have been free from this addiction and live in the victory of Jesus in this area of my life.

I posted this in the hopes that it would help people on here that are struggling with this. There is victory in Christ over porn addictions, and the enemy is a liar. No blame should be shifted to other people. It is the enemy that tempts us, and our choice to give into it. If the enemy can convince you that you are powerless against his temptation, then you will fall into temptation. But if you realize that the enemy is just trying to intimidate you and is trying to convince you that you can't resist him, then you can realize there is nothing to fear and lift your sword and give the enemy a good wap on the head, "Get behind me satan!"

The easiest way to give into the enemy's temptations is to forget who you are as a son and daughter of God. When you don't remember who you are, and the authority that you carry as co-heirs with Christ, then you will believe the enemy's lies. You are all sons and daughters of the most High God!
 
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Thank you for this wonderful post!
 
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#48
God said do not put a stumbling block in the path of your brother.

For a nation that says they are a Christian nation and founded on Christianity they sure have a lot of stumbling blocks there that cater to the flesh.

Matt
 

phil36

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There is a good booklet, on porn and masturbation,It would be good to read it, then come back with a more knowledgeable basis and discuss porn! here are the chapter titles:

Introduction

Chapter 1
A Tall Glass of Toilet Water


Chapter 2
The Fear of the Lord


Chapter 3
A Theology of Pornographic Lust


Chapter 4
A Practical Theology of Pornographic Lust


Chapter 5
Masturbation


Practical and Theological Reasons to Not Masturbate

Practical and Theological Reasons to Masturbate

You can dowload or read it here: http://relit.org/porn_again_christian/toc.php
 
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lightbliss

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#50
God said do not put a stumbling block in the path of your brother.

For a nation that says they are a Christian nation and founded on Christianity they sure have a lot of stumbling blocks there that cater to the flesh.

Matt
Personally, I think that whole theory was flushed down the gutter (toilet?) some 35 years ago.
 
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glenwood74

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#51
I used to be a porn addict from my high school years to my third year of college, 1 year into being a Christian. I don't blame anyone else for my addiction. Blame shifting only breeds bitterness towards another party, which is not a healthy way of dealing with it. I found that the more I looked at it, the more it attracted the demonic around me, and the more power it had over me, because of my agreement with the enemy for it as an acceptable form of coping with my loneliness and inner pain. I didn't know that this was why I ran to porn at the time, but later found out as God showed me the huge hole in my heart. When I became a Christian and found out that it was not an acceptable way to cope with this, I found out how much power it had over me, I couldn't stop no matter what I did. I went through 8 months of day and night prayer, non-stop, "God help me! I don't wan't to do this anymore!." I felt ashamed of myself, and like I was the filth of his kingdom. After 8 months of crying out to God, when I felt like I just wanted to give up, God showed up in my room in power, and I fell to the floor sobbing in a fetal position all night long, as God told me:

"Matthew you are my precious son, I have never been disappointed in you, and you have brought my heart so much joy"

I thought to myself: "Is He talking about the same Matthew here?"

God: "Matthew, I have so enjoyed watching you these past few hours, you are the source of so much of my joy. You need to know that there is nothing you can do that can separate you from my Love for you and who you are."

I realized something that day. The reason I felt so trapped in it was because I believed that my sin still separated me from God, and made me feel like God was turning His face away from me. This was shame that the enemy put on me to convince me that I couldn't approach God. I found out through an encounter with God that this was not true. I kept hearing, "my blood was enough for you." But I also kept hearing that voice of guilt trying to get me focused back on everything that was wrong with me. Then I heard God say "Don't let yourself focus on what the accuser is saying to you, you are my son. The only thing you need to do is to be my son! That is who you are and nobody will take you away from me!"

How the enemy kept me trapped:
I found out that I had to take personal responsibility over what I allowed myself to focus on, and that the enemy only had power over me when I made an agreement with him. The way he kept me trapped was to tempt me, then put this fear on me of sinning so that I would feel powerless to do anything about it, then fall into sin, then he would accuse me of doing it over and over again to make the problem seem so big in my head. Later the enemy would continue to plant fear in me of doing it again. The enemy does this to give you the belief that you are trapped and can't do anything to get out of it.

A good definition of fear is: faith in a lie. The enemy keeps us trapped in sin by having us fear the sin we feel trapped in, then accusing us of doing it until shame is all over us and the problem is so big in our head that we fear it more. This was the endless cycle that I felt trapped in. God showed me all of this and what the enemy was doing in me and freed me from my addiction. To this day(about 6 years) I have been free from this addiction and live in the victory of Jesus in this area of my life.

I posted this in the hopes that it would help people on here that are struggling with this. There is victory in Christ over porn addictions, and the enemy is a liar. No blame should be shifted to other people. It is the enemy that tempts us, and our choice to give into it. If the enemy can convince you that you are powerless against his temptation, then you will fall into temptation. But if you realize that the enemy is just trying to intimidate you and is trying to convince you that you can't resist him, then you can realize there is nothing to fear and lift your sword and give the enemy a good wap on the head, "Get behind me satan!"

The easiest way to give into the enemy's temptations is to forget who you are as a son and daughter of God. When you don't remember who you are, and the authority that you carry as co-heirs with Christ, then you will believe the enemy's lies. You are all sons and daughters of the most High God!
Thank you for sharing this. You are definitely a man of God and an inspiration. May the Lord Jesus bless you more and more every day of your life! I pray the Father in heaven bless you with the Spirit of the Living Christ and that you will have joy and love in your life from this day hence. I was blessed by your testimony! Praise God for my brother Matthew Lord!!!!
 
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#52
I blame America. Last I knew, not allowed to produce porn films in Australia or NZ. It is illegal to rent or sell porn movies in australia. Why can't American just have some laws like that.
Because that would be censorship, and that has no place in a free and democratic society.
 
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calvina

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#53
how about we quit blaming certain groups of people :) I believe its something the devil has put in place to keep people's focus off God :)
yes i do agree.we can't blame people because the enemy is just using them to spread his devil deeds..as we all know,satan is roaming around...BLESSED IS THE MAN WHO STAND FIRM ON HIS FAITH....
 
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calvina

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#54
I used to be a porn addict from my high school years to my third year of college, 1 year into being a Christian. I don't blame anyone else for my addiction. Blame shifting only breeds bitterness towards another party, which is not a healthy way of dealing with it. I found that the more I looked at it, the more it attracted the demonic around me, and the more power it had over me, because of my agreement with the enemy for it as an acceptable form of coping with my loneliness and inner pain. I didn't know that this was why I ran to porn at the time, but later found out as God showed me the huge hole in my heart. When I became a Christian and found out that it was not an acceptable way to cope with this, I found out how much power it had over me, I couldn't stop no matter what I did. I went through 8 months of day and night prayer, non-stop, "God help me! I don't wan't to do this anymore!." I felt ashamed of myself, and like I was the filth of his kingdom. After 8 months of crying out to God, when I felt like I just wanted to give up, God showed up in my room in power, and I fell to the floor sobbing in a fetal position all night long, as God told me:

"Matthew you are my precious son, I have never been disappointed in you, and you have brought my heart so much joy"

I thought to myself: "Is He talking about the same Matthew here?"

God: "Matthew, I have so enjoyed watching you these past few hours, you are the source of so much of my joy. You need to know that there is nothing you can do that can separate you from my Love for you and who you are."

I realized something that day. The reason I felt so trapped in it was because I believed that my sin still separated me from God, and made me feel like God was turning His face away from me. This was shame that the enemy put on me to convince me that I couldn't approach God. I found out through an encounter with God that this was not true. I kept hearing, "my blood was enough for you." But I also kept hearing that voice of guilt trying to get me focused back on everything that was wrong with me. Then I heard God say "Don't let yourself focus on what the accuser is saying to you, you are my son. The only thing you need to do is to be my son! That is who you are and nobody will take you away from me!"

How the enemy kept me trapped:
I found out that I had to take personal responsibility over what I allowed myself to focus on, and that the enemy only had power over me when I made an agreement with him. The way he kept me trapped was to tempt me, then put this fear on me of sinning so that I would feel powerless to do anything about it, then fall into sin, then he would accuse me of doing it over and over again to make the problem seem so big in my head. Later the enemy would continue to plant fear in me of doing it again. The enemy does this to give you the belief that you are trapped and can't do anything to get out of it.

A good definition of fear is: faith in a lie. The enemy keeps us trapped in sin by having us fear the sin we feel trapped in, then accusing us of doing it until shame is all over us and the problem is so big in our head that we fear it more. This was the endless cycle that I felt trapped in. God showed me all of this and what the enemy was doing in me and freed me from my addiction. To this day(about 6 years) I have been free from this addiction and live in the victory of Jesus in this area of my life.

I posted this in the hopes that it would help people on here that are struggling with this. There is victory in Christ over porn addictions, and the enemy is a liar. No blame should be shifted to other people. It is the enemy that tempts us, and our choice to give into it. If the enemy can convince you that you are powerless against his temptation, then you will fall into temptation. But if you realize that the enemy is just trying to intimidate you and is trying to convince you that you can't resist him, then you can realize there is nothing to fear and lift your sword and give the enemy a good wap on the head, "Get behind me satan!"

The easiest way to give into the enemy's temptations is to forget who you are as a son and daughter of God. When you don't remember who you are, and the authority that you carry as co-heirs with Christ, then you will believe the enemy's lies. You are all sons and daughters of the most High God!
ITS A WONDERFUL TESTIMONY,GOD BLESS YOU!!