The Sabbath a systematic study.

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gotime

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So the Purpose is simple, Study it in order and only take facts that can be backed by scripture. So you start at the first mention of the Sabbath then take only things the immediate context and things said about the Sabbath and then move on adding to it as scripture allows. Let the bible speak for itself.

So here is the first mention, before we allow any other scripture to speak to it we must learn what we can from it and its contextual setting.

Gen 2:2 And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
Gen 2:3 And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

Lets see what we learn.
 
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Gen 2:4
This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made earth and heaven
 
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Which is greater? The account of creation of earth and the heavens, or the arrival (advent) of the Creator Jesus among men?

If there should be only one celebration of beginnings, why not celebrate the beginning of the Church, the body of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, Savior? So how do the first days of earth's creation exceed that of the arrival of the Creator Jesus to the salvation of mankind?

The first days of creation, coupled with the fall of Adam & Eve, present the need of subsequent chapters and books of scriptures. Those chapters lead to the eternal rest in the Savior Jesus Christ, built up throughout the Bible, identified in the New Testament books.
 

gotime

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Gen 2:4
This is the account of the heavens and the earth when they were created, in the day that the LORD God made earth and heaven
Good verse in what way do you think this informs the Sabbath?

It would seem the Sabbath is directly connected to the other 6 days of creation. This verse seems to put them together.
 

Joidevivre

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So why am I studying this? Every day is the Sabbath to me. I have entered into that Sabbath rest that is only found in Christ. Read Hebrews. I am in a church atmosphere worshiping all the time.

The Sabbath now only means in a practical way that I take a day off from business for my physical and mental rest.
 
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BeyondET

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Well your thread topic and posting two verses in order seem to imply too continue in systematic order. I just added one verse sorry

on the seventh day God ended his work blessed and sanctified his work he created which he had made... Explains sabbath rest on the seventh. before the seventh day the heavens and earth and heaven and the earth looking at 2:4 there is a plural and singular mentioning now it didn't say how many days before the seventh in those three verses, that's mentioned earlier in Genesis. Though at the end if verse 2:4 says in the day singular, so I ask you want do you think this singular day means??

The two verses go with 2:4, a Account yet not full in complete description.. If that made any logic.
 

gotime

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Well your thread topic and posting two verses in order seem to imply too continue in systematic order. I just added one verse sorry

on the seventh day God ended his work blessed and sanctified his work he created which he had made... Explains sabbath rest on the seventh. before the seventh day the heavens and earth and heaven and the earth looking at 2:4 there is a plural and singular mentioning now it didn't say how many days before the seventh in those three verses, that's mentioned earlier in Genesis. Though at the end if verse 2:4 says in the day singular, so I ask you want do you think this singular day means??

The two verses go with 2:4, a Account yet not full in complete description.. If that made any logic.
All Good.

The word used there has multiple meanings depending on context it would seem. But the saying can mean a literal 24 hour period or a period of time.

In this case context must tell us. There is no numeric attached to it so it opens it up for a period of time rather than an actual 24 hour period. Plus it is speaking in the same terms as verse 1, meaning it is spanning the whole period of creation. So day in this case would be the whole 7 days that have come before.

The Tanakh translates it this way.

4, Such is the story of heaven and earth when they were created. When the Lord God made earth and heaven...

Not sure if that is what you were getting at or not.
 

gotime

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Question, Contextually we know and would all agree that the first six days were days of creation. But what were those things that He created for, eg plants, water, animals etc?

The answer seems to be seen here:

Gen 1:28 And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
Gen 1:29 And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
Gen 1:30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
Gen 1:31 And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.

Notice it was not very good until God made Man to rule over all that he Created.

First God makes heaven and earth and light. Then He makes land and atmosphere Then He makes plants etc.

Then He fills the heavens with stars etc. Then he fills the water and atmosphere with birds and fish. Then he fills the land with animals who eat the plants.

See the pattern here. Space then fills it with things that need that space. But Man is made last as far as creation Goes on the 6th day and God gives it all to them.

So with this context in mind, who or what is the Seventh day blessed for? God did not just rest, He blessed it and set it apart for holy use/sanctified it.

So who was to use it for holy purposes? Who is it for?

If the context is followed then it can not be for God. but for the Man. thoughts?
 

gotime

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Another though that comes to mind if we follow the creation pattern, Space then fill. The Seventh day is space, but not physical but space in time. What then fills the Sabbath? any Ideas.
 

gotime

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And Yet another thought, sorry many things going through me head to explore.

The 7th day is already different in that God does not create but rather ceases creating. So it is different form the other 6 days. Notice though that He sanctifies it. This means to set it apart for holy use.

God has already ceased so what Holy Use is it set apart for and who is it set apart for or what? thoughts?

Oh yeah and what is it set apart from? If one says creation that seems redundant as before he rests it is stated that he is finished in verse 1. thoughts?
 
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And Yet another thought, sorry many things going through me head to explore.

The 7th day is already different in that God does not create but rather ceases creating. So it is different form the other 6 days. Notice though that He sanctifies it. This means to set it apart for holy use.

God has already ceased so what Holy Use is it set apart for and who is it set apart for or what? thoughts?

Oh yeah and what is it set apart from? If one says creation that seems redundant as before he rests it is stated that he is finished in verse 1. thoughts?
Good things your exploring for sure, in my opinion set can mean rest, how come the 8th day and on on wasn't mentioned?
 

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On the seventh day He MADE THE SABBATH!

But the Sabbath was made, not by work, but by rest. What He ended on the seventh day
was the work of creation—that which was created by work!

On the seventh day He rested! He created the Sabbath by resting in that day.

Was He so fatigued He was forced to stop and rest?
Positively not, for God “fainteth not, neither is weary”! (Isaiah 40:28).

Yet, this was a real rest, because in Exodus 31:17 it is written: “… in six days
the Lord [Christ] made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested,
and [was refreshed].” Since He was “refreshed” by this rest, it was a real rest.

Yet He was not tired or weary! Why did He rest? To put His divine presence in that day!
He made the Sabbath day by resting, whereas He had made all other things by working!

He also“blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it” “set apart, for holy use or purpose.”
He set apart this day from other days—set it apart for holy use—for a day of physical
rest, in which His people may assemble and worship God!


But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes,
and they despised my judgments, which [if a man do], he [God] shall even [live in them]; a person

-so this says if someone keeps his Sabbaths, God would live in them.


Therefore what God did—and God did it by Christ—
was to make future TIME holy!

No man has power to make anything holy. God alone is holy—or whatever God has
made holy! No group or organization of men has authority to make future time holy!

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“Moses! Moses!” called God, “… put off thy shoes from off thy feet,
for the place whereon thou standest is HOLY GROUND” (Exodus 3:2-5).


God’s very presence was in that ground! God is holy !
God’s presence in that bush made the ground around it holy!

In the very same manner, God’s presence is in His Sabbath.
He rested on that first Sabbath to put His presence in that day!

This made it holy time! Four thousand years later, when this same “Logos,” or “Word,”
was made flesh—when He came as Jesus Christ in the human flesh—


He was still putting His presence in that same weekly recurring Sabbath—
He went into the synagogues as His custom was!
 
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Joidevivre

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But ProveAll, I thought God's presence was in ME now. All the fullness of God as the scriptures say.
 

gotime

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Good things your exploring for sure, in my opinion set can mean rest, how come the 8th day and on on wasn't mentioned?
Also a good question, I like this really trying to gain all we can form this. I find it interesting that we to this day have a 7 day week. There seems to be no logic behind it unless you take into account the biblical creation.

Could it be that God working 6 days and then resting on the 7th was a pattern and example for humanity to follow?
 

gotime

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On the seventh day He MADE THE SABBATH!

But the Sabbath was made, not by work, but by rest. What He ended on the seventh day
was the work of creation—that which was created by work!

On the seventh day He rested! He created the Sabbath by resting in that day.

Was He so fatigued He was forced to stop and rest?
Positively not, for God “fainteth not, neither is weary”! (Isaiah 40:28).

Yet, this was a real rest, because in Exodus 31:17 it is written: “… in six days
the Lord [Christ] made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested,
and [was refreshed].” Since He was “refreshed” by this rest, it was a real rest.

Yet He was not tired or weary! Why did He rest? To put His divine presence in that day!
He made the Sabbath day by resting, whereas He had made all other things by working!

He also“blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it” “set apart, for holy use or purpose.”
He set apart this day from other days—set it apart for holy use—for a day of physical
rest, in which His people may assemble and worship God!


But the house of Israel rebelled against me in the wilderness: they walked not in my statutes,
and they despised my judgments, which [if a man do], he [God] shall even [live in them]; a person

-so this says if someone keeps his Sabbaths, God would live in them.


Therefore what God did—and God did it by Christ—
was to make future TIME holy!

No man has power to make anything holy. God alone is holy—or whatever God has
made holy! No group or organization of men has authority to make future time holy!

-

“Moses! Moses!” called God, “… put off thy shoes from off thy feet,
for the place whereon thou standest is HOLY GROUND” (Exodus 3:2-5).


God’s very presence was in that ground! God is holy !
God’s presence in that bush made the ground around it holy!

In the very same manner, God’s presence is in His Sabbath.
He rested on that first Sabbath to put His presence in that day!

This made it holy time! Four thousand years later, when this same “Logos,” or “Word,”
was made flesh—when He came as Jesus Christ in the human flesh—


He was still putting His presence in that same weekly recurring Sabbath—
He went into the synagogues as His custom was!

This is some good stuff. I like that the scripture you brought in related to the one we are exploring:

Exo 31:13 Speak thou also unto the children of Israel, saying, Verily my sabbaths ye shall keep: for it is a sign between me and you throughout your generations; that ye may know that I am the LORD that doth sanctify you.
Exo 31:14 Ye shall keep the sabbath therefore; for it is holy unto you: every one that defileth it shall surely be put to death: for whosoever doeth any work therein, that soul shall be cut off from among his people.
Exo 31:15 Six days may work be done; but in the seventh is the sabbath of rest, holy to the LORD: whosoever doeth any work in the sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death.
Exo 31:16 Wherefore the children of Israel shall keep the sabbath, to observe the sabbath throughout their generations, for a perpetual covenant.
Exo 31:17 It is a sign between me and the children of Israel for ever: for in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, and on the seventh day he rested, and was refreshed.

As you have pointed out this scripture really sets in the reason for the Sabbath being a sign. It also indicates that what God did in creation was set as an example for humanity to follow.

This further makes sense when one takes into account that God on the 7th day Sanctified it. meaning as I am sure you know, He set it apart for holy use. Now God had already rested/ceased it stands to reason that this setting apart for holy use is for future use.

It also teaches something about the nature of creation, It was not 6 or 7 periods of time but 6 literal days is suggested hear. This is also the same for the commandment itself which finds its root in creation:

Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy. Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou shalt not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates:
Exo 20:11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the sabbath day, and hallowed it.


The same reason is given here for the Sabbath to be remembered, It is a pattern that follows God's example and is a reminder that it was made holy by God and set a part for holy use. and it states that the time period we are asked to follow is the same time period God used to create.

Great post, some good insights.
 

gotime

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So here are some questions that arise out of this.

We can see that the creation was 6 literal days and the 7th follow the pattern also.

We can see that when Israel was to keep the Sabbath it was rooted in that Creation and the example of God.

We can see that God set it apart for holy use for future.

So it stands to logic that the Sabbath then was not just for Jews but would have been kept before this point.

But is there any evidence or anything that would point to this reality?

I would suggest that what has been stated and seen so far does suggest that very thing but is there more.


A thought to remember. Moses wrote the first five books, it is not a complete history, but it all is law and instruction from Gen to Deut.

This is important to remember for a number of reasons. Moses wrote the creation account and he wrote why God gave Israel the Sabbath as a sign, there is no doubt that they link. I know from a Jewish perspective the Sabbath began at creation and ran though all who followed God to Moses. By oral hand down form God to Adam and following down.

This is important to understand Moses wrote all five books, Because a topic was not fleshed out in one section it is fleshed out over the entire 5 books. Thus to know the beginning one must also learn from what took place in the time of Moses. They inform each other.

This suggests very strongly That to understand the reasons God blessed and made the Sabbath for holy use are explained within th efive books somewhere. Thus what is given to Israel is not Just the reason for the Sabbath to them alone but is actually the reason for the Sabbath from its very blessing and setting apart. It only speaks of Israel because that is who it was being re-established with at the time Moses recorded it.

This would explain why older commentators as well as the Jews saw the Sabbath as a weekly institution to all who followed God form Creation onward.
 
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Also a good question, I like this really trying to gain all we can form this. I find it interesting that we to this day have a 7 day week. There seems to be no logic behind it unless you take into account the biblical creation.

Could it be that God working 6 days and then resting on the 7th was a pattern and example for humanity to follow?
thats a great view I agree a example, if I think on work daily living etc. if a person works seven days a week for years and years the person will become tired physically mentally without rest that's a logical understanding of the human body needing rest not only from day to day nightly sleep/rest but on a weekly bases of rest also. if a person goes many days without sleep they will go bonkers surely not healthy thing to do. I mentioned why not a 8th day in my view all days are infinite with God, would there be a reason for explaining beyond seven days probably not God knows what is best for us because he created man and set a seven day week by earth movements and creating signs in the heavens for man to know it and rest thus a day of rest the seventh. God set the days as we know them for our well being and good health and we should value that day the day of rest. some people may not be able every sabbath day to go to church but one can take a moment from their work and simply say thank you for this day.
 
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The Sabbath oh the Sabbath how we worship you. If we do not keep you oh Sabbath we are condemned. Oh Sabbath forgive me for I have sinned against you. I was sick and did not honor your most Holy day. Please Sabbath forgive me that I may once again bring praise to your day.
 
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Oh Sabbath how I nestled you and you tickle my flesh. My mouth is full of song oh Sabbath, I rejoice in your day. You make my heart filled with joy and I testify for oh Sabbath. If only everyone would know the joy of keeping you. Therefore I will strike down those who oppose you and destroy their tents. For they are wicked and worthy of death. Oh Sabbath tickle my ears and please my flesh that I may love you.
 

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The sarcasm is strong with this one...