The second coming of Jesus

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Rev 21:3 And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.


Zech 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.

Rev 19:11ff

Once Jesus returns, there is no record of Him returning to heaven again. He will rule this world from Jerusalem for 1,000 years (Rev 20:4ff), and then comes the new heaven and new earth, where New Jerusalem will be on that new earth.


You're a stuffed shirt.

Jesus Christ has not returned yet. You'll know it when He does.

WHATEVER YOU SAY....
 

soberxp

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44 Therefore* be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
 
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44 Therefore* be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
45 Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
46 Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
47 Verily I say unto you, That he shall make him ruler over all his goods.
48 But and if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord delayeth his coming;
49 And shall begin to smite his fellowservants, and to eat and drink with the drunken;
50 The lord of that servant shall come in a day when he looketh not for him, and in an hour that he is not aware of,
51 And shall cut him asunder, and appoint him his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
OUT OF CONTEXT MY FRIEND. Jesus was referring to the end of the age of the old covenant.
 

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https://rumble.com/v1x0xqc-deny-or-die-11252022.html

Deny or Die 11/25/2022

This is the heart of where all eschatological debates over pre trib or mid trib or post trib miss the boat.

To me there will be Christians who are here during the tribulation, whether or not there has been a pre trib rapture and they will be hunted down and forced to take the mark or else be beheaded. Now is the time to settle it in your heart that you will not take that mark.
 

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For some he will come as a thief in the night

But for you who fear my name the sun of righteousness shall rise, with healing in its wings. You shall go forth leaping like calves from the stall.

People who know that Jesus has come in the day.
People who don't know that Jesus has come in the night.

So it is "sun of righteousness" not son of righteousness.

https://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/sun-of-righteousness.214550/
 

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The second coming is a man made term to announce the Lord's coming at the end of the Tribulation. I see the rapture at a different time so should we call that the third coming?
 

GRACE_ambassador

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The second coming is a man made term to announce the Lord's coming at the end of the Tribulation. I see the rapture at a different time so should we call that the third coming?
Precious friend, how about:

Prophecy = 2 [ prophesied ] "Comings all the way ''to the earth'"

Correct, Different 'time':
Mystery = 1 [ secret ] Coming "in the air" to gather us to Heaven.

Total = 3?

Amen.
 

ewq1938

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The second coming is a man made term to announce the Lord's coming at the end of the Tribulation.

It's not man made. It's based on this scripture:

Heb_9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
 

Omegatime

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It's not man made. It's based on this scripture:

Heb_9:28 So Christ was once offered to bear the sins of many; and unto them that look for him shall he appear the second time without sin unto salvation.
I see that as the rapture/resurrection that comes before he returns at end of the Tribulation
 

ewq1938

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I see that as the rapture/resurrection that comes before he returns at end of the Tribulation

Those events happen after the trib has ended. Second coming, resurrection and rapture happen in that order within moments of each other. Remember that scripture speaks of only one second coming, or one more coming left. In the OD he also spoke of his coming and a gathering of the saints which is another way to speak of the rapture.
 

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Those events happen after the trib has ended. Second coming, resurrection and rapture happen in that order within moments of each other.
No they do not. The Resurrection/Rapture precedes the Second Coming by at least seven years, There is no Scripture to support your sequence.
 

ewq1938

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No they do not. The Resurrection/Rapture precedes the Second Coming by at least seven years, There is no Scripture to support your sequence.

False.

1Th 4:13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
1Th 4:14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.(second coming reference)
1Th 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord (second coming reference) shall not prevent them which are asleep.
1Th 4:16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven (second coming reference) with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: (the resurrection of the dead in Christ)
1Th 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. (the rapture)

Here we see the second coming mentioned 3 times, then the resurrection and then the rapture. This proves the rapture is connected to the second coming. All that needs to be proven is when the second coming happens to know when the rapture happens.