The Sixteen Grandsons of Noah

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presidente

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This part seems a bit weak:
"Ancient Armenia reached into Turkey. The name Turkey probably comes from Togarmah. "

The Turks were some kind of Asiatic people, originally, that came down from the Steppes. The king had babies with a haram full of European and middle eastern people and I guess others intermarried as well and they started to look more like the surrounding peoples over time.

Would they be closely related to the Armenians? Would their name be from the Armenian ancestor's name?

Madai being the ancestor of the Medes and Persians. Is this a folk etymology explanation. Sanskrit, Old Persion, Greek, Latin, Slavic Languages, Germanic Languages, Armenian and Celtic Languages and many other languages, following certain rules of linguistic logic, appear to have descended from a language historical linguists call Proto-Indoeuropean. I suppose it is possible that God gave different groups similar-sounding dialects, or he may have given fewer languages and let nature take it's course.


"Ancient Armenia reached into Turkey. The name Turkey probably comes from Togarmah. "

No, superficial similarity of words does not mean it is obvious.

The website says,
"The people who initially settled around the area of Troy worshipped Jupiter under the name of Jupiter Dodonaeus, possibly a reference to the fourth son of Javan, with Jupiter a derivative of Japheth. "

Etymology online dot come disagrees, offering this derivation for Jupiter:
"also Juppiter, c. 1200, "supreme deity of the ancient Romans," from Latin Iupeter, Iupiter, Iuppiter, "Jove, god of the sky and chief of the gods," from PIE *dyeu-peter- "god-father" (originally vocative, "the name naturally occurring most frequently in invocations" [Tucker]), from *deiw-os "god" (from root *dyeu- "to shine," in derivatives "sky, heaven, god") + peter "father" in the sense of "male head of a household" (see father (n.))."

 

JaumeJ

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Turkey is named for Mustafa Ataturk who reformed the government of what is now named for him, Turkey.

He also changed their alphabet to the western alphabet………...
 

presidente

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Turkey is named for Mustafa Ataturk who reformed the government of what is now named for him, Turkey.

He also changed their alphabet to the western alphabet………...
Don't you think the country name has anything to do with the Turks living there? I read that the word was attested to in Chaucer in the 1300's, way before Ataturk in the 1800s.
 

JaumeJ

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The people are called Turks after the new name of the country, named for AtaTURK, Mustafa Ataturk. I respond only because I am taking your question as in earnest.
 

presidente

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I have read the word 'Turkey' for that country has been in use since the 1300s.
 

JaumeJ

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Read more and you will learn why……….Stop feigning you do not understand what I have posted-

What next, will you say America is named such because Americans live there instead of giving credit to the cartographer, Americus Vespucci? I do believe you are playing a perverse game here….
 

Nehemiah6

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Turkey is named for Mustafa Ataturk who reformed the government of what is now named for him, Turkey.
Now all they need is a good old American Thanksgiving with turkey dinners.

BTW whatever good Atatruk may have accomplished, Erdogan has totally destroyed with his radical Islamist ideology. He wants to revive the Ottoman Empire, with himself as emperor. And he has been getting away with it.