The Tares

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Jan 31, 2009
If you were converted you weren't a tare in the first place you were an unsaved ignorant person and lost sheep who God saved. If you were a tare you are basically saying your end is to be burnt. That's all tares are good for they're like weeds and weeds can't be turned into wheat.
you didn't get my point at all, it must have flew right over your head, with God all things are possible, for God can turn a tare into wheat

all have sinned, (all are evil) and come short of the Glory of God, you could convince me of a universal salvation or a universal ****ation before you will convince Me that God is a respect of persons.

2ti 2:10Therefore I endure all things for the elect's sakes, that they may also obtain the salvation which is in Christ Jesus with eternal glory.

my end was to be burnt til Christ came into my Life. Praise the Lord thank you, Jesus!!!!!

a wild branch bears bad fruit til it is grafted into the Good tree.
Jan 8, 2009
You weren't a devil's child before you became a Christian or were you?
Mar 11, 2009
There are innocents who are under the power of darkness but not of their own fault. These Jesus came to bring into the light. There are also wilfull agents of satan who are deliberately working for the devil and are the devil's children. Find one verse where Jesus called someone not yet saved, but not exactly opposed to him either, a "devil's child".

Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.
Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.

For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it.
For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then he shall reward every man according to his works.

Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness?

Love a friend in God
Sep 27, 2009
I am new to this website and only now discovered this thread. I haven’t read all the posts but wanted to offer an opinion. I think there is a certain amount of social climbing in churches, which can be very demoralizing. When it gets too painful, you just have to complain. As long as you don’t make a habit of complaining, the church will respect you for having the courage to complain to the big shots.



"We need a new plan!" Satan cried, fire darting from his flashing eyes. "Two hundred years we've waged this war, only to be worse off than before. What does the problem seem to be? We smite one, they rise up three? We must tailor-make a plan suited to the weakness of man."
"Ah yes! If I can't destroy it I will pervert it! I will seduce this family God loves so dear!" Satan scoffed, while grasping his hands in disdain as if he were crushing them in his very palms. "I will plan their compromise. Remember Samson. The battle is as good as won!"

"I will create a counterfeit, a Church to my own liking. We will appeal to man's ambition, his perverted desire to rule. Diotrephes, if you please, had it right after all. I will offer them kingdoms, and entice them with riches; they will usurp the very throne of Christ himself. And all this will be done in the name of God and righteousness. I love it!" Satan shouted, as the hideous groans and sneers of the hordes of hell reverberated through the abyss.
"'The greatest among you shall be a servant.' Ha! I'll make these servants into kings and their servanthood into tyranny. And for my masterstroke, these pagan temples that I have built will be their new home. I see it all so clearly now! They will sit in rows, silent, yes, silent at last. Those who turned my world upside-down will sit silently, in rows, entertained. How I have wished it!
"Ah, what greater pain could I inflict upon the creator, than for him to see his children wrapped in chains, worshiping in my temples, surrounded by my idols and led by my pontiff kings."
"'You shall have no other gods before me.' Ha!" Satan scoffed. "We will see about that! Greater deceptions than these shall I weave. I'll surround them with the trappings of idolatry and then when they are worshiping, in part they'll worship me!"
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