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KD

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Wondering if anyone can shed some light on this topic.

I recently noticed in John 1:1 different Greek translations for the word God. The word was with God(ho Theos) the word was God(Theos)

This prompted me to dig a bit deeper

I see that ho or ton in Greek translate to the. And this usage ho Theos is often used when the passage is speaking of God the Father.

However I have found several passages where the word God is clearly speaking of the Father but the Greek is Theos w/o ho.
Eph 1:17, Rom 15:6, John 20:17 to name a few.

Any further insight would be great
 

JaumeJ

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The Word for God from the writings is Elohim, Elohanu, Yeshua, Yahweh, Ruach Chodesh.

The writings have come to be known as the Tanakh comprised of the Five Books acredited to Moses, the added Prophets and the Writings.

For hundreds of years the writings were the source of knowledge in text of Jesus Christ and the end times.. Later the Gospels and the Book, Revelation were added.

If you wish to know a gentile version of God, this is all yo will ever know……...

Jesus teaches the faith of Abraham in His Good News to all.
 

Nehemiah6

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I see that ho or ton in Greek translate to the. And this usage ho Theos is often used when the passage is speaking of God the Father.
Theos is generally used for God the Father in the NT, and occasionally for Jesus, who is God the Word.
 
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The definite article translated "the" points to what is known and lest we forget...at the time the bible was written and even now the world is full of "gods"......so as applied unto "the one true" God it points to the fact that there is but one....THE GOD and not A GOD!
 

oldhermit

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Wondering if anyone can shed some light on this topic.

I recently noticed in John 1:1 different Greek translations for the word God. The word was with God(ho Theos) the word was God(Theos)

This prompted me to dig a bit deeper

I see that ho or ton in Greek translate to the. And this usage ho Theos is often used when the passage is speaking of God the Father.

However I have found several passages where the word God is clearly speaking of the Father but the Greek is Theos w/o ho.
Eph 1:17, Rom 15:6, John 20:17 to name a few.

Any further insight would be great
New Testament Greek normally drops the article in a prepositional phrase so the absence of the article in a prepositional phrase is normal and doesn't mean anything. It is when we find examples such as John 1:1 were the article is included in a prepositional phrase that is unusual and should therefore grab our attention. It is the inclusion of the article that is significant. For example, the prepositional phrase “εν αρχη” (in the beginning) does not contain an article in the Greek, but is still properly translated “in the beginning.” The prepositional phrase “προς τον θεον” (with God) however, does include the definite article (τον). Since it was proper NOT to include it, the inclusion here means something. Generally speaking, the inclusion of an article when one is not expected means the writer are being specific, in this case a particular individual who is God.
 

KD

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Thank you all for the feedback