Evidently you are confused.
Cameron143 said:
But I disagree that his motivation was selfless in partaking of the fruit.
Cameron143 said:
But I disagree that his motivation was selfless in partaking of the fruit.
There will be no Rapture!!!
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The operative, spiritual judgment of Adam and Eve was that they were “one flesh”. This superseded the physical evidence that they were two separate people.
Because of this, that God saw them as “one flesh”, had Adam not eaten the fruit he would have redeemed Eve by his faithfulness to God. God, by His own judgment, could not have removed Eve and kept Adam whole. By remaining true to God Adam would have become the Lord of all.
Because of this, that God saw them as “one flesh”, had Adam not eaten the fruit he would have redeemed Eve by his faithfulness to God. God, by His own judgment, could not have removed Eve and kept Adam whole. By remaining true to God Adam would have become the Lord of all.
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before Adam sinned, there was no death in him, because death only enters through sin.
so Adam did have eternal life - it wasn't something he had to 'attain' - but something he lost when he added death to himself by sin.
Romans 5:12
Therefore, just as through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men, because all sinned
this isn't the same as the eternal life given to him, and to us through Christ, because we now have sin atoned for.Adam had life without sin, and the freedom to reject it. after he sinned, we all have death with sin, and the freedom to receive life through the promise of God, the finished redemptive work of the Son.
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if i warn you that this is poison, are you under a law against drinking it?
the apostle wrote saying 'be careful you don't bite and devour each other, or you will be consumed by each other!' - but we aren't under the law, or a covenant of works.
in any case God having warned Adam was prohibitive, not proscriptive. there wasn't anything he had to 'do' to have life - he was created with it: there was something he could choose to do, to have death. in this sense Adam was nothing like those under Moses.
the apostle wrote saying 'be careful you don't bite and devour each other, or you will be consumed by each other!' - but we aren't under the law, or a covenant of works.
in any case God having warned Adam was prohibitive, not proscriptive. there wasn't anything he had to 'do' to have life - he was created with it: there was something he could choose to do, to have death. in this sense Adam was nothing like those under Moses.
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