THree part word for today: # 3 Worship Leaders dressing like hookers & drunks

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[FONT=&quot]I was minding my own business winning gang members, addicts, and college students to Christ. I loved my life. There was no way I wanted to get in this fray. God ordered me to warn the churches of impending disaster. It meant rebuking their violations of scripture, rampant immorality, and political heresy.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]No way I wanted to do this. That’s why the life of Amos the prophet was a comfort to me. He said “I’m not a prophet nor the son of a prophet.” He was content in what he was doing. He was a successful herdsman. He was from Judah and the sins of a separate Kingdom didn’t matter to him.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]He didn’t care about the conditions in Israel—he was from Judah. God recruited him for the larger war where disaster was looming. He didn’t pick the fight. God brought the fight to Amos.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]God is warning us from the book of Amos. Here is where carnal preachers will point out that we don’t need the Old Testament. Yet, Paul said to Timothy, “Until I come, devote yourself to the public reading of Scripture, to preaching and to teaching.” -1 Timothy 4:13. Since there was no New Testament, he could only have meant the Old Testament.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]According to Amos, the central altar of God had been replaced by rogue altars. At these altars, pagan superstition mingled with Jewish tradition. They left the Bible out of their worship. God’s warning was clear: “tear them down or I will.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Today, churches have built rogue altars. Worship leaders prance church stages in stripper outfits. They see nothing wrong with it. They even teach that the body is a beautiful thing and if you have bad thoughts, it’s in your mind. The Bible disagrees. Proverbs 7: 10 Says, “And there a woman met him, With the attire of a harlot, and a crafty heart.” The NIV says, “clothes of a prostitute.” The Word is saying if you wear the uniform, there’s got to be a reason.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]We have pastors getting drunk with their staff after church. They began by justifying wine and then moved on to hard liquor. They justify it with grace teaching from beyond the Bible.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Both acts come from the same wickedness—abandoning the Bible. The Bible is gone as a standard. It is no longer regarded as the word of God.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]They are a confederation of teachers who want to teach your child how to use sex toys—who want to get them to experiment with gender. They are politicians who believe the family must be removed to make way for a socialist society. They are actors, professors, authors, news casters, and a litany of anti-God/anti-American ideals.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]They have already systemically changed California into a separate nation, and without a miracle will spread like cancer to the rest of the United States.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Why am I engaged in this fight? Because soul winning in America will be virtually impossible if our freedoms are destroyed.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The ideas and values that created America are under heavy attack. It is not just a physical war it is in the spirit world. Demonic engines drive this agenda. That makes the carnal church and her leaders special villains in the eyes of God.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Scantily clad women on stage and inebriated ministers are no longer just a matter of hypocrisy and carnality…it is blasphemy. When they—who are supposed to be leading the charge against darkness—instead, help advance the darkness, they are traitors. But doing it when it helps destroy our freedoms makes it high treason.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]No one is better equipped to break the curse than the church. Conservatives can only do so much. Your favorite commentator can only do so much. Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson can only accomplish a part of what we need.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]It is left to the Apostles, Prophets, Teachers, Pastors and Evangelists to take up the mantle for this hour. But, to our great horror…instead of purifying themselves for the battle of their life—instead of seeking holy fire to combat the evil—many are gorging on cheap grace, testing the limits of decency, and falling into dangerous addictions.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Hear the word of the Lord: Amos 3:13 Hear and testify against the house of Jacob,” Says the Lord God, the God of hosts, 14 “That in the day I punish Israel for their transgressions, I will also visit destruction on the altars of Bethel; And the horns of the altar shall be cut off And fall to the ground. 15 I will destroy the winter house along with the summer house; The houses of ivory shall perish, And the great houses shall have an end, Says the Lord.” Can this mean that lavish centers of worship can suddenly go missing? Can we afford to assume they cannot?

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[FONT=&quot]Two years later, an earthquake destroyed everything Amos targeted. This does not just apply to California, but to every church in America that has built idolatrous altars.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]You are helping destroy the miracle of liberty that came from our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]But Isaiah said, “tell the righteous it shall be well with them.” This is the hour for the remnant who love God and seek His face to feel comfort. You will be spared.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In fact, at this moment, heaven is releasing power for miracles, words of prophetic might, and great resources to do the work of God. Those who have kept their integrity–and perhaps labored in obscurity not seeing results—will receive great power and multiplication.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]For the rest there remains an ominous warning: In your carnality, you are one the greatest threats to freedom. Again, you are aiding and abetting the destruction of a great miracle—the miracle of liberty that came from our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]If the church will not rise up and speak…God will turn even nature against us to spare America. Matthew Henry said something chilling in his commentary on Amos: “If men will not destroy idolatrous altars, God will, and those with them that had them in veneration.”

By an American Evangelist [/FONT]

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7seasrekeyed

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I was minding my own business winning gang members, addicts, and college students to Christ. I loved my life. There was no way I wanted to get in this fray. God ordered me to warn the churches of impending disaster. It meant rebuking their violations of scripture, rampant immorality, and political heresy.
No way I wanted to do this. That’s why the life of Amos the prophet was a comfort to me. He said “I’m not a prophet nor the son of a prophet.” He was content in what he was doing. He was a successful herdsman. He was from Judah and the sins of a separate Kingdom didn’t matter to him.
He didn’t care about the conditions in Israel—he was from Judah. God recruited him for the larger war where disaster was looming. He didn’t pick the fight. God brought the fight to Amos.
God is warning us from the book of Amos. Here is where carnal preachers will point out that we don’t need the Old Testament. Yet, Paul said to Timothy, “Until I come, devote yourself to the public reading of Scripture, to preaching and to teaching.” -1 Timothy 4:13. Since there was no New Testament, he could only have meant the Old Testament.
According to Amos, the central altar of God had been replaced by rogue altars. At these altars, pagan superstition mingled with Jewish tradition. They left the Bible out of their worship. God’s warning was clear: “tear them down or I will.”
Today, churches have built rogue altars. Worship leaders prance church stages in stripper outfits. They see nothing wrong with it. They even teach that the body is a beautiful thing and if you have bad thoughts, it’s in your mind. The Bible disagrees. Proverbs 7: 10 Says, “And there a woman met him, With the attire of a harlot, and a crafty heart.” The NIV says, “clothes of a prostitute.” The Word is saying if you wear the uniform, there’s got to be a reason.
We have pastors getting drunk with their staff after church. They began by justifying wine and then moved on to hard liquor. They justify it with grace teaching from beyond the Bible.
Both acts come from the same wickedness—abandoning the Bible. The Bible is gone as a standard. It is no longer regarded as the word of God.
They are a confederation of teachers who want to teach your child how to use sex toys—who want to get them to experiment with gender. They are politicians who believe the family must be removed to make way for a socialist society. They are actors, professors, authors, news casters, and a litany of anti-God/anti-American ideals.
They have already systemically changed California into a separate nation, and without a miracle will spread like cancer to the rest of the United States.
Why am I engaged in this fight? Because soul winning in America will be virtually impossible if our freedoms are destroyed.
The ideas and values that created America are under heavy attack. It is not just a physical war it is in the spirit world. Demonic engines drive this agenda. That makes the carnal church and her leaders special villains in the eyes of God.
Scantily clad women on stage and inebriated ministers are no longer just a matter of hypocrisy and carnality…it is blasphemy. When they—who are supposed to be leading the charge against darkness—instead, help advance the darkness, they are traitors. But doing it when it helps destroy our freedoms makes it high treason.
No one is better equipped to break the curse than the church. Conservatives can only do so much. Your favorite commentator can only do so much. Ben Shapiro and Jordan Peterson can only accomplish a part of what we need.
It is left to the Apostles, Prophets, Teachers, Pastors and Evangelists to take up the mantle for this hour. But, to our great horror…instead of purifying themselves for the battle of their life—instead of seeking holy fire to combat the evil—many are gorging on cheap grace, testing the limits of decency, and falling into dangerous addictions.
Hear the word of the Lord: Amos 3:13 Hear and testify against the house of Jacob,” Says the Lord God, the God of hosts, 14 “That in the day I punish Israel for their transgressions, I will also visit destruction on the altars of Bethel; And the horns of the altar shall be cut off And fall to the ground. 15 I will destroy the winter house along with the summer house; The houses of ivory shall perish, And the great houses shall have an end, Says the Lord.” Can this mean that lavish centers of worship can suddenly go missing? Can we afford to assume they cannot?


Two years later, an earthquake destroyed everything Amos targeted. This does not just apply to California, but to every church in America that has built idolatrous altars.
You are helping destroy the miracle of liberty that came from our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution.
But Isaiah said, “tell the righteous it shall be well with them.” This is the hour for the remnant who love God and seek His face to feel comfort. You will be spared.
In fact, at this moment, heaven is releasing power for miracles, words of prophetic might, and great resources to do the work of God. Those who have kept their integrity–and perhaps labored in obscurity not seeing results—will receive great power and multiplication.
For the rest there remains an ominous warning: In your carnality, you are one the greatest threats to freedom. Again, you are aiding and abetting the destruction of a great miracle—the miracle of liberty that came from our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution.
If the church will not rise up and speak…God will turn even nature against us to spare America. Matthew Henry said something chilling in his commentary on Amos: “If men will not destroy idolatrous altars, God will, and those with them that had them in veneration.”

By an American Evangelist



they have become like 'gods' to many and 'worship' music is a huge money making machine and it does not glorify God


seems this is not a popular thread


alot more could be said, but it seems the 'American Evangelist' already spelled it out
 

notuptome

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This subject has never been popular with the modern church.

Come out from among them and be ye separate unto the Lord.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
 
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This subject has never been popular with the modern church.

Come out from among them and be ye separate unto the Lord.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
the words of Christ are not really very popular either with the 'modern' church as covered in the other 2 posts made by CS

I can hardly explain the way I 'feel' about it all

things are changing so fast by the modern movements, that I say with all conviction they have rejected the truth for a lie

powerless, empty experiences have replaced the actual life giving and life changing expression of the Holy Spirit in the lives of those who believe that they have new revelations

anyway, people who say otherwise to all these 'new things' will be hated while the church moves towards 'love love love' but it is love of the world and not of God

I believe it is the doctrines of demons the Bible speaks about and a departing from biblical doctrine
 

FlSnookman7

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I am no pastor or evangelist so I speak for me when I say that the biggest threat we face as a nation and a planet is the twisting of the gospel to fit personal agendas. The gospel of grace is not a license to sin but rather it is the freedom to stop living a life of worldliness and let God transform us as He sees fit.
Again, for me, the transformation that occurred when I was saved was total and complete. I am not the same as I was before. Do I still mess up? Of course. But I now have consideration for how my actions reflect Jesus love or do not.
I do believe that America is the greatest country and that there are those who seek her destruction. I also know that if God decides we are to remain then remain we shall. We do an injustice to those who fought and died and suffered for freedom to look at the past like it was idyllic. We have made great strides against racism and disease only to allow apathy and the worship of the famous to take away so much of our freedom. Nothing is harder to regain than a freedom lost.
That said, politics and sports (2 subjects I was once passionate about) no longer hold my interest like they once did. I know now that they are insignificant when compared with the bigger picture.

I have never seen any "rock star" pastors but I have seen good men and women of God make mistakes. Am I to hold them to a higher standard or forgive them? We all battle the flesh, some it seems would rather attempt to hide their shortcomings by holding up and hiding behind what they perceive as worse "sins" committed by others. his we see here a lot when people are attacked for stating a belief under the guise of "Godly correction". Want to change the world? Be the change you seek. We need to stop worrying so much about others and live a life that honors God. We do not change or save anyone and a holier than thou attitude only serves our own ego, not God.

Well, off to work. Just remember, it's almost never as bad or as good as it seems. Do not be fooled into living in fear. Get to know people who are different than you, get out there and live with a joy that shines through the darkness.

As I reread this I must say this is NOT directed at the poster or anyone in particular.
 
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disheveled shall be the hair of the world, when satan's flag is unfurled...
 
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By an American Evangelist ????

Interesting and the hidden link also.
 

mcubed

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G-d was speaking to Israel as a whole.... Is G-d only judging the "church" that is upon stage?
 
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G-d was speaking to Israel as a whole.... Is G-d only judging the "church" that is upon stage?
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God is the Judge of all of man-kind, and all are standing upon the stage...
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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How does one dress like a drunk?
 

hornetguy

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How does one dress like a drunk?
I'm still wondering where the "scantily clad women" are. I assume the American minister is talking about religious women on stage, and not worldly women.
 
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removed cannot promote minsteries on CC . That is why I did not use the name :)
Interesting site:)

By an American Evangelist ????

Interesting and the hidden link also.
 
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now this is interesting....

Now Trump has brought North and South Korea together. Do you think he will get the Nobel Prize for brokering the most amazing peace since Teddy Roosevelt?

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Who knew Trump had accomplished this...wow I guess I missed it.:cool:



cannot promote other minsteries onn CC rule violation #13 :) that is why I did not post the name .
 
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CS1

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anyone who would like my source please ask me and i will provided it however, The name was not given to be in line withj rule # 13. And "American Evangelist" is what he is known as.

Thank you,
 
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UnderGrace

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Confused,:confused:

So you can place his words here without citing the source is this then not plagiarism?


anyone who would like my source please ask me and i will provided it however, The name was not given to be in line withj rule # 13. And "American Evangelist" is what he is known as.

Thank you,
 
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7seasrekeyed

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How does one dress like a drunk?

torn and dishevelled clothing...looking like they crawled out of an alley

thing is, it is a 'look' they are recreating

counter-culture

it's all out there
 

CS1

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Confused,:confused:

So you can place his words here without citing the source is this then not plagiarism?
hmm you do have point however I never claimed them to be my words :) they are from an "Evangelist " I think your right :)

the writer is Mario Murillo .
 
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hmm you do have point however I never claimed them to be my words :) they are from an "Evangelist " I think your right :)

the writer is Mario Murillo .
Would you know why DJ2's thread was deleted this morning ? This seems rather peculiar to me.
 
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UnderGrace

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How does one dress like a drunk?
Good question....knew a drunk once back in the day, who wore Giorgio Armani suits. Sometimes stereotypes just do not work.
 
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eternally-gratefull

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I am a little confused, do not want to judge the op.

Are you saying it is better to wear 500 - 1000 dollar suits to church, then wear casual clothing that costs less than 100 dollars. and give the 400 to 900 dollars (a suit) to people who need it? should they all drive BMW's also? or os ot ok if they drive 1990 something toyota pick up trucks? (which the elder pastor of my particular sphere drives, oh and he wears jeans also. is this sin)