Til death do we part

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greatkraw

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OreoSoleil said:
maybe he made that point - but he didn't mean it literally.

There is no suffering in Heaven -- there is no way the life here is even comparable to the life after I die.
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"Occupy until I come"

we are already seated with Him in the heavenlies
 
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LostMyHeart

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serpentslayer said:
It sadden me when i go to funerals and see 'chritians' and non-christians weeping
uncontrolably, because i see thesse people as being without hope, meaning they
do not understand the BIG PICTURE, that all this is only temporary, even death, which
too shall be cast into the Lake of Fire. So where is their faith (for the believers)? It is
written that the day of one's death is better than the day of one's birth (Eccl7:1);
therefore, should we not celebrate at funerals, especially for those we believe are
saved: knowing that their struggles are over and they are with the LORD? But, i think
christians mourn more so when they believe the person who died was not saved? My
dad passed away last Dec., and my mom, who has been in the church since her youth,
always talks about his soul. He very rarely went to church and didn't read the
Bible, so she is convinced he is lost, and it depresses her severly still. The point i
always stress to her it that we can never proclude the mercy of GOD since that is
HIS to give, nor can we judge which way a person is going to go (UP/Down). We can
beleive a person is in heaven or hell, but we can in no way so it is so. Besides, it is
written the Love covers a multitude of sins (1PT4:8), which again, is the LORD'S
right to forgive sin

Christians should not fear death, nor anything else except GOD: and to have fear is
a sign of insecurity, or wavering faith. If GOD allows satan to take me by any means,
I'm outta here! And GLORY TO GOD because my work is done and my bones shall
find rest. And, GOD Willing, my spirit shall return to Him.
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I can only think that for a person to think as you do it only means you have never loved truly. I have no doubts my husband is with Jesus, and though shaken I still have my faith. We mourn and cry uncontrollably as you described because the pain of losing the one you love, the pain of knowing your whole future is gone, the pain of knowing all your dreams and hopes are gone hurts physically. The "Big Picture" does not solve the problem that there are little children being raised without their fathers, "The Big Picture" doesn't lessen the pain of a spouse who lost the "Head of the House" and now has to support the house on her own. It is US we mourn! It is US we lose when the person we love dies. I really hope you don't have to go through this one day to find out why Christians mourn and cry. The only thing I have to look forward is death, so I can be with Jesus, reunited with my soulmate.
 
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serpentslayer

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May 25, 2010
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Forgive me Lostmyheart, i did not mean to offend you or belittle
the effects of death on the living. It is obvious by your name and
your words that you are still suffering, but the Lord knows what
you are going through and i am sure your faith will be stronger
when this is over. If you find your heart, give it all to Jesus because
He will never break it.

i cry too, when i go to funerals; but, it is for the same reason Jesus
wept. I cry not for the dead, but the living of the dead, for their
grief But i realize that are tears our for ourself mostly, not the dead.

When my grandmother (who is a christian) died, i was very glad for
her because she was now with the Lord as i believe it to be, and
because she was no longer stuck in that 91yr old body. She told me
beforehand that she was going to die, even though her only problem
was that she was old, and i beleived her: so when the news came,
certainly i shed tears, but they were more for the joy i believe she is
now experiencing in Paradise, having been a loving and faithful
servant. And it is these thoughts that help take the sting out of death.
 
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LostMyHeart

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My heart and my husband's heart belonged to Jesus throughout this whole mess. If my husband were 90 years-old, I would have been happy for him, knowing I would be following him soon... But he was 47, with two small children and so many plans for the future. Now I see myself here, just turned 38 and have a lifetime of grieving ahead of me until my time finally comes. There is no acceptance when death comes too soon. There is no measure of comfort for those left behind to face a lifetime alone. It is the feeling of having been forsaken after believing, praying and trusting that throws a loop on your faith....
 
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charisenexcelcis

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LostMyHeart said:
I can only think that for a person to think as you do it only means you have never loved truly. I have no doubts my husband is with Jesus, and though shaken I still have my faith. We mourn and cry uncontrollably as you described because the pain of losing the one you love, the pain of knowing your whole future is gone, the pain of knowing all your dreams and hopes are gone hurts physically. The "Big Picture" does not solve the problem that there are little children being raised without their fathers, "The Big Picture" doesn't lessen the pain of a spouse who lost the "Head of the House" and now has to support the house on her own. It is US we mourn! It is US we lose when the person we love dies. I really hope you don't have to go through this one day to find out why Christians mourn and cry. The only thing I have to look forward is death, so I can be with Jesus, reunited with my soulmate.
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I am sorry at your loss. How long abo has it been? I know that you hurt know, but I am sure that the one love would want you to live an abundant life.
 
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LostMyHeart

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charisenexcelcis said:
I am sorry at your loss. How long abo has it been? I know that you hurt know, but I am sure that the one love would want you to live an abundant life.
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Hello. I always like your posts. Marc died on March 10th, 2010. He was 47 and I was 37. It was a battle with pancreatic cancer that suddenly took a turn and spread all over. My abundant life was already here... I am at a loss now... I do not have Job's strength or faith... I am the least of God's servants, I am worthless and shameful and I feel abandoned and forsaken. If it weren't for my children I would be begging God to take me every minute of my day.
 
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charisenexcelcis

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LostMyHeart said:
Hello. I always like your posts. Marc died on March 10th, 2010. He was 47 and I was 37. It was a battle with pancreatic cancer that suddenly took a turn and spread all over. My abundant life was already here... I am at a loss now... I do not have Job's strength or faith... I am the least of God's servants, I am worthless and shameful and I feel abandoned and forsaken. If it weren't for my children I would be begging God to take me every minute of my day.
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The sweeter the fruit, the more bitter the loss. All I can say is, live your life to honor his memory. What he invested in your life will bear fruit as sweet as his love for you. This is true of Marc and of God.
 
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Saint

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LostMyHeart said:
Hello. I always like your posts. Marc died on March 10th, 2010. He was 47 and I was 37. It was a battle with pancreatic cancer that suddenly took a turn and spread all over. My abundant life was already here... I am at a loss now... I do not have Job's strength or faith... I am the least of God's servants, I am worthless and shameful and I feel abandoned and forsaken. If it weren't for my children I would be begging God to take me every minute of my day.
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i am very sorry for your loss. Isaiah 57:1 and 2 was a big help for me to understand why people die before their time, and i pray that it helps you too. and remember, the least in the kingdom will be the greatest in the kingdom, and even Jesus believed that He was being forsaken. and i pray that you will get through this, and so do a lot of other people on here. if you need any help, advise, or even simply some encouragement, we are here.
 
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LostMyHeart

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I thank you both for your words. They do help me. I will look into Isaiah 57:1. Just this... scriptural words that you just gave me are helpful... I am not able to deal with "God has a plan for you", or "God will comfort you", or "He is in a better place"... All I plan is to do what you said... live my life to honor his memory... doesn't make it easier... but it's all I can do...
Thank you
 
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charisenexcelcis

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LostMyHeart said:
I thank you both for your words. They do help me. I will look into Isaiah 57:1. Just this... scriptural words that you just gave me are helpful... I am not able to deal with "God has a plan for you", or "God will comfort you", or "He is in a better place"... All I plan is to do what you said... live my life to honor his memory... doesn't make it easier... but it's all I can do...
Thank you
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Our prayers are with you.
David King
 
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