TIme has change .Why ?

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john832

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[SUP]Daniel 7

25 [/SUP]And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.



What is the time and times and the dividing of time.?
These verses do not refer to a changing of times and laws.
 

john832

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There is one Law (the fourth Commandment) that has to do with time.
How did you get that ? Who is the he ?
Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

This passage is referring to a false prophet who has ruled over seven resurrections of the Holy Roman Empire.

Ten all together, but the first three were not sanctioned by this leader. (Heruli, Ostrogoths and Vandals). The next six were and there is one waiting in the wings.
 
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Dan 7:24 And the ten horns out of this kingdom are ten kings that shall arise: and another shall rise after them; and he shall be diverse from the first, and he shall subdue three kings.
Dan 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and shall wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws: and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the dividing of time.

This passage is referring to a false prophet who has ruled over seven resurrections of the Holy Roman Empire.

Ten all together, but the first three were not sanctioned by this leader. (Heruli, Ostrogoths and Vandals). The next six were and there is one waiting in the wings.
What is the dividing of times ?
 

p_rehbein

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Or, one could say it was God ordained............. :)

[h=1]Ecclesiastes
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1 .) To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
2 .) A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
3 .) A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
4 .) A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
5 .) A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
6 .) A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
7 .) A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
8 .) A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
9 .) What profit hath he that worketh in that wherein he laboureth?
10 .) I have seen the travail, which God hath given to the sons of men to be exercised in it.
11 .) He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.
12 .) I know that there is no good in them, but for a man to rejoice, and to do good in his life.
13 .) And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labour, it is the gift of God.
14 .) I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.
15 .) That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.
 
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Or, one could say it was God ordained............. :)

Ecclesiastes
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1 .) To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven:
2 .) A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted;
3 .) A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up;
4 .) A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance;
5 .) A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing;
6 .) A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away;
7 .) A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak;
8 .) A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace.
9 .) What profit hath he that worketh in that wherein he laboureth?
10 .) I have seen the travail, which God hath given to the sons of men to be exercised in it.
11 .) He hath made every thing beautiful in his time: also he hath set the world in their heart, so that no man can find out the work that God maketh from the beginning to the end.
12 .) I know that there is no good in them, but for a man to rejoice, and to do good in his life.
13 .) And also that every man should eat and drink, and enjoy the good of all his labour, it is the gift of God.
14 .) I know that, whatsoever God doeth, it shall be for ever: nothing can be put to it, nor any thing taken from it: and God doeth it, that men should fear before him.
15 .) That which hath been is now; and that which is to be hath already been; and God requireth that which is past.

Do you have any clue on what Daniel 7:25 means ? please share with us
 

posthuman

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If you look at 2008 to present change has hit us all with out choice. Peoples thinking and actions have turned dark. The thoughts of people and expectation. Alot of thoughts are dark and disobedient. Selfishness play a big roll and so does entitlement.
i think you meant to say:

"if you look at the fall of man in the garden of Eden to the present... "

if you think mankind feared God and everything was just roses in 2007 and prior, i think you're a victim of a certain political propaganda machine. mankind has been increasing their wickedness for all of history.
 
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Looks like this verse is not known to alot of people Also
 
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Has the He change the sabbath from saturday to sunday ? when where and how
 
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Has the He change the sabbath from saturday to sunday ? when where and how
Hi Isdaniel, I've never seen evidence that God changed Saturday to Sunday, so I say no. Jesus kept the Sabbath Day Rest, as well as in the Spirit of the Law. Where there is law, there is love.
 
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​Must be talking about daylight savings time......Ha
 
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Do you have any clue on what Daniel 7:25 means ? please share with us
Here is Daniel 7:25:
He shall speak words against the Most High, shall wear out the holy ones of the Most High, and shall attempt to change the sacred seasons and the law; and they shall be given into his power for a time, two times, and half a time.

When Daniel says "he" it is speaking of the anti-Christ who will be in the last days. Daniel was written 7 centuries before Christ, so he sometimes did not understand all God was showing him in the vision. The holy ones are all those who belong to the Lord. The spirit of the anti-Christ has been with us most of the time since Christ, for it is this spirit that attempts to change the sacred seasons and God's law. Most churches believe that man should not listen to God's seasons but can create their own seasons, and many believe that when Christ completed law He wiped out all of what was God's law to be only law as men interpret it saying it is in the spirit of God. The antichrist will be given power for a time.
 
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Let the bible tell you what "times" are. If you understand this, then you can also understand Daniel 9. I hope this helps.

Jer_8:7 Yea, the stork in the heaven knoweth her appointed times; and the turtle and the crane and the swallow observe the time of their coming; but my people know not the judgment of the LORD.