Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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Aidan1

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This is completely false. The body's immune system is equipped to deal with ANY AND ALL foreign invaders and even toxins. Do you know how complex and complete God has made our immune systems? There is a whole array of organs, tissues, and responses to microbial invaders.
Yes, look back in the history and read how many people dies through deseases. No you must not go into the past. In the present people dies because of deseases. What is with there natural immunity?
Why we need medicine? According to your post we dont need it.
You forgot that we live since the sinfall in garden Eden in a sinful World.
Would you also say that medicine is evil?
 

John146

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So what? Even if you are correct, that does not change the fact that people are dying from COVID and the vaccine helps reduce the level of sickness and death dramatically. If you want to risk your life and the lives of people you are close to, it is your choice. Me, I like the people I know and I don't want to see them suffer. So I've had the first jab and I will get the second in 3 weeks.
Myself, being an at risk cancer survivor, as well as the rest of my family and dozens of close friends have already had COVID and easily beat it with the frontline meds. Now we have natural immunity that is far greater than the shot.
 
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I am discussing the Movement that took place, not these lost sheep, trying to create a Denomination out of it. Very Big Difference in your understanding and my intentions.
I am also

My baptist church had a new pastor that all he taught was hellfire and brimstone. He had almost 150 people wh had been members of that church for years. They needed fed, not judged

20 minute sermonette don’t feed the flock. Thats why the flock has become a bunch of men followers and Not God followers.

And we see the results, its. Not good
 

Aidan1

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Myself, being an at risk cancer survivor, as well as the rest of my family and dozens of close friends have already had COVID and easily beat it with the frontline meds. Now we have natural immunity that is far greater than the shot.
Mab you had the natural immunity before?
And this treatment supportet your immunesystem. You have a immunity now, because your body bildet up antibodys against covid, after you had it. This helped you, not the treatment. This will function with 98% of those who will get the covidvirus. . But with this 2% it will not work. (This are minimum 140 000 000 people worlwide). Otherwise the studies would Show it. But this seems for some here just peanuts.
 

gb9

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Mab you had the natural immunity before?
And this treatment supportet your immunesystem. You have a immunity now, because your body bildet up antibodys against covid, after you had it. This helped you, not the treatment. This will function with 98% of those who will get the covidvirus. . But with this 2% it will not work. (This are minimum 140 000 000 people worlwide). Otherwise the studies would Show it. But this seems for some here just peanuts.

150,000 active cases of covid in a country of 84 million people. ( germany)

a 94% chance one will not come into contact with a covid positive person.


peanuts indeed.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Then fine and gratulation to yourself, that you dont belong to the 2%.
Good to know who belongs to the 2%. You can ask my indian friends how many of their friends and familymembers belonged to the 2%. Its saying that at least 200 indian pastors died because they belonged to the 2%. They all are Christians.
Go ahead and spread your claimes. Fear can make blind for the reality. The Lord will reveal the truth if the time is ripe for it.
And again, the Pandemie makes it easier for to create a future controlesystem. But the enemy is not the vaccine. This will come, independ on the vaccine.
You are right. The enemey is not the vaccine. The vaccine is a weapon in the enemy's hand.
 
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I see In the poll that the number of members who believe that getting the vaccine means that the christian lacks faith,Is going up.

I feel that getting the vaccine shows faith and demonstrates faith In action/love thy neighbor.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Nobody in germany is restrictet to entry a grocery store, many you mean Austria.? You even must not be vaccined for to enter it.

What me hitting is that Christians following unproofed conspiracy theorys and hold believers for nonbelievers if they take the vaccine.

The Antichrist and his System will come, but not through this vaccine.
No, not Österreich, Deutschland.

"Supermarkets in German state of Hesse can now block entry to the unvaccinated

Supermarkets in Frankfurt and the surrounding region can now implement rules that only allow vaccinated
and Covid-recovered people onto their premises.
The new Covid health pass entry rules announced by the central state of Hesse have upped the pressure on the unvaccinated

by allowing all shops to implement the so-called 2G rule at their doors."


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https://www.thelocal.de/20211015/su...esse-can-now-block-entry-to-the-unvaccinated/
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Of course if a program of world-domination is your main priority why make known treatments available
when you can divert funds to help pay for poisoning children instead?
:devilish::devilish::devilish:

16.10.2021: Biontech and Pfizer apply for approval of vaccine for children

" Mainz (dpa) - The Mainz-based pharmaceutical company Biontech and its US partner Pfizer have now applied for approval of their corona vaccine for children aged five to eleven in Europe. Both announced in Mainz and New York on Friday that they had submitted
the relevant data on the clinical trials to the EU medicines agency EMA.

The same data had already been submitted to the US Food and Drug Administration (FDA). There, Biontech and Pfizer had applied for emergency approval of the corona vaccine for children aged five to eleven on 7 October."

https://www.deutschland.de/en/news/coronavirus-in-germany-informations
 

John146

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Mab you had the natural immunity before?
And this treatment supportet your immunesystem. You have a immunity now, because your body bildet up antibodys against covid, after you had it. This helped you, not the treatment. This will function with 98% of those who will get the covidvirus. . But with this 2% it will not work. (This are minimum 140 000 000 people worlwide). Otherwise the studies would Show it. But this seems for some here just peanuts.
The treatment help minimize the effects of covid. The first two days were pretty bad, but that next day after I started the meds, literally within 6 hours I was absolutely 100% better. Thank you to the frontline doctors for taking a stand and providing these meds.
 

John146

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150,000 active cases of covid in a country of 84 million people. ( germany)

a 94% chance one will not come into contact with a covid positive person.


peanuts indeed.
And over a 99% chance of survival with zero treatment.
 
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Who could forget the great Toilet Paper Crisis of 2020? :D

And during that TPC (Toilet Paper Crisis) people seemed to forget that they needed food to go through their bodies in order to USE that TP.....




:unsure: of course, then again, maybe the whole world just wanted to REALLY do a lot of arts and craft.

 

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Yes, look back in the history and read how many people dies through deseases. No you must not go into the past. In the present people dies because of deseases. What is with there natural immunity?
Why we need medicine? According to your post we dont need it.
You forgot that we live since the sinfall in garden Eden in a sinful World.
Would you also say that medicine is evil?
All have sinned and all will die.

You can have the world's best medicine and it will never save a single life - all will die.

Now, am i against health and our responsibility before God to keep our bodies healthy - absolutely not.

There is true 'medicine' and then there is the counterfeit.

There are few true prophets and the many false prophets,
few true teachers and the many false teachers,
the ONE CHRIST and the many anti-christs

The coming of the lawless one will be accompanied by the working of Satan, with every kind of power, sign, and false wonder, and with every wicked deception directed against those who are perishing, because they refused the love of the truth that would have saved them. For this reason God will send them a powerful delusion so that they believe the lie, in order that judgment may come upon all who have disbelieved the truth and delighted in wickedness.

Dear Aidan1, make sure you are not deceived by the modern miracles of medicine, the vaxx and more of what is to come.
 

Aidan1

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150,000 active cases of covid in a country of 84 million people. ( germany)

a 94% chance one will not come into contact with a covid positive person.


peanuts indeed.
We had till today 4410000 covid infections, dark figure will be more. and over 94000 deaths.
I am not afraid about my person to infect with, even I work in hospital.
You just ignore that 140 millions will not survive this desease. If the statistik is correct.
But it seems that this not matters you.
 
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You are right. The enemey is not the vaccine. The vaccine is a weapon in the enemy's hand.
The vaccine is not the weapon or the enemy
the people trying to push the vaccine is the enemy it’s all political
 
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