Vaccination?

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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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shittim

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Most who claim to be Christian arene't really according to scripture and they do notseekmor walk in Holy spirit guidance and protection as required.
He told us plainly of this time when "they will hold to an outward form of godliness, denying the power thereof".
 

Gideon300

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the ONLY thing that defines an actual Christian is their faith in Christ and in HIS triumph over death on our behalf

your opinions and your decisions or your thinking do not define believers nor does your judgement of how a Christian should behave according to all your little facts lined up and marching to the world systems

millions of people have not been saved from being disabled and killed. it may not be millions yet, but thousands have been permanently disabled and some have died because of this experiment being conducted on a world wide basis

the FDA has lied to the entire population of the United States and anyone with 2 brain cells to rub together should do some research on how a vaccine actual is determined to be 'safe' and how long it takes to come to that conclusion and the ardorous road to get there

the truth is relevant all the time. all the time.
Where I live, just one percent of hospitalised patients have full vaccination. There is no mention of underlying causes that may make people more susceptible. The sad fact is that some people believe what they want to believe and truth and facts come a long way second. That Christians should be so prone to fall for lies is a tragedy. It means that they can easily fall for every lie that is floating around. Some fear 5G for absolutely no reason, some fall for the flat earth foolishness when it is demonstrably false. They prefer to listen to the father of lies than to love the truth. If they persist, God will cause them to believe lies. That will disqualify them from participation in the Kingdom of God. And it is all so unnecessary.

I was briefly in the COVID ward last year in our local hospital. It was before the Delta outbreak. It was pretty much deserted, more staff than patients. Delta is changing that as it is far more infectious. Australia has 25 million people, give or take. The UK has 67 million. Around 1100 Australians have died from COVID. Australia's restrictions have been hard. If we'd gone down the UK's track, we could easily have 40 or 50 thousand dead. I prefer the way Australia has gone about it. I have had the first jab and I'm looking forward to getting the next. Maybe life will get back to something like normal.

Australia has it's own version of the FDA. It has passed Pfizer, Astra Zeneca and more recently, Moderna. It is not a puppet of the USA, much to the disgust of those who would rush medications through.
 

PennEd

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Where I live, just one percent of hospitalised patients have full vaccination.
How do you know that?

This is exactly what many of the frontline Drs and nurses are saying. That it is a lie that it is the unvaccinated that are being hospitalized.

And if we look at some of THE most vaccinated countries on earth, they are having an explosion of cases and hospitalizations.
 

PennEd

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I note the source. I am not convinced that it is any way reliable.
Your sources have lied to you about every aspect of the virus and vaccine from the very start of the plandemic.

Yet you STILL believe them!
 

shittim

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Sipsey

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Here is an interesting tidbit buried deeply in an article highlighting the push for booster shots based on a new study out of Israel;

Monday, an international group of scientists led by Dr. Philip Krause, deputy chief of the FDA’s vaccine regulation office, and including his boss, Dr. Marion Gruber, published an essay in The Lancet that questioned the need for widespread booster shots at this time.

Krause and Gruber had announced their retirements from the FDA on Aug. 30 — at least partly in response to the booster announcement, according to four scientists who know them. Gruber, who will remain at the agency until later this fall, is listed as a participant in Friday’s meeting.

The Lancet paper argues that vaccine-based protection against severe covid is still strong, while evidence is lacking that booster shots will be safe and effective. University of Florida biostatistician Ira Longini, a co-author on the Lancet paper, said it would be “immoral” to begin widespread boosters before the rest of the world was better vaccinated. As the disease continues its global spread, he noted, it is likely to develop deadlier and more vaccine-evasive mutants.

Longini was also skeptical of an August study, which Israeli scientists are to present to the FDA on Friday, that NIH officials had touted as strong evidence in support of boosters. On an Aug. 24 call with Israeli officials, Fauci urged them to publish that data, and a version appeared in the New England Journal of Medicine on Wednesday.

That study found that people receiving a third dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine were 11 times more likely to be protected from covid infection than those who had gotten only two doses. But the study observed people for less than two weeks after their booster vaccinations kicked in. Biostatisticians felt it had irregularities that raised questions about its worth.

“I don’t want to say the study isn’t correct, but it hasn’t been reviewed and there are possible biases,” said Longini, who helped design the 2015 trial that resulted in a successful Ebola vaccine and now works on global covid vaccine trials.
 

joaniemarie

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Nicki Minaj hits back at Biden WH after it claims vaccine-related phone call, not a visit, was offered

https://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/nicki-minaj-biden-white-house-phone-call-vaccine

Wow, that was surprising to listen to. Basic common sense stuff and the advice to her fans to PRAY by a rapper woman in Hollywood?!! Good for her!

I sure do hope the "woke" individuals posting on THIS thread who will be REPORTING TO GOVERNMENT AUTHORITIES on their fellow Christian brothers and sisters if they don't get the vaccination will take SOME LESSONS from this rapper from Hollywood.
 

joaniemarie

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Sounds exactly like the Nazi sympathizers when their Jewish neighbors were hiding OR when their non Jewish neighbors where helping the Jews hide from getting killed by the Nazis.

These Nazi sympathizers reported on their neighbors., fellow citizens and EVEN FAMILY causing them to be controlled, killed tortured or put in concentration camps to be tortured and killed later., but all the while justifying their actions as godly and righteous. Sickening and deadly then... sickening and deadly today
 

AandW

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The WORD says to obey the government.:)

Even though, we are Obeying the government because the Word of God Instructs us to do, and even though, in this [world] we are as lambs before the slaughter. We understand the CDC is either:

1. Covering up a bio-weapon
2. Dealing with a real Virus Pandemic
3. Believes Masking the Cells is key to Confusing this Entity

Behind the Scenes, there is still a [ROOT] of Evil Possible Circulating for Their:

1. Intentions
2. Profit Margin
3. Cover-Up
4. Deception

But They do have REAL Numbers:

1. Those Reported to have Covid
2. Those who Doctors have diagnosed as Covid
3. Those who test kits come back Positive and Reported
4. Hospital Beds [USED] by Covid Patients
5. Survival Rates
6. Death Rates



Bottom Line, We are Indeed to Obey the Government because GOD put the Government there to oversee us. And Paul did write: Disobeying the Government is equal to Disobeying God and those who do [Will be Punished]. And, this Vaccine Mandate is not telling us to STOP believing in God or STOP Preaching, or STOP Anything pertaining to Our Faith. So, there are no God Issues at all involved here. Therefore, there should be NO Reason to Refuse the Mandate!
 
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Sounds exactly like the Nazi sympathizers when their Jewish neighbors were hiding OR when their non Jewish neighbors where helping the Jews hide from getting killed by the Nazis.

These Nazi sympathizers reported on their neighbors., fellow citizens and EVEN FAMILY causing them to be controlled, killed tortured or put in concentration camps to be tortured and killed later., but all the while justifying their actions as godly and righteous. Sickening and deadly then... sickening and deadly today
I think you are shading the meaning of love your neighbor,remember GOD looks at the heart,Its true you are suppose to obey the government but I Wouldnt obey the government If In MY HEART I thought It was wrong.BTW,I didn’t think It was wrong for the germans to hide the jews from the nazis In there homes and lie to the nazis that there was no jews there.
 

AandW

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My States last 5 day Rates:

Cases
647K +1,594

Deaths
7,516 +18

That equals 110,000 new Cases Confirmed to Date Resulting in an average of 1,300 DEATHS every 24 Hours.

More than 96% of [STATE I Live In] COVID hospitalizations, deaths in first half of 2021 were among the unvaccinated
 

AandW

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Personally, I think it is a Bio-Weapon maliciously unleashed to attack the elderly and weaken immune'd in a sort of Euthanasia Monotone.

But for me, it's a Wake Up Call because I have always Believed we are part of that Last Generation who would see real Events taking place that don't seem like a normal pattern for humanity.