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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

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shittim

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By your reasoning, we all should have the Same Spiritual Gifts, [if the Holy Spirit doesn't give or instruct someone to do one thing and another the opposite]. But hardly any of us have the [same Two Gifts]!
the source of the "gifts" is the same Holy Spirit jesus received and imparted to the 12, and they to the 70, unto today. Every manifestation of Holy Spirit power Jesus manifested is available to every believer. We are to grow as the disciples grew, as Jesus Himself grew, in Holy Spirit power and anounting.
 

SophieT

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By your reasoning, we all should have the Same Spiritual Gifts, [if the Holy Spirit doesn't give or instruct someone to do one thing and another the opposite]. But hardly any of us have the [same Two Gifts]!
right. and oreos now come in several different flavors

why did I write that you ask?

because it has as much to do with this thread as the three blind mice...much like your beee-zarre response to what I wrote

:giggle::coffee:
 

SophieT

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the source of the "gifts" is the same Holy Spirit jesus received and imparted to the 12, and they to the 70, unto today. Every manifestation of Holy Spirit power Jesus manifested is available to every believer. We are to grow as the disciples grew, as Jesus Himself grew, in Holy Spirit power and anounting.
he does not know what he's talking about

has nothing to do with what I said

he has become a legend in his own mind ;)
 

AandW

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the source of the "gifts" is the same Holy Spirit jesus received and imparted to the 12, and they to the 70, unto today. Every manifestation of Holy Spirit power Jesus manifested is available to every believer. We are to grow as the disciples grew, as Jesus Himself grew, in Holy Spirit power and anounting.
Amen, and I don't see how it is a big deal if one person feels the Holy Spirit led them to not be Vaccinated while another feels they were led by the Holy Spirit to be Vaccinated. We all should know by now, how God deals with us in our personal lives and handles issues with us on a one on one Relationship. We know if it is God or not who is leading us.
 

shittim

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The only person I know who is convinced the Lord told him no harm would come from the vaccination had to break eye contact with me and look down when he said that.
 

rayzor

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The only person I know who is convinced the Lord told him no harm would come from the vaccination had to break eye contact with me and look down when he said that.
George barnard shaw once said:If a man looks u in the eyes and give you a firm hand sake u know hes lying to you.:p
 

shittim

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george bernard shaw wasn't Jesus. A lot of people say a lot of things. You may honor him if you choose, I will honor Jesus.
 

Angela53510

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Let's also remember how God added 15 years to Hezekiah's life. There were no shots or meds involved.

And who is telling anyone to do that? But I also still believe in healing...so we have to do what God tells us to do. If God sends someone out to a sick ward then there would be no danger. Was Jesus ever afraid of any lepers? No, he walked in the power of God and was about his father's business....Which is what we are called to do as well.

Oh ye, of little faith.


Yes, I agree you are definitely not speaking for God.
Just to point out that you have missed an essential part of the story of Hezekiah. Yes, he prayed not to die and God answered that prayer.

But because he had 15 extra years, he had a son, who would not have existed should Hezekiah have died earlier, at the time God ordained for him.

That extra son was named Manasseh. He ruled as king for 55 years. And he was the WORST king Judah had. In fact, his reign led to the final fall of Judah.

These are huge implications. The story is not "Hezekiah prayed... God answered!" Simple, done deal!

Instead, it an extremely complicated situation. Hezekiah was selfish to have requested extra years. God knew Hezekiah would have a evil son who would destroy the Kingdom of Judah. Yet, perhaps that was his ultimate plan. So the Jews could be carried to captivity into Babylon, and live there 70 years. Then God would call them back to Jerusalem, to prepare for the incarnation, the first coming of Christ.

So try not to throw out trite examples of healing to prove your point, when you do not begin to understand the complexity of the story beyond a Sunday School level.

Many people are not healed today, despite a total and firm faith in God. God has used physical illness for all kinds of good.

"And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose." Romans 8:28

He certainly has in my life. As for the vax, best thing I did was get the 2 shots. I'm glad I listened to my doctors, and also my son-in-law and Daughter-in -law who are both doctors encourage me to get the protection, I need with my immune system compromised by 2 cancer drugs, for my severe Rheumatoid Arthritis.

"Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance,4 and endurance produces character, and character produces hope,5 and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us." Romans 5:3-5
 

Angela53510

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It is proven that getting the vaccine does not stop you from spreading it.
Your lack of science knowledge is showing! First, nothing is ever "proven" in science. Things can be correlated to a high degree, using statistical analysis. But there are cases where random chance can account for results where Placebo Effect resulted in more than half the people who received a placebo (an inert substitute or saline solution) thought they were better, even when a controlling factor was measured to show they had gone downhill with the Placebo.

Further, if you are going to conclusive state ("prove") that something is absolutely true, bring on the references cited!

IOW - the journal of medicine, edition, date, page number, name of the article, author(s), publisher, etc.

More than one reference is expected, 50 references or more is better.

If it is a book, the editors/authors, edition, plus all the regular requirements for footnotes or references cited.

You just made a bold statement that was totally unsupported by any scientific evidence. Bring on the quotes from legitimate scientific books and papers, showing that you can spread the virus even with 2 vaccines. I just watched some things that said the exact opposite.

I know that after living with our unvaxed son, his wife & 3 children from May 1 to July 39 this year, they did not give us the virus, nor did we give it to them. Yes, that's anecdotal, of course. But living in close proximity to unvaxed people for 3 months, and them not giving it to us, and vice versa, indicates the vaccine is working properly.

I realize vaxed people can get COVID, but it is so much milder than the unvaxed get. In Canada, we have 99-100% unvaxed in the ICU and slightly less in hospitals 95% unvaxed.

People who have been double vaxed do not get the virus, but when it happens, it is mild 99% of the time.

I still maintain my position that vaccine mandates are wrong. I wish everyone that was able could get vaccinated, but am a realist. There are some people who cannot take the vax, because they are allergic to the basic ingredients in the vax. There are also people who are afraid, have bad information or it is against religious values who do not want to take it. I believe it is dangerous ground to push people and violate their personal autonomy with regards to making them take a medical treatment they can't or won't take.

However, when I see the continual lies posted in this and other forums, it makes me re-examine my position. But so far, I do not believe mandates are proper in a democratic society. Trudeau is going for a majority gov't in Canada (which he will not get, and may not win at all). He wants to be a dictator, and push through mandatory vaccines, and censorship laws. It is appalling, globalism, but stupid people still vote for him!

Welcome to Kanadastan if Trudeau wins!
 

Angela53510

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My leader is God...not any man.

A Christian putting their faith in the government and man and not putting their faith in God....

Really is Ass Backwards....if you're going to say it at least say it right...lol
So how do you account for Paul's instructions in Romans 13?

"Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval,4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience."

Paul is talking about the Roman Empire, not some soft 21st century democracy. Nero was reigning in the 60's AD, Paul could well be talking about his atrocities, but to obey those in authority, even though they were wicked, immoral people -God had still put them in control.

When I think of what fools Biden & Trudeau are, I have to think, "surely not these 2 evil men, God!" But that is what God means. Whether we can expand this to include vaccines is really not acceptable, since this part of medicine was not part of any first century cultures.
 
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Adhradh

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Your lack of science knowledge is showing!
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People who have been double vaxed do not get the virus, but when it happens, it is mild 99% of the time.

I still maintain my position that vaccine mandates are wrong. I wish everyone that was able could get vaccinated, but am a realist. There are some people who cannot take the vax, because they are allergic to the basic ingredients in the vax. There are also people who are afraid, have bad information or it is against religious values who do not want to take it. I believe it is dangerous ground to push people and violate their personal autonomy with regards to making them take a medical treatment they can't or won't take.

However, when I see the continual lies posted in this and other forums, it makes me re-examine my position.
So, ignoring the part where you said you're reconsidering if maybe Governments should have the ability to inject people with something against their will, this sentence I think is the crux of the issue: "There are also people who are afraid, have bad information" - what you're implying is that people who do not want to take this vaccine's information is only wrong. That none of it is correct or could possibly be correct. There's no consideration that information that shows that the vaccination is unsafe exists. It implies that people who don't want to take the vaccine are stupid and uneducated but those who will take it are "science people", very smart. That's such a dangerous road. People are not stupid. People sense there's something wrong here, and the science to back it up exists. It's just censored on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, etc.
If you want to understand some of the ideas why people don't want these vaccines, try watching this video:

https://rumble.com/vijpp5-how-to-sa...ps...covid-19-perspectives-from-an-exper.html
 

1ofthem

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Just to point out that you have missed an essential part of the story of Hezekiah. Yes, he prayed not to die and God answered that prayer.

But because he had 15 extra years, he had a son, who would not have existed should Hezekiah have died earlier, at the time God ordained for him.

That extra son was named Manasseh. He ruled as king for 55 years. And he was the WORST king Judah had. In fact, his reign led to the final fall of Judah.

These are huge implications. The story is not "Hezekiah prayed... God answered!" Simple, done deal!

Instead, it an extremely complicated situation. Hezekiah was selfish to have requested extra years. God knew Hezekiah would have a evil son who would destroy the Kingdom of Judah. Yet, perhaps that was his ultimate plan. So the Jews could be carried to captivity into Babylon, and live there 70 years. Then God would call them back to Jerusalem, to prepare for the incarnation, the first coming of Christ.

So try not to throw out trite examples of healing to prove your point, when you do not begin to understand the complexity of the story beyond a Sunday School level.

Many people are not healed today, despite a total and firm faith in God. God has used physical illness for all kinds of good.

"And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose." Romans 8:28

He certainly has in my life. As for the vax, best thing I did was get the 2 shots. I'm glad I listened to my doctors, and also my son-in-law and Daughter-in -law who are both doctors encourage me to get the protection, I need with my immune system compromised by 2 cancer drugs, for my severe Rheumatoid Arthritis.

"Not only that, but we rejoice in our sufferings, knowing that suffering produces endurance,4 and endurance produces character, and character produces hope,5 and hope does not put us to shame, because God's love has been poured into our hearts through the Holy Spirit who has been given to us." Romans 5:3-5
I was simply stating God can do as he wills. I don't believe there is any need for true Christians to get so upset over this, because God is still in control. It is best to put our faith in him and do as we feel led to do.

I do believe healing is still available, as well. Does God always heal?....No, I don't know why he does sometimes and doesn't other times, but I do know he is still in control of all things. So we really can't go wrong if we put Him first and put our faith and trust in Him.

And yes, we are all going to suffer in this life. Scripture is clear on that...we must suffer to reign with him...Moses chose rather to suffer affliction with the Children of God rather than to enjoy the pleasures of sin for a season.

Now that is something that we all must be prepared to do. Scripture is evident on the things that we will suffer during the end times so, in my opinion, it is high time people get prepared for it.
 

1ofthem

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So how do you account for Paul's instructions in Romans 13?

"Let every person be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and those that exist have been instituted by God. 2 Therefore whoever resists the authorities resists what God has appointed, and those who resist will incur judgment.3 For rulers are not a terror to good conduct, but to bad. Would you have no fear of the one who is in authority? Then do what is good, and you will receive his approval,4 for he is God's servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword in vain. For he is the servant of God, an avenger who carries out God's wrath on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore one must be in subjection, not only to avoid God's wrath but also for the sake of conscience."

Paul is talking about the Roman Empire, not some soft 21st century democracy. Nero was reigning in the 60's AD, Paul could well be talking about his atrocities, but to obey those in authority, even though they were wicked, immoral people -God had still put them in control.

When I think of what fools Biden & Trudeau are, I have to think, "surely not these 2 evil men, God!" But that is what God means. Whether we can expand this to include vaccines is really not acceptable, since this part of medicine was not part of any first century cultures.
Romans 13 is about following the law of the land when it doesn't go against our own morals and spiritual beliefs. Most laws are for our good and the good of the community. However, we still have to follow God above any law of man. It's time to draw a line when the laws go against our beliefs. Paul drew that line as well. He was imprisoned, beaten, and instructed not to preach anymore in the Name of Jesus, yet he still did. The same goes for Daniel and others throughout biblical history.

We also know the future...we've already been warned in Rev. There is coming a time when the antichrist will come and we will be instructed to worship him and take the mark of the beast. If people are not careful they are going to put their faith in Government...not be ready...and in order to get out of suffering in this life some are going to be willing to follow the Government straight to hell.
 

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If I thought Ice melting was a SIN, are you jumping off the same bridge?

I don't care if they think the Vaccination is LUCIFER!
We [ALL] know it is NOT!

I don't care what others think, I care about Truth and Facts!
You follow the science.
 

joaniemarie

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So, ignoring the part where you said you're reconsidering if maybe Governments should have the ability to inject people with something against their will, this sentence I think is the crux of the issue: "There are also people who are afraid, have bad information" - what you're implying is that people who do not want to take this vaccine's information is only wrong. That none of it is correct or could possibly be correct. There's no consideration that information that shows that the vaccination is unsafe exists. It implies that people who don't want to take the vaccine are stupid and uneducated but those who will take it are "science people", very smart. That's such a dangerous road. People are not stupid. People sense there's something wrong here, and the science to back it up exists. It's just censored on YouTube, Twitter, Facebook, etc.
If you want to understand some of the ideas why people don't want these vaccines, try watching this video:

https://rumble.com/vijpp5-how-to-sa...ps...covid-19-perspectives-from-an-exper.html

Thank you for posting this Adhradh., Been listening to it this morning and appreciate the 3 different experiences and perspectives these men represented. I've also listened to many other men and women, doctors and nurses who have been FREE to discuss this subject without being SILENCED by communist run social media. How refreshing!

Millions of Americans STILL refuse to be injected with this vaccine because of it's deadly track record. Making it even MORE suspect to be something to be avoided is the government not allowing us to even discuss the subject on an open forum with other freedom loving people. If this is such a safe wonderful vaccine how come intelligent people are being forced to shut up and take it?

Another sickening aspect about this covid vaccine and how the govt is NOT to be trusted OR obeyed is how millions of illegal immigrants with covid and other illnesses are being ENCOURAGED and allowed to cross our boarders FREELY with the blessings of the biden regime and NO vaccine requirement.

And so the rate of covid illnesses and deaths are higher than normal based on the SCIENCE and common sense. Illegal Immigrants who we know nothing about are infiltrating our country's boarders with the blessing of our CURRENT corrupt evil government and no vaccine necessary .

Vaccines are not required for illegal immigrants and before the biden regime., this covid issue was at one point getting under some control.

NO., we do NOT obey our government in all matters of conscience.

A Christian can submit without obeying an ungodly command. Look at the life of Peter. Peter made some shocking statements in 1 Peter 2:13-14 when he said, “Submit yourselves to every ordinance of man for the Lord’s sake: whether it be to the king, as supreme; Or unto governors, as unto them that are sent by him for the punishment of evildoers, and for the praise of them that do well.”

This was the SAME Peter who refused to obey the chief priests when they commanded him not to speak or teach anymore in the name of Jesus (Acts 4:18-19).

When Peter and the other apostles continued their teaching and preaching about Jesus, the high priest and the Jewish elders imprisoned them. HOWEVER they were SUPERNATURALLY freed from prison by an angel of the Lord who told them to go back to the temple and PREACH AGAIN (Acts 5:17-20).

This command was a direct contradiction to the commands of the Jews.
The Jews again arrested Peter and the other apostles and said (Acts 5:28), “Did not we straitly command you that ye should not teach in this name?” Peter responded by saying,

“We ought to obey God rather than men” (Acts 5:29).

This is always the bottom line. We never obey any person if that would cause us to disobey God. And yet, we are to submit to every ordinance of man (1 Peter 2:13). Submission is an attitude, not an action. It will express itself through actions, but we can have a submissive attitude and yet disobey an ungodly command.

And MOST good citizens WANT to obey laws because a society NEEDS good laws to function. As a Christian woman., I will continue to refuse to take this deadly vaccine but I do however submit to the laws of my land that do not go against the laws of God.
 

joaniemarie

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Some more extremely important information I'm not hearing on any of the MSM news stations here in the U.S. It's always about money and control the the lives of people matter nothing to those evil despots in power. I remember hearing about the people in India dying in the streets about a month ago but lately..... not a word about India. I supposed now that they are getting better and no longer dying it's not news....


"The chief scientist discredited ivermectin in a series of social media posts."
The struggle to have ivermectin, considered one of the wonder drugs in recent memory, as a possible prophylactic and even cure for COVID-19 has taken some twists and turns of late after a group of US-based frontline medical workers openly advocated the drug’s use to battle surging infections worldwide.​

So passionate was this group they even testified before the US Senate as to its efficacy drawing scientists, public health and governments to check all available data on the drug to determine whether it can really be repurposed against COVID-19. It has since gained a growing number of advocates to the point that even without formal endorsement by the World Health Organization (WHO) and despite continued sniping by Big Pharma, a number of governments have included the drug in their COVID- 19 treatment protocols.

The most aggressive ivermectin purveyor was India, immediately after the country suffered unthinkable infections and deaths during its second wave of infections early this year. Having survived quite creditably for most of last year Indian authorities had to scramble for instant treatments to push back the surges after millions got infected during celebrations of one of the religious holidays. This, despite the continued indecision of the WHO and, worse, the interminable and inexcusable anti-ivermectin tweets and advisories from no less that WHO Chief Scientist Dr. Soumya Swarminathan.

As far as the Indian Bar Association (IBA) was concerned, the doctor’s actions were equivalent to issuing a death sentence upon the populace particularly those who were so poor and uneducated who had no way to get the other medical treatments being endorsed by WHO and its experts.

It came as a no surprise therefore that last May 25, the Indian Bar Association (IBA) sued the WHO and its Chief Scientist Dr. Soumya Swaminathan, accusing the agency and its expert in a 71-point brief of causing the deaths of Indian citizens by misleading them about ivermectin.

In an article written by Doctor Justus R. Hope in the publication The Desert review, the IBA through its lead attorney and advocate Ojha accused the WHO and Dr. Swaminathan in Points 60 and 61 as having misled and misguided the Indian people throughout the pandemic not only from the use of masks but more importantly the use of ivermectin.

Said Ohja in his brief: “The world is gradually waking up to your absurd, arbitrary and fallacious approach in presenting concocted facts as ‘scientific approach.’ While the WHO flaunts itself like a ‘know it all,’ it is akin to the vain Emperor in new clothes while the entire world has realized by now, the Emperor has no clothes at all.”

The brief accused the WHO of being complicit in a vast disinformation campaign. Noting in Point 61 that US doctors belonging to the FLCC and UK doctors working under the banner of BIRD “have shown exemplary courage in building a formidable force to tackle the challenge of disinformation, resistance, and rebuke from pharma lobbies and powerful health interests like WHO, NIH, CDC, and regulators like the US FDA.”

Dr. Swaminathan was called out for her malfeasance in discrediting ivermectin to preserve the EUA for the vaccine and pharmaceutical industry. Point 52 reads: “It seems you have deliberately opted for deaths of people to achieve your ulterior goals, and this is sufficient grounds for criminal prosecution against you.”

Noting that Dr. Swaminathan had since deleted her now-infamous tweet, the IBA advised that “deleting the tweet will not save Dr. Soumya and her associates from the criminal prosecution which is to be launched by the citizens under Section 302 of the Indian Penal Code with active support from the Indian Bar Association...for murder of each person dying due to obstruction in treatment of COVID 19 patient effectively by ivermectin...”Punishment under this section 302 is death penalty or life imprisonment.



Deleting the tweet, Ohja added, only proved the hollowness of the WHO’s recommendation against ivermectin. It amounted, Ohja noted, to brazen dishonesty on the part of WHO and the act of Doctor Soumya of deleting the tweet after being witnessed by millions around the world only proved her “mala fide intentions.”

Ohja advised that Doctor Somya was being charged “for each death caused by her acts of commission and omission” and grave misconduct by using her position as a health authority to “further the agenda of special interests to maintain an EUA (Emergency Use Authorization) for the lucrative vaccine industry.”

Ohja noted that the state of Tamil Nadu publicly relied upon Dr. Swaminathan's advice in revoking their initial choice of ivermectin the day after she recommended against it in her May 10 tweet on social media. As a direct result, Tamil Nadu experienced a surge in COVID death and sickness that continues to this day.

He then contrasted the fate of Tamil Nadu with that of other Indian states which continued to use ivermectin noting that “the entire world witnessed the effectiveness of ivermectin against India’s deadly second surge as the locations that adopted it saw their outbreaks quickly extinguished in stark contrast to those states that did not...” The article noted that among the most prominent examples include the Ivermectin areas of Delhi, Uttar Pradesh, Uttarakhand, and Goa where cases dropped 98%, 97%, 94%, and 86%, respectively, in contrast to Tamil Nadu where their cases skyrocketed and rose to the highest in India and deaths increased ten-fold.

Specifically, Ojha noted in Point 56 of his brief that Doctor Soumpya’s “...misleading tweet on May 10, 2021, against the use of ivermectin had the effect of the State of Tamil Nadu withdrawing ivermectin from the protocol on May 11, 2021, just a day after the Tamil Nadu government had indicated the same for the treatment of COVID-19 patients.”

Among others, the IBA brief charged Doctor Soumya and by extension, the WHO, of “running of a disinformation campaign against ivermectin and issuing statements in social and mainstream media to wrongfully influence the public against the use of ivermectin despite the existence of large amounts of clinical data showing its profound effectiveness in both prevention and treatment of COVID-19.”

To bolster the case, Hope’s article noted that the IBA “referenced the peer-reviewed publications and evidence compiled by the ten-member Front Line COVID-19 Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC) group and the 65-member British Ivermectin Recommendation Development (BIRD) panel headed by WHO consultant and meta-analysis expert Dr. Tess Lawrie.”

The IBA also cited previous articles published in the Desert Review which included, among others, US Attorney Ralph C. Lorigo’s hospital cases in New York where court orders were required for dying COVID patients to receive ivermectin. In multiple instances of such comatose patients, following the court-ordered ivermectin, the patients recovered.

The brief accused the WHO of being complicit in a vast disinformation campaign. In Point 61 of its brief, the IBA stated, “The FLCCC and the BIRD have shown exemplary courage in building a formidable force to tackle the challenge of disinformation, resistance, and rebuke from pharma lobbies and powerful health interests like WHO, NIH, CDC, and regulators like the US FDA.”

Dr. Swaminathan was called out for her malfeasance in discrediting ivermectin to preserve the EUA for the vaccine and pharmaceutical industry. It seems, the brief emphasized, that “you have deliberately opted for deaths of people to achieve your ulterior goals, and this is sufficient grounds for criminal prosecution against you.” Punishment under Section 302 of the Indian penal Code is death penalty or life imprisonment. With this development, the road is now clear for individuals and even states to proceed with the criminal prosecution of public health officials who, either by commission or omission, cause the death of Covid 19 infected individuals.

As the IBA brief clearly stated: “It will send a powerful signal that disinformation campaigns resulting in death carry consequences. Perhaps this pathway will ultimately break the disinformation and censorship stranglehold around repurposed drug use to save lives. Maybe we will witness other countries following India’s example, both in medicine and in law.”

Topics: J.A. Dela Cruz , ivermectin , COVID-19 , World Health Organization , WHO , Dr. Soumya Swarminathan , Indian Bar Association
 

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The only person I know who is convinced the Lord told him no harm would come from the vaccination had to break eye contact with me and look down when he said that.
That's probably because most of those you know don't understand what the Vaccination is doing and still assume it is bad. For those who know what the Vaccination is doing, and understands it actually is SAFE to the Majority of Genetics, they would wonder why you Feel God told you not to.
 

AandW

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You follow the science.

I follow God first and then the [only thing] outside of God Himself, but in concern to what is truthful on planet Earth, would be the Mathematics.
Mathematics cannot lie.
If the solution is correct, the Mathematics will ALWAYS equal out to prove it.
If the Mathematics cannot prove the Chemistry and Biological Subsequences, then it is always wrong.

It's why Einstein and especially Galileo claimed, God used Mathematics like an Alphabet to Create the Universe, because [ALL of IT] is in Perfect Harmony!

I NEVER trust Science!

But as one Familiar with Mathematical Concepts and Formulas, I have a good idea when Science is Legit versus when it is Not.

The Vaccine, which is designed to MASK the Binary to ALL Building Block Sequence, so the Covid, cannot copy and seek out WEAK Genetics to attack. The Mathematics do ALIGN with this Concept between Chemistry and Biology. The Math really is Spot on in what this Vaccination is Designed [Supposed] to do!


But I must ask of You,
Why do you think this Vaccine is Connected to Satan?
Show me in Scripture where Medicine is the Connection point to Satan becoming Ruler of the Word during God's Wrath and is how the Mark of the Beast is Administered into the ARM before [[MAGICALLY travelling]] to the Right Hand or ForeHead?
 

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But I must ask of You,
Why do you think this Vaccine is Connected to Satan?
Show me in Scripture where Medicine is the Connection point to Satan becoming Ruler of the Word during God's Wrath and is how the Mark of the Beast is Administered into the ARM before [[MAGICALLY travelling]] to the Right Hand or ForeHead?
I don't believe at all that the vaccine is connected to Satan. I all concur with your estimation of math. Mathematics is the language of God.