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If a Christian gets vaccinated for the covid Is this a lack of faith?

  • Getting the vaccination means the Christian lacks faith.

  • Getting the vaccination demonstrates love thy neighbor.

  • Other,I will explain.


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Some believe that getting vaccinated for the covid shows fear and a lack of faith and some believe that since GOD Is almighty,getting the vaccine even If It kills them shows love for their neighbor protecting them from the covid and GOD will look at their motivation for getting the shot.JESUS died for us and love covers a multitude of sins.
They want all people to take the vaccination.

There is more to the vaccine than fighting the coronavirus.

It is a precursor to the mark of the beast which will develop in to all information about a person inside of them.

Eventually they will say you cannot go to work, and cannot go to the store, or cannot go anywhere unless you have a vaccination card.

Which will lead to a chip inside them with all information about them on the chip that can be scanned and easier to deal with than carrying a vaccination card, credit card, and whatever card they carry.

It is all leading to that starting with the coronavirus.

Also they probably do not want the vaccination to work out that well so they can go to nanotechnology and start tracking people which will cause many to take the chip to be tracked for they are already being tracked anyway which is a better tracking system and information about them.

There is more to the vaccine than fighting the coronavirus.

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

chi xi stigma
khee xee stig'-ma
The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.

stigma
stig'-mah
From a primary word στίζω stizō (to “stick”, that is, prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), that is, (figuratively) scar of service: - mark.

The mark will be a device that is put under the skin for the definition is to stick, prick ,and a mark incised or punched which is referring it to be put in something which is under the skin for the mark is given to people.

The vaccination is going to lead it in that direction.

Why the world rebels against God.

1. Evolution.

2. Gave birth to the new age movement that interprets the Bible, and religions according to the occult and evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual.

3. The occult believes in astrology, horoscope, and this is the age of Aquarius the age of peace so they will try to pursue that peace on earth for they believe nature would want them to do that so they will harmonize the nations governments and religions with all religions interpreted according to the new age movement.

4. They do not believe the New Age Christ will help them to evolve and have peace until the nations come together as one and work for peace on earth a global government and global religion so they will work on that.

5. The New Age Christ will be of the new age movement and the occult and when he works in the world he will push the agenda of the new age movement until the world rebels against God.

6. Technology that caused them to be able to communicate with each other to come together but it is not according to the will of God.

The new age movement the beginning of the end.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

God warns the saints of the new age movement, and their interpretation of the Bible based on the occult, and evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual provided by the New Age Christ, and Jesus is not Lord and Savior, but a good teacher and love, and the Christ conscience came upon him, and he evolved to be an ascended master, and believe in no personal God, but honor the God of forces, or the power of nature as their higher power, the evolutionary process, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher, and he will evolve to be greater than Jesus, and share this power with all people who follow him.

They will forbid to marry for a man and a woman for population reduction, and command to abstain from meats, reverence of nature, mother earth.

The new age movement will pave the way to the beast kingdom for all people who do not love God where they will take the mark of the beast, and then repentance and salvation are no longer available to the world, and God will end sin on earth, and have His people will Him.

2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables(2 Timothy 4:2-4).

The time will come when the world will not want to hear the truth of the Bible, but want to hear it according to their own lusts the new age movement.

The New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East, and work as a great man of peace, and push the agenda of the new age movement in the world to prepare the world for when he claims to be God by harnessing the power of nature, and evolving, and will share this power with all people who follow him.

Alice Bailey the biggest prophet of the new age movement wrote many books speaking of the coming united religious system, one world government, and New Age Christ, and other occult things, and they set up a web site lucistrust.org promoting her books and writing which she interpreted the Bible according to the occult and evolution.

She was married to a Freemason who agreed with her writing, so he is of the inner circle of Freemason, which there is an inner circle and outer circle of the occult, and Alice Bailey said the inner circle is the true church.

The inner circle is too extreme in the occult for mainstream society so they put out a lighter version an outer circle that is more tolerable to the people to get them interested in a light version of the occult.

When the New Age Christ establishes peace in the Middle East he will push the agenda of the new age movement and the people will lust more for power through nature and when the New Age Christ claims to be God and to set up his kingdom the outer circle became the inner circle and the beast kingdom will be accepted by those who do not keep the commandments of God, and the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The new age movement has an inner circle as well as Freemason, and the Mormon church, and Scientology, and Christian Science, and churches who have great deception such as them as well as many occult groups.

They are trying to get the world to go in the direction of the New Age Christ kingdom so that Lucifer can set up a kingdom which they believe Lucifer will help people to evolve spiritually.

The esoteric meaning of Lucifer, how they interpret the Bible.

There are comments on the World Wide Web claiming that the Lucis Trust was once called the Lucifer Trust. Such was never the case. However, for a brief period of two or three years in the early 1920’s, when Alice and Foster Bailey were beginning to publish the books published under her name, they named their fledgling publishing company “Lucifer Publishing Company”. By 1925 the name was changed to Lucis Publishing Company and has remained so ever since.Both “Lucifer” and “Lucis” come from the same word root, lucis being the Latin generative case meaning of light. The Baileys' reasons for choosing the original name are not known to us, but we can only surmise that they, like the great teacher H.P. Blavatsky, for whom they had enormous respect, sought to elicit a deeper understanding of the sacrifice made by Lucifer. Alice and Foster Bailey were serious students and teachers of Theosophy, a spiritual tradition which views Lucifer as one of the solar Angels, those advanced Beings Who Theosophy says descended (thus “the fall”) from Venus to our planet eons ago to bring the principle of mind to what was then animal-man. In the theosophical perspective, the descent of these solar Angels was not a fall into sin or disgrace but rather an act of great sacrifice, as is suggested in the name “Lucifer” which means light-bearer.

The vaccination is all part of the plan of the new age movement for it is a precursor to the mark of the beast.
 

AandW

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They want all people to take the vaccination.

There is more to the vaccine than fighting the coronavirus.

It is a precursor to the mark of the beast which will develop in to all information about a person inside of them.

Eventually they will say you cannot go to work, and cannot go to the store, or cannot go anywhere unless you have a vaccination card.

Which will lead to a chip inside them with all information about them on the chip that can be scanned and easier to deal with than carrying a vaccination card, credit card, and whatever card they carry.

It is all leading to that starting with the coronavirus.

Also they probably do not want the vaccination to work out that well so they can go to nanotechnology and start tracking people which will cause many to take the chip to be tracked for they are already being tracked anyway which is a better tracking system and information about them.

There is more to the vaccine than fighting the coronavirus.

Rev 13:18 Here is wisdom. Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast: for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six.

chi xi stigma
khee xee stig'-ma
The 22nd, 14th and an obsolete letter (G4742 as a cross) of the Greek alphabet (intermediate between the 5th and 6th), used as numbers; denoting respectively 600, 60 and 6; 666 as a numeral: - six hundred threescore and six.

stigma
stig'-mah
From a primary word στίζω stizō (to “stick”, that is, prick); a mark incised or punched (for recognition of ownership), that is, (figuratively) scar of service: - mark.

The mark will be a device that is put under the skin for the definition is to stick, prick ,and a mark incised or punched which is referring it to be put in something which is under the skin for the mark is given to people.

The vaccination is going to lead it in that direction.

Why the world rebels against God.

1. Evolution.

2. Gave birth to the new age movement that interprets the Bible, and religions according to the occult and evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual.

3. The occult believes in astrology, horoscope, and this is the age of Aquarius the age of peace so they will try to pursue that peace on earth for they believe nature would want them to do that so they will harmonize the nations governments and religions with all religions interpreted according to the new age movement.

4. They do not believe the New Age Christ will help them to evolve and have peace until the nations come together as one and work for peace on earth a global government and global religion so they will work on that.

5. The New Age Christ will be of the new age movement and the occult and when he works in the world he will push the agenda of the new age movement until the world rebels against God.

6. Technology that caused them to be able to communicate with each other to come together but it is not according to the will of God.

The new age movement the beginning of the end.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils;
1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;
1Ti 4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
1Ti 4:4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing to be refused, if it be received with thanksgiving:
1Ti 4:5 For it is sanctified by the word of God and prayer.

God warns the saints of the new age movement, and their interpretation of the Bible based on the occult, and evolution, and people are still evolving to be spiritual provided by the New Age Christ, and Jesus is not Lord and Savior, but a good teacher and love, and the Christ conscience came upon him, and he evolved to be an ascended master, and believe in no personal God, but honor the God of forces, or the power of nature as their higher power, the evolutionary process, and the New Age Christ is the final teacher, and he will evolve to be greater than Jesus, and share this power with all people who follow him.

They will forbid to marry for a man and a woman for population reduction, and command to abstain from meats, reverence of nature, mother earth.

The new age movement will pave the way to the beast kingdom for all people who do not love God where they will take the mark of the beast, and then repentance and salvation are no longer available to the world, and God will end sin on earth, and have His people will Him.

2 Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine.
3 For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears;
4 And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables(2 Timothy 4:2-4).

The time will come when the world will not want to hear the truth of the Bible, but want to hear it according to their own lusts the new age movement.

The New Age Christ will establish peace in the Middle East, and work as a great man of peace, and push the agenda of the new age movement in the world to prepare the world for when he claims to be God by harnessing the power of nature, and evolving, and will share this power with all people who follow him.

Alice Bailey the biggest prophet of the new age movement wrote many books speaking of the coming united religious system, one world government, and New Age Christ, and other occult things, and they set up a web site lucistrust.org promoting her books and writing which she interpreted the Bible according to the occult and evolution.

She was married to a Freemason who agreed with her writing, so he is of the inner circle of Freemason, which there is an inner circle and outer circle of the occult, and Alice Bailey said the inner circle is the true church.

The inner circle is too extreme in the occult for mainstream society so they put out a lighter version an outer circle that is more tolerable to the people to get them interested in a light version of the occult.

When the New Age Christ establishes peace in the Middle East he will push the agenda of the new age movement and the people will lust more for power through nature and when the New Age Christ claims to be God and to set up his kingdom the outer circle became the inner circle and the beast kingdom will be accepted by those who do not keep the commandments of God, and the testimony of Jesus Christ.

The new age movement has an inner circle as well as Freemason, and the Mormon church, and Scientology, and Christian Science, and churches who have great deception such as them as well as many occult groups.

They are trying to get the world to go in the direction of the New Age Christ kingdom so that Lucifer can set up a kingdom which they believe Lucifer will help people to evolve spiritually.

The esoteric meaning of Lucifer, how they interpret the Bible.

There are comments on the World Wide Web claiming that the Lucis Trust was once called the Lucifer Trust. Such was never the case. However, for a brief period of two or three years in the early 1920’s, when Alice and Foster Bailey were beginning to publish the books published under her name, they named their fledgling publishing company “Lucifer Publishing Company”. By 1925 the name was changed to Lucis Publishing Company and has remained so ever since.Both “Lucifer” and “Lucis” come from the same word root, lucis being the Latin generative case meaning of light. The Baileys' reasons for choosing the original name are not known to us, but we can only surmise that they, like the great teacher H.P. Blavatsky, for whom they had enormous respect, sought to elicit a deeper understanding of the sacrifice made by Lucifer. Alice and Foster Bailey were serious students and teachers of Theosophy, a spiritual tradition which views Lucifer as one of the solar Angels, those advanced Beings Who Theosophy says descended (thus “the fall”) from Venus to our planet eons ago to bring the principle of mind to what was then animal-man. In the theosophical perspective, the descent of these solar Angels was not a fall into sin or disgrace but rather an act of great sacrifice, as is suggested in the name “Lucifer” which means light-bearer.

The vaccination is all part of the plan of the new age movement for it is a precursor to the mark of the beast.
I know all of the Ingredients listed in the Vaccine Stew.
Can you show me which specific Ingredients [Will Be] capable of fulfilling all of these LIES you claim will result from the Vaccination?

How can my DNA be read ANY DIFFERENTLY than through actual Blood Work [literally drawing blood from a VEIN]?

[ARE] They going to take Blood from us next?

That's the ONLY TRUE way to know if someone is Vaxxed or Not!
 

joaniemarie

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Not only does this evil biden regime want us to get a deadly vaccine., they are allowing MORE innocent people to be killed at the hands of the Taliban. I do not believe or accept ANYTHING this current administration has to offer.

 

John146

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John146

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I know all of the Ingredients listed in the Vaccine Stew.
Can you show me which specific Ingredients [Will Be] capable of fulfilling all of these LIES you claim will result from the Vaccination?

How can my DNA be read ANY DIFFERENTLY than through actual Blood Work [literally drawing blood from a VEIN]?

[ARE] They going to take Blood from us next?

That's the ONLY TRUE way to know if someone is Vaxxed or Not!
I believe he’s stating that it is a precursor of things to come. You do agree, don’t you?
 

joaniemarie

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No Vaccine Rules for Big U.N. Meeting: Free Pass for World Leaders

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/...-big-u-n-meeting-free-pass-for-world-leaders/

Do as I say just don't do as I do?

So we find out through conservative news sources that have to sneak the information out to the masses that the elite of the world can say NO to getting this "safe" vaccine because THEY are allowed to exercise CHOICE in the matter.

But us regular taxpaying working individuals must OBEY and bend to vaccine mandates and vaccine passports in order to be allowed to work and go out into our own society?

Again I must ask those here who are defending this vaccine and those who are forcing it upon us..... if it was so great and so safe and so life saving why do those who have education, money and means avoid it like the plague? Why are they allowed to say NO and we are NOT allowed to do anything but obey?
 

AandW

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So we find out through conservative news sources that have to sneak the information out to the masses that the elite of the world can say NO to getting this "safe" vaccine because THEY are allowed to exercise CHOICE in the matter.

But us regular taxpaying working individuals must OBEY and bend to vaccine mandates and vaccine passports in order to be allowed to work and go out into our own society?

Again I must ask those here who are defending this vaccine and those who are forcing it upon us..... if it was so great and so safe and so life saving why do those who have education, money and means avoid it like the plague? Why are they allowed to say NO and we are NOT allowed to do anything but obey?
No matter who we are, Left, Right, Middle, Believer in God or Atheist, [[WE]] all believe this Covid (Virus or Bio-Weapon) is REAL and it really is killing human beings all over the World/Planet Earth.

Every Democrat in Congress/the House and Senate have ALL produced PROOF of being Vaccinated!
BUT
Every Republican in Congress/the House and Senate have [[ONLY]] reported
30% being Vaccinated.

So, the Democrats that are saying [THEY won't Force the White House Members to show Proof and be Mandated], are actually saying, THEY are letting the ***{{REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF THE WHITE HOUSE}}*** have a pass on this Mandate.

EVERY WHITE HOUSE DEMOCRAT HAS THEIR VACCINE PASSPORT ON FILE!
It's Documented and can be reviewed by anyone.
 

AandW

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The common every day Folk, Republicans, think Biden is directing this Mandate at them.
But in the White House, the only ONES not showing Proof of Vaccine Passport are the Republicans [30% revealed out 100%]
How can Biden be attacking the REPUBLICAN Common Folk, if he is NOT attacking their REPUBLICAN WHITE HOUSE LEADERS?

Appears [that] both Common Democrat and Republican Folk are being Mandated while the [Republican White House] is EXEMPT from the Mandate!

MANDATE = a typical Friday Evening setting in Ancient Sodom!
 

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I would not be surprised if not a one of them have been vaccinated. Maybe a saline solution for the press.
Of course they haven't, and neither has all of Washington...on both sides, REGARDLESS of what some say (even here)...
 

Nehemiah6

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...this Covid (Virus or Bio-Weapon) is REAL and it really is killing human beings all over the World/Planet Earth.
Only because the very cheap and very effective remedies and treatments were FIRST deliberately sabotaged! In spite of that the real death rate (after adjusting for bogus over-inflation) is generally 0.1% or less! Many diseases have a much higher death rate.

It is not coronavirus that is the real hazard but the bogus vaccines created to reap billions of dollars while killing millions of people. No one really knows the total number of deaths resulting from these injections, since the data is either not being reported or being under-reported (the opposite of the coronavirus agenda).
 

joaniemarie

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Only because the very cheap and very effective remedies and treatments were FIRST deliberately sabotaged! In spite of that the real death rate (after adjusting for bogus over-inflation) is generally 0.1% or less! Many diseases have a much higher death rate.

It is not coronavirus that is the real hazard but the bogus vaccines created to reap billions of dollars while killing millions of people. No one really knows the total number of deaths resulting from these injections, since the data is either not being reported or being under-reported (the opposite of the coronavirus agenda).
Agree., I believe NOTHING this government and our so called republican representatives puts out there anymore. I hear republicans right along with the democrats making sure they let EVERYONE know they are vaccinated as if this is some sort of badge or "proof" they are not anti-vaccine kooks.

These politicians do not represent me or millions of other Americans who are appalled at how republicans turned on all of us in November. Our votes were stolen and our country has been losing ever since. The biden regime has continued down the path of doing just what they please without repercussions just as they have always done until President Trump came on the scene. Only now it's off the charts.

Million of illegals are crossing once closed and secured boarders now wide open because of the biden regime allowing all hell to break lose on us. The so called republicans do nothing but sit in Congress arguing with each other about asinine subjects like the green new deal. The news shows have these republicans on and have discussions about the unfairness of it all but none of these politicians do ANYTHING.

As far as I'm concerned President Trump was the ONLY man who pulled people and republicans together in Washington. He forced lazy rotten politicians with his bold straightforward approach with the American public to do the job of representing the American people., He called them out for their political thievery against taxpayers., Trump caused the crooks in Washington to be seen for what they are....Lazy selfish greedy thieves stealing from the American people.

Only God can save America., the last country on earth that stood for freedom and democracy. It's still amazing to read people on this thread to defend any of these rotten politicians AND to get on board with them against their fellow Americans about forcing us to get this deadly vaccine.
 

joaniemarie

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No matter who we are, Left, Right, Middle, Believer in God or Atheist, [[WE]] all believe this Covid (Virus or Bio-Weapon) is REAL and it really is killing human beings all over the World/Planet Earth.

Every Democrat in Congress/the House and Senate have ALL produced PROOF of being Vaccinated!
BUT
Every Republican in Congress/the House and Senate have [[ONLY]] reported
30% being Vaccinated.

So, the Democrats that are saying [THEY won't Force the White House Members to show Proof and be Mandated], are actually saying, THEY are letting the ***{{REPUBLICAN MEMBERS OF THE WHITE HOUSE}}*** have a pass on this Mandate.

EVERY WHITE HOUSE DEMOCRAT HAS THEIR VACCINE PASSPORT ON FILE!
It's Documented and can be reviewed by anyone.

You're a hopeless cause (right now) because you have drank in the propaganda and it has fermented in your brain like a sponge after it sucks up spilled liquid on a table. There's no room left to give you anything else. You trust the MSM and you propagate (spread and promote) it's deadly false information. Only God can open your eyes to what is happening in our country.
 
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Agree., I believe NOTHING this government and our so called republican representatives puts out there anymore. I hear republicans right along with the democrats making sure they let EVERYONE know they are vaccinated as if this is some sort of badge or "proof" they are not anti-vaccine kooks.

These politicians do not represent me or millions of other Americans who are appalled at how republicans turned on all of us in November. Our votes were stolen and our country has been losing ever since. The biden regime has continued down the path of doing just what they please without repercussions just as they have always done until President Trump came on the scene. Only now it's off the charts.

Million of illegals are crossing once closed and secured boarders now wide open because of the biden regime allowing all hell to break lose on us. The so called republicans do nothing but sit in Congress arguing with each other about asinine subjects like the green new deal. The news shows have these republicans on and have discussions about the unfairness of it all but none of these politicians do ANYTHING.

As far as I'm concerned President Trump was the ONLY man who pulled people and republicans together in Washington. He forced lazy rotten politicians with his bold straightforward approach with the American public to do the job of representing the American people., He called them out for their political thievery against taxpayers., Trump caused the crooks in Washington to be seen for what they are....Lazy selfish greedy thieves stealing from the American people.

Only God can save America., the last country on earth that stood for freedom and democracy. It's still amazing to read people on this thread to defend any of these rotten politicians AND to get on board with them against their fellow Americans about forcing us to get this deadly vaccine.
God will not save America, that is not his mission. His mission is to watch you suffer and die, and see how you do, with his door open for your soul, if you wish to join. If you want to save your country, you need a timemachine and start mobilizing people, and get involved in politics, in 1985. Or get involved now, help somebody else get involved. Make a new party. Otherwise I would advice you to become dispassionate about it and just enjoy life.

Was there ever freedom and democracy in the US? Not really, and there are more freedom and democracy in all of europe.