WAS BENJAMIN BORN AFTER JOSEPH WAS SOLD INTO SLAVERY OR BEFORE?
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I do not think this is a possibility because of the events recorded in chapter 37 and the certification of the age of Joseph at the beginning of the chapter. The reason they are in Bethel in the first place is because of the events that took place at Succoth in chapter 34. It was in 34 that Dianh was violated and [FONT=Times New Roman, serif]Simeon and Levi[/FONT] destroyed the city. The sequence of events from chapters 34 and 37 are the result of cause and effect.
Peace be with you dear friends, and the one who posted this tread asks when was Benjamin born?
Was he born during the time Joseph was still with his family?
Or was he born during the time when and while Joseph was in Egypt, away from his family.?
Why was Joseph so eager to see Benjamin after seeing all his other brothers, while he was governor of Egypt?
Is it because he has never seen Benjamin at all, even Benjamin's birth?
Or was he making sure that his other brothers have not killed also Benjamin?
Thank you and may GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST help and bless you all.
Was he born during the time Joseph was still with his family?
Or was he born during the time when and while Joseph was in Egypt, away from his family.?
Why was Joseph so eager to see Benjamin after seeing all his other brothers, while he was governor of Egypt?
Is it because he has never seen Benjamin at all, even Benjamin's birth?
Or was he making sure that his other brothers have not killed also Benjamin?
Thank you and may GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST help and bless you all.
Peace be with you beloved JaumeJ and oldhermit and thank you and may GOD the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST bless for your loving kind answers. My posted question was to bring back the initial posted tread's question to be answered simply to the one who have posted them. Because the discussion have gone out of initial question context into other beneficial illustrations for others and there is nothing wrong with that. Again thank you for your loving support and dear sir oldmerit, please do not get tired to explain to those who have apologize for missing out on the answer when suddenly they have come in during their busyness. i know this is a tiring duty and we may weary you at time or times but please do not give up abiding in GOD's Love in CHRIST and the HOLY SPIRIT written in the Holy Scripture, because of the Grace and Truth given by CHRIST says that 'a multitude of our sins have been forgiven and so show grace onto others and that has been my corrections of GOD of 'lawlessness' day by day and freely freely i humbly and in humility share the Love of GOD with others. i am just an unworthy and undeserving servant just doing my duty to encourage others the FATHER's Word in the name of LORD JESUS CHRIST. We all individually have to give an account about ourselves on judgement day. And when we have received the Word today that either excuse us or accuses us, it is better to work and struggle with the LORD as Jacob did and receive the help blessing while remaining gloomy and sad due to being unable to do what GOD called us to do. We may be leaders or elders but we must remember that we are dealing with GOD's lambs and sheep. As it is written; "If anyone causes any of My little ones to sin, it is better for a rock to be tied on that person and have him thrown into the ocean." i receive this scary Holy Scripture corrections everyday in order not to fall into 'lawlessness' that is due to be condemned as on judgement day, and for the meantime of Grace and Truth, it is also written; "HE corrects the ones HE loves." Like an earthly parent correct their children for their own good. May the Good GOD of Israel, the FATHER of our LORD JESUS CHRIST forgive us and help us in all our weaknesses.
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do not get me wrong olderhermit, I do believed that Benjamin was born before Joseph was sold into slavery,
but I do not think it was clearly answered.
first the age of Jacob when he fled Esau was based on the assumption that Joseph storehouse was built for only a year...(containing supply for 7 years of famine) What if it took Joseph 2 years or more. (first assumption)
2nd In one of your post you reckoned that Joseph and Zebulon were about the same age, then in another you quote another one that shows Dinah had to be born first. (two possibilities)
3rd we do not know how long they have stayed in Shalem? (duration more likely to be an assumption)
4th the argument that 37 is a continuation of 35 without considering 36 a continuation of 37:
Gen 36:31 And these are the kings that reigned in the land of Edom, before there reigned any king over the children of Israel.
Also, Chapter 37 reckon that Jacob dwell in the land...of Canaan... which he did beginning in Shalem. (what if Joseph was sold while they were in Shalem) just an assumption.
all I am trying to say is; it would be better if we have a Solid evidence to support this belief..
but I do not think it was clearly answered.
first the age of Jacob when he fled Esau was based on the assumption that Joseph storehouse was built for only a year...(containing supply for 7 years of famine) What if it took Joseph 2 years or more. (first assumption)
2nd In one of your post you reckoned that Joseph and Zebulon were about the same age, then in another you quote another one that shows Dinah had to be born first. (two possibilities)
3rd we do not know how long they have stayed in Shalem? (duration more likely to be an assumption)
4th the argument that 37 is a continuation of 35 without considering 36 a continuation of 37:
Gen 36:31 And these are the kings that reigned in the land of Edom, before there reigned any king over the children of Israel.
Also, Chapter 37 reckon that Jacob dwell in the land...of Canaan... which he did beginning in Shalem. (what if Joseph was sold while they were in Shalem) just an assumption.
all I am trying to say is; it would be better if we have a Solid evidence to support this belief..
Fabulous job hermit. I don't even want to call you old because some might think that takes away from your greatness, but just magnificent reading and understanding of the text. I've taught through Genesis and I've taken Genesis as a class in college and I've read numerous commentaries on Genesis, but I've learned some things from your work, thank you.