What Do You Know About Demons? (article I found interesting)

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Elizabeth619

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Did Jesus' disciples study demons? They encountered them, they cast them out, but where does it say we need to study them?
I'm pretty sure the apostles were educated in the subject. Whether it was more of being enlightened or other means of knowledge I'm pretty sure the apostles didn't randomly cast out demons no knowing what they were doing.
Again, if this topic makes you uncomfortable then don't enter the thread.
 
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The Apostles had JESUS with them..and when JESUS ascended, the Holy Spirit took over. Same for anyone today....all we need to know about demons is in the BIBLE..period. I have written a book about them...but all my information came directly from GOD's own WORD...all I did was take away the 16th century lingo and put it in today's vernacular. We do not have to try to 'study" demons. JESUS spoke more of hell and demons than HE did of angels and heaven. Most CHRISTIANS simply ignore the 'heavy" topic and move on to other things in the BIBLE. We do not have to take a special course or private study of demons to be an effective CHRISTIAN. We do need to be aware of our enemy and his tactics...in order that when we confront those demons, we know exactly what to do and how to make them flee..It is not rocket science..it's walking daily in HIS spirit. The Holy spirit within us, the KINGDOM of GOD within us, and the full armor of GOD that we should be wearing will produce victory over any demon or demons! There is NOTHING To fear, in CHRIST. We do not need to "HOLLYWOOD" demons. They are already conquered by what JESUS did on the cross. They do not have the keys to hell anymore. They may vex and try to divert our mission. Heck...JESUS Himself was approached by satan himself..so who are we to think we can't be? We have the right POWER on our side!
 
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Jesus said Satan desired to sift Simon as wheat, I wouldnt think we couldnt be but find it interesting how he does that.

We dont want to be ignorant of his devices
 

Elizabeth619

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Ok tonight is seriously not the night I need to have discussions.
 
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I see a constant thing going on in CC these days. Where people want to avoid certain topics because we should only concentrate on this or that. Well, if God wanted us uninformed about demons or any other topic then they wouldn't be in scripture. The article posts bible verses to back up his claims and whether some want to admit it or not it IS something that needs to be studied. Every bit of info in the article can be found in scripture. We aren't talking about other books. We aren't talking about worshipping demons here. We are talking about being properly educated so we aren't astray. We can easily be misinformed about Satan, demons, sin ect and it will still put our souls in danger.

I have seen people come on here claiming they are possessed by the devil because they don't know any different. I have seen people on here follow cult leaders because they were never educated on actual evil. If one doesn't want to discuss the topic then don't it's simple, but it's not something that should be outright avoided.
Tennessee I think you grabbed on to a heck of a topic....... So, here comes my hay loft idea straight out of the barn........
If you believe that there is a God, in His Son, the Holy Spirit and scripture, then you have to believe in the "demonic" portion of it.. There's no choice.. Who and what the demons are, that can be argued forever till we finally know the truth.. But the talk of demons goes all the way through to the book of revelations... Are demons prominent today, I think they definitely are... The difference is in the old testament and new testament times it really wasn't hard to distinguish them, they stood out like a stalk of corn in a cotton field. But things have changed so much nowadays, lines have become so blurred when It comes to society, people, tolerance, beliefs and Scripture, I think their presence is much more difficult to pinpoint.. But one thing, knowledge is power... And although the Bible might not be exactly specific in the area of how we are to deal with these rascals, the Bible does tell us where our power comes from and what our prayers, faith and love can accomplish for ourselves and especially for others....
 
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Ahwatukee

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Hello Elisabeth,

Well, in regards to who demons are, we know that demons are just another designation for fallen angels. Consider the following:

"3. Then another sign appeared in heaven: a huge red dragon with seven heads, ten horns, and seven royal crowns on his heads. 4. His tail swept a third of the stars from the sky, tossing them to the earth."

Regarding the above, we know that the "Stars" are symbolic here for fallen angels, as they are identified as such in the following scripture. In fact Rev.12:1-6 is a summary, where Rev.12:7-17 is a detailed account:

"7. Then a war broke out in heaven: Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon and his angels fought back. 8. But the dragon was not strong enough, and no longer was any place found in heaven for him and his angels. 9. And the great dragon was hurled down—the ancient serpent called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him.

The "dragon" in verse 3 is identified in verse 9 as "the ancient serpent called the devil and Satan" and the "stars" mentioned in verse 4 that the dragon's tail which tosses them to the earth are identified in verses 7-9 as "Satan's angels." For a little more information regarding demons being another designation for fallen angels, consider the following:

"They had tails with stingers like scorpions, which had the power to injure people for five months. 11They were ruled by a king, the angel of the abyss. His name in Hebrew is Abaddon, and in Greek it is Apollyon." (Both mean Destroyer)

The above is an excerpt from the 5th trumpet, where that "star/angel" opens the Abyss and lets out those demonic beings described as representing locusts, like horses prepared for battle, teeth like lions teeth, hair like women's hair, tails and stings like that of a scorpion. These are also demonic beings who are let out of the Abyss at the sounding of the 5th trumpet and their king is said to be the "angel" of the Abyss, which is non other than the beast who will come up out of the Abyss.

Other designations for fallen angels/demons are unclean spirits and familiar spirits. There are other fallen angels spoken of by Peter and Jude, who have been restricted in a place often misinterpreted as "Hell" called "Tartaroo/Tartarus." I personally believe that, these are the angels who are briefly mentioned in Gen.6:1, referred to as "the son's of God," also called "The watchers" by Enoch, who took wives from the progeny of mankind and so defiled themselves, they being 200 in number were restricted under the earth until the great white throne judgment:

"For if God did not spare the angels when they sinned, but cast them into Tartaroo, delivering them in chains to be held in gloomy darkness until their judgment;" (2 Pet.24:4)

"And the angels who did not stay within their own domain, but abandoned their proper dwelling, He keeps under darkness, in eternal chains for judgment on that great day. " (Jude 1:6)

"They sailed to the region of the Gerasenes,[SUP]b[/SUP] which is across the lake from Galilee. 27When Jesus stepped ashore, he was met by a demon-possessed man from the town. For a long time this man had not worn clothes or lived in a house, but had lived in the tombs. 28When he saw Jesus, he cried out and fell at his feet, shouting at the top of his voice, “What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg you, don’t torture me!” 29For Jesus had commanded the impure spirit to come out of the man. Many times it had seized him, and though he was chained hand and foot and kept under guard, he had broken his chains and had been driven by the demon into solitary places.
30Jesus asked him, “What is your name?”
“Legion,” he replied, because many demons had gone into him. 31And they begged Jesus repeatedly not to order them to go into the Abyss.

"When an unclean spirit comes out of a man, it passes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. Then it says, ‘I will return to the house I left.’ 25. On its return, it finds the house swept clean and put in order. 26. Then it goes and brings seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they go in and dwell there. And the final plight of that man is worse than the first.”
 
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This thread is like most all of the others on this site - beyond my level of understanding. If I can't speak intelligently on a topic or at least ask intelligent questions, then I lurk and read but won't post.

Well, except for when I want to troll and antagonize certain members, but that's for my own entertainment.
 
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I was at a crusade around 1999 in birmingham.

I was ushering in the section where the sick were seated. Rude people were taking the seats saved for those with infirmities.
I was told not to challenge anyone only to seat them and help them physically.

It was tedious,getting them situated,and when the service started I was ready to dive in,get blessed and get a fresh dose of heaven.

After about 15 min. into the worship You could feel the power of God descend upon us. So awesome ,so refreshing.

Guess what? I began to hear demons cry out,scream,wail,etc from the section with the sick that made the hair stand up on the back of my neck.

It did not move the Holy Spirit. I felt his presence intensified even more so.....Awesome!
 
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Stuff like this we need to know, or else we will pass it off as an disturbance of the brain. When I was young, I had an experience with an dark shadow. It attacked me at night. It picked me up and pinned me to the ceiling; i couldn't holler for help because it had it hands covering my face. And so I started fighting it back with all my might, and then it tossed me onto the couch. And I look back at where it has grabbed me and saw nothing. This was before the internet; and so years later, I just went on the internet to see if anyone had this type of experience because I remembered a T.V. show that someone had mentioned about their experience about it on a show. And so I have found a lot of information that people had experienced some what the same experiences that I had about a dark shadowy figure that has attacked them and they referred it as the shadow people. I started to relate this being that was in the book of Genesis when Jacob had a fight with a dark entity until the morning. Jacob was wrestling his faith with God at the time; at time he had strong faith and then his faith has weakened. This was going on back and forth and which that is wrestling with God and man. And at the time of my experience, I was wrestling with God as well, straddling the fence. But at the time, I did not believed in actual spirits in a physical form, even after that episode that I had; I had put it off as something that I had ate or inhaled while I were asleep, like gas fumes or something in that sort of nature.


A shadow person (also known as a shadow figure, shadow being or black mass) is the perception of a patch of shadow as a living, humanoid figure, particularly as interpreted by believers in the paranormal or supernatural as the presence of a spirit or other entity.[SUP][1][/SUP]Many methamphetamine addicts report hallucinations of "shadow people", as a result of sleep deprivation. A number of religions, legends, and belief systems describe shadowy spiritual beings or supernatural entities such as shades of the underworld, and various shadowy creatures have long been a staple of folklore and ghost stories.The Coast to Coast AM late night radio talk show helped popularize modern beliefs in shadow people.[SUP][2][/SUP] The first time the topic of shadow people was discussed at length on the show was April 12, 2001 when host Art Bell interviewed Native American elder Thunder Strikes, who is also known as Harley "SwiftDeer" Reagan. During the show, listeners were encouraged to submit drawings of shadow people that they had seen and a large number of these drawings were immediately shared publicly on the website.[SUP][3][/SUP] In October that year, Heidi Hollis published her first book on the topic of shadow people,[SUP][4][/SUP] and later became a regular guest on Coast to Coast.[SUP][5][/SUP] Hollis describes shadow people as dark silhouettes with human shapes and profiles that flicker in and out of peripheral vision, and claims that people have reported the figures attempting to "jump on their chest and choke them".[SUP][6][/SUP] She believes the figures to be negative, alien beings that can be repelled by various means, including invoking "the Name of Jesus".[SUP][7][/SUP]
Although participants in online discussion forums devoted to paranormal and supernatural topics describe them as menacing, other believers and paranormal authors do not agree whether shadow people are either evil, helpful, or neutral, and some even speculate that shadow people may be the extra-dimensional inhabitants of another universe.[SUP][2][/SUP][SUP][8][/SUP]Some paranormal investigators and authors such as Chad Stambaugh claim to have recorded images of shadow people on video.[SUP][9][/SUP]
Shadow people feature in two episodes of ITV paranormal documentary series Extreme Ghost Stories, where they are described as "black masses".[SUP][10] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_person[/SUP]
 

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Came across this article on demons. Some may agree to it. Some may not. I did find it interesting. Anyone have thoughts on this? Please give scriptural references.
https://www.christiancourier.com/articles/1576-what-do-you-know-about-demons

What Do You Know About Demons?

by Wayne Jackson
The study of “demons” is a fascinating yet challenging topic in biblical literature. There is much to be learned from a survey of this theme.
Admittedly, however, there is some mystery as well. It is not that the sacred text cannot be understood; that is plain enough. The puzzlement lies in the fact that we are not witnesses to the phenomena that the original saints were. Demon possessions during the time of Christ’s public ministry, and subsequently in the first century to a lesser degree, have not been extended in the ages since that time.
Unfortunately, not all Bible students understand this reality. Recently a misguided brother in Christ has attempted to argue the case that demon possession is a modern day reality (Dan R. Owen, “The Powers That Be,” Gospel Advocate, December, 2014. 20-22). In view of this, we offer the following observations.
Hi Elizabeth, nice to see you are still around. Long article, I can't comment on all of it, atm, nor can I promise to do so. However, I can give my opinion of this first paragraph.

1) Some of us may not experience Phenomena of demon possession, but that doesn't mean it's not happening. Satan is probably going to concentrate his efforts on third world countries or countries that are lacking of spiritual truth. Has this man who wrote this article been all over the world?

2) Satan has probably changed his tactics a little because a demon possessed person could probably be spotted easily, and if its among Christians of Strong faith, they are easily disposed of. However, Satan probably has more effectiveness in subtle attacks of persuasion where his direct influences go unnoticed.

Just my two cents so far. God bless and good to see yah.
 

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In the bible you divide between evil spirits, unclean spirits and demons.
Demons/fallen angels are the demons that fell with Lucifer that want to stop you from becoming a child of God and if they dont succeed in that, to stop you from effectively serving him
unclean spirits are like nephilims, and take care of the things like dirty speech, fornication and things that simply are unclean
evil spirits are those that torment (likewise demons) i understand it to just be about causing pain and misery bodily and in all ways because they like it.

If you have any more questions pm me . God bless
 
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Demons aren't even worth our time thinking about!
Sorry
That's all I know.
 

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This is a Load of Manure. You want to know if demons are real or not? Go find yourself someone with the gift of exorcism and who is experienced and go help them. Yes, strong Christians can help them. No, the Catholic Church does NOT have exclusive rights to exorcism. This is a gift given freely from God to those chosen to do his work or, in extreme cases, he grants it to individuals in a bad situation.

When you witness their eyes turning completely black( NO white whatsoever ) and the person speaking in the black demonic speech, you will have no doubts whatsoever. People who write baloney like this have never tried to see the spiritual side of problems in humans. This is clinical at best and a denial of the spiritual world around us. The truth is they are a bunch of drug dealers trying to solve everything with the drugs. True there are those who have genuine mental disorders but just as true there are those who are demonically persecuted.
Acts 16:18

Tell these jokers to go play with a ouiga board or play with black magic or investigate the paranormal and to their detriment they will find out very quickly that demons are very real.
 
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Gift of exorcism? Must've missed that one in the bible.
 
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Flee fornication. Every sin that a man does is outside the body; but he that commits fornication
sins against his own body (1 Cor. 6:18). When this sin by is committed by Believers, their is a physical union of man / woman with devils (this includes pornography).
 
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MarcR

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How can you be on guard if you don't know about them?
By reading Scripture we come to know about them. By reading articles we open ourselves to more intimate knowledge of them.

IMO a believer cannot be demon possessed but can be demon oppressed. That is probably best avoided if possible.